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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:07:29 AM EDT
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There already are. M1A's as well.
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:08:06 AM EDT
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As long as they are not NFA (MG or SBR), there's no 'legal' reason they wouldn't... Contractual obligations are a different story...
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:10:14 AM EDT
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With auto parts taken out...I don't see why not.
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:11:53 AM EDT
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I don't see it happening.
The basic AR platform will last forever. Figure most cops have chrome lined bores, and will never shoot 20k rounds to have to switch it out. If they do want to improve to a different length or stock or sights, 5 minutes work by the armorer. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:13:14 AM EDT
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With auto parts taken out...I don't see why not. once a machine gun always a machine gun as I understand it |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:13:24 AM EDT
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With auto parts taken out...I don't see why not. Once a "machine gun", ALWAYS a "machine gun". The one exception would be a registered sear/lightning link that is the serial numbered "happy part". |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:13:36 AM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"?  |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:14:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: With auto parts taken out...I don't see why not. Once a "machine gun", ALWAYS a "machine gun". The one exception would be a registered sear/lightning link that is the serial numbered "happy part". Well alrighty then  |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't see it happening. The basic AR platform will last forever. Figure most cops have chrome lined bores, and will never shoot 20k rounds to have to switch it out. If they do want to improve to a different length or stock or sights, 5 minutes work by the armorer. Yes with the amount that most cops shoot they probably would literally last forever, but its like all the MP5 that cops had, they go out of style, they get grant money to buy new equipment and they get a new fancy SCAR or ACR or decide to switch back and forth between calibers and such, they dont keep them to their entire useful lifespan. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:19:45 AM EDT
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With auto parts taken out...I don't see why not. What? 
Once a "machine gun" always a "machine gun." You can't convert a FA weapon to a semi and have it drop off the NFA registry. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:20:36 AM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? Colt sold these to everyone, not just cops. The idea was to prevent machining for a RDIAS. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:21:01 AM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? You sure that wasn't a steel sear block Colt put in for a few years from the factory? Even if you cut it out, you still couldn't install happy parts and the receiver was only drilled on one side, the left side was blind. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:23:06 AM EDT
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SOG as well as a few others are currently selling police "trade-in" ARs...some of them even came from America's Hat! |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:24:39 AM EDT
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Probably.
Some departments use semi auto ARs anyway so no NFA crap. It won't be prevalent for a long time, though. Even if the military adopted the Scar 16 or Scar 17 tomorrow, it would be many years before law enforcement started surplusing out perfectly good ARs. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:28:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? You sure that wasn't a steel sear block Colt put in for a few years from the factory? Even if you cut it out, you still couldn't install happy parts and the receiver was only drilled on one side, the left side was blind. That's entirely possible. I'd never seen one before. Thanks to you and the guy above you for relaying this bit of info. To me, it was obvious the intent was to make it impossible to convert the gun into a machine gun, but it seems pointless to install one if the receiver hadn't already been drilled for an auto sear. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:32:32 AM EDT
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There was a bunch of Canadian Police Colt 6520s trade ins that hit the market not too long ago.
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Posted: 7/9/2010 10:34:58 AM EDT
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SOG as well as a few others are currently selling police "trade-in" ARs...some of them even came from America's Hat!
I think it'd be neat to get one of those lowers with the maple leaf on them |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 11:51:38 AM EDT
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Of course. I'd bet most ARs used by cops in the US are semiauto, not select fire.
I have a Colt 6721 that was a police trade-in. Bought it right after the AWB sunset in 2004. The same shop regular has police trade-ins. He had a whole rack full of 6520s earlier this year. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 12:13:06 PM EDT
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yep as said already are
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Posted: 7/9/2010 1:53:39 PM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? Colt sold these to everyone, not just cops. The idea was to prevent machining for a RDIAS. That's full of fail and AIDS. And yet the worship of Colt continues.
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Posted: 7/9/2010 1:59:23 PM EDT
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if you look around, occasionally you'll see police trade in Colt SP1s
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:02:42 PM EDT
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if you look around, occasionally you'll see police trade in Colt SP1s And M16A1s as well. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:05:01 PM EDT
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if you look around, occasionally you'll see police trade in Colt SP1s And M16A1s as well. and Colt Model 601s and 614s (original AR-15s that had the green furniture and triangular charging handle and export/LE version of the USAF M16-know as Model 604) |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:06:41 PM EDT
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Already out there. Saw a bunch A2 bushmaster carbines at the last gun show.
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:09:46 PM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? You sure that wasn't a steel sear block Colt put in for a few years from the factory? Even if you cut it out, you still couldn't install happy parts and the receiver was only drilled on one side, the left side was blind. That's entirely possible. I'd never seen one before. Thanks to you and the guy above you for relaying this bit of info. To me, it was obvious the intent was to make it impossible to convert the gun into a machine gun, but it seems pointless to install one if the receiver hadn't already been drilled for an auto sear. Colt did that for a few years. Put a block in so you couldn't use a DIAS. |
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:12:54 PM EDT
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if you look around, occasionally you'll see police trade in Colt SP1s And M16A1s as well. and Colt Model 601s and 614s (original AR-15s that had the green furniture and triangular charging handle and export/LE version of the USAF M16-know as Model 604) You would be hard pressed to find a police trade-in 601 that is still wearing the original green furniture. I doubt there are any depts that actually kept them in that configuration. Its a shame to think of how many 1,000s of dollars worth of green furniture has been thrown in dumpsters and replaced with A2 furniture 
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Posted: 7/9/2010 2:25:19 PM EDT
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Mine is an ArmaLIte M4C - po-po trade in .
It is actually engraved on the magwell, "For Gov't or Law Enforement Use Only". Tons of rack wear/trunk wear (abuse) - pristine on the inside, like new. It was a steeal for $500. 
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Posted: 7/20/2010 5:56:44 AM EDT
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I don't think the A1's that the gov't gave agencies will ever become available to the public.
The various patrol rifles that agencies have been buying will be carried for years, if not decades, before they are sold off. In states where we still have bans, i don't think they'll be sold to the public. |
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Posted: 7/20/2010 6:07:45 AM EDT
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This brings up a question I have about a rifle a cop showed me a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly, it was his issue rifle and he was allowed to purchase it from the department when he retired. I looked in the lower receiver (it was a Colt rifle) and there was a steel insert inside, right where you'd put an auto sear if it was an M16 receiver, but the auto sear pin hole was a lot bigger. If you took out the steel insert, you couldn't mount an auto sear because it would rattle around in the big hole. My guess is it was originally an M16 receiver that had been converted to semi only by having the auto sear hole widened and the steel insert installed, and then sold to the department. But I thought the rule was "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"? You sure that wasn't a steel sear block Colt put in for a few years from the factory? Even if you cut it out, you still couldn't install happy parts and the receiver was only drilled on one side, the left side was blind. That's entirely possible. I'd never seen one before. Thanks to you and the guy above you for relaying this bit of info. To me, it was obvious the intent was to make it impossible to convert the gun into a machine gun, but it seems pointless to install one if the receiver hadn't already been drilled for an auto sear. Colt did that for a few years. Put a block in so you couldn't use a DIAS. during the ban my preban colt had one. that and a half moon carrier... 
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