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Posted: 4/16/2006 8:29:47 AM EDT
many people say that SKS and AK stocks are too short for them.

why are they so short?  i could understand if it was a chinese rifle, but i don't consider russians/eastern europeans to be shorter than average.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:31:08 AM EDT
Poor diet so they are shorter?

They might depend more on women to fight than the west?

The designer was short?
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:32:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
many people say that SKS and AK stocks are too short for them.

why are they so short?  i could understand if it was a chinese rifle, but i don't consider russians/eastern europeans to be shorter than average.



My Dad has a Norinco SKS. I've mentioned to him several times that the stock is shorter than european SKSs.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:32:38 AM EDT
suit up for a russian winter and that stock will be just fine
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:34:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
suit up for a russian winter and that stock will be just fine



Yup.

Also for close quarters use.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:36:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
many people say that SKS and AK stocks are too short for them.why are they so short?  i could understand if it was a chinese rifle, but i don't consider russians/eastern europeans to be shorter than average.



The key phrase really should be, "shorter than they prefer, but still very shootable."    I'm 6'3" and shoot AKs and SKS's with out a problem.   A smaller weapon is easier to handle.............M4?
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:36:38 AM EDT
Thick winter uniforms.  The Russian winter can be a cold MF'ker (-40° or worse).
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:41:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
suit up for a russian winter and that stock will be just fine



+1

I'm tall but I like the LOP on comblock guns.  I can shoulder it quickly and it just feels right.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:43:01 AM EDT
Because godless commie bastards are also short sons of bitches. 'nuff said.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 8:57:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
many people say that SKS and AK stocks are too short for them.



Yet many of the same people put "entry" stocks or the Sully stock on their ARs...
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:10:59 AM EDT
More compact. It's not a hunting rifle, its an assualt rifle.

I like the shorter buttstock and I am 6'1" with long arms.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:13:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:
Because godless commie bastards are also short sons of bitches. 'nuff said.



+1
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:16:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:18:14 AM EDT
Protein.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:31:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2006 9:32:27 AM EDT by FMD]

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Because most americans don't understand how to obtain a proper cheek weld.



+1

...nor are the combloc recruits taught to shoot NRA Highpower style.  Sadly, standard stocks here in the US are set up for just that...

I like the short LOP on the AK and SKS, and have a Sully stock on my M4gery.  Damn near everyone I know who shoots an AR with an M4 colapsible stock runs it set on position 1 (or MagpulM93 on detent #2) for a consistant cheekweld/nose to CH sight picture.

Guess what that LOP matches up to?
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:35:37 AM EDT
They're made for "children-soldiers" and/or "A well regulated midget militia."

B_S
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 9:39:34 AM EDT
Colder climates mandates shorter weapons with shorter length of pull.  Remember that most of the Combloc weapons were designed by the Russians and that they wear padded clothes not from being fashion conscious but because of the climate they must live and fight in.  We all can't be in sunny Arizona or Northern Africa.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:00:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Because most americans don't understand how to obtain a proper cheek weld.




Please explain....'cuase I must be one of 'em.



Thank You,  
Travis
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:01:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:03:29 AM EDT
I'm 6' 4", very long arms, I have no trouble with an AK stock.

Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:05:35 AM EDT
"They teach these men to drop fire on people but they can't write "fuck" on their airplane."  Not the exact quote, but close enough.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:11:37 AM EDT
I allways thought the longer the sight picture the better?

I dont like longer stocks because of comfort, but so I can obtain a longer sight picture.


Sorry for the hi-jack, I just dont understand.

Travis
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:13:22 AM EDT
I have a Trijicon reflex on mine.

(The front sight isn't straight on my WASR-10.)

Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:16:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:
"They teach these men to drop fire on people but they can't write "fuck" on their airplane."  Not the exact quote, but close enough.





methinks you meant to post in this thread Watching Apocalypse Now on Bravo,...  
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:25:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2006 10:26:30 AM EDT by HeavyMetal]
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:27:26 AM EDT
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I allways thought the longer the sight picture the better?

I dont like longer stocks because of comfort, but so I can obtain a longer sight picture.


Sorry for the hi-jack, I just dont understand.

Travis
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you really should go to some sort of combat shooting school before you post your ignorance

Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:30:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Because most americans don't understand how to obtain a proper cheek weld.



You've obviously never used a Kobra sight or other Communist optics on an AK!

"Cheekweld? What's that, komrad?"
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:33:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:35:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Blue_Suiter:
They're made for "children-soldiers" and/or "A well regulated midget militia."

B_S





these are my boy brigades
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:35:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
suit up for a russian winter and that stock will be just fine



EXACTLY!!!!
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 10:58:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:

Originally Posted By TravisJ1:
I allways thought the longer the sight picture the better?

I dont like longer stocks because of comfort, but so I can obtain a longer sight picture.


Sorry for the hi-jack, I just dont understand.

Travis



The longer the sight radius, the better as in the distance between the front and rear sights.  Stock length of pull does not alter the sight radius.




Oh, ok.  I did not know that.


Travis
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 11:05:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By stormwalker:
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I allways thought the longer the sight picture the better?

I dont like longer stocks because of comfort, but so I can obtain a longer sight picture.


Sorry for the hi-jack, I just dont understand.

Travis
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you really should go to some sort of combat shooting school before you post your ignorance


You are correct Sir, I am ignorant.  What part of I just dont understand.
made you think I wasnt ignorant?

I was asking a question, not saying I am an expert and I know all.

Jezz, how am I supposed to learn if you cant give good advice?  BTW  I dont have the means for a combat course.


Thank you HeavyMetal, you have been helpfull.


Travis (the ignorant)




Link Posted: 4/16/2006 11:08:17 AM EDT
dont worry about it, stormwalker was just being a and not adding anything useful to the discussion.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 11:20:26 AM EDT
They fit me fine
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 11:20:35 AM EDT
My norinco (chinese) SKS does seem to have a short stock, but then again, I have never handled any other brand of SKS. It's not short enough that im getting hit in the face from the dust cover whenever I shoot, but short enough I notice.
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 12:01:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
dont worry about it, stormwalker was just being a and not adding anything useful to the discussion.





I figured as much.


No harm done.

Travis
Link Posted: 4/16/2006 12:04:55 PM EDT
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