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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:08:52 AM EDT
what calibre is best for a gun? it should be legal in new york, and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15?

Thanks!

p.s. i already have one but am looking forward to a different one.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Move along folks...nothing to see here...nothing to see.[:K]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:10 AM EDT
[#2]
WHAT??????????? [>:/]

You want to silence a 12guage AR??? [>:/]

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:16:01 AM EDT
[#3]
You know, in Vietnam the SEALs used special silenced shotgun ammo.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:17:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Believe your mom would be happier if you had one of these:

[img]www.supersoaker.com/soakertech/hires/product_images/hidef_6000full.jpg[/img]

Mike
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Well, the ar15 is .223 caliber.  

I would be willing to bet that silencers (aka suppressors) are illegal in NY -- at a minimum you have to get a special ATF license and pay a multi-hundred dollar fee to own one.

I've never heard of a silencer for a shotgun but apparently DonS has.

- CD
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
what calibre is best for a gun? it should be legal in new york, and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15?

Thanks!

p.s. i already have one but am looking forward to a different one.
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Michaelm, be aware that you are bran new to this board, and you are asking an illegal question (silencer, legal in new york, etc).  You will be recognized as a troll [:K]asking such questions. It souds like your trying to [b]bait[/b] people into giving you illegal advise.  
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
[#7]
20mm
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Michael,

Please post again when sober, or when your meds kick in.

Best!

[:D]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:39 AM EDT
[#9]
I've heard that you can put your hand over the end of the shotgun barrel and this will have a silencing effect.  However, this will only work twice.............
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:57 AM EDT
[#10]
How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots?
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:24:17 AM EDT
[#11]
sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:25:51 AM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:27 AM EDT
[#13]
Go to a local gun store and buy a shotgun.  Use the in the ear plugs, and muffs and it will suppress the noise.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
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Ok then, what exactly do you want this gun to do?  Home defence?  Target shooting?  Your initial questions were all over the place.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:29:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
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Okay, but what exactly is it that you want to know??  And are you under 21 by chance??

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:38:00 AM EDT
[#16]
How about a nice, shiny Bryco in .25? Gotta hold her sideways when shooting, of course, to make the right impression on da bro's...
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:42:24 AM EDT
[#17]
michaelm,
What a hell of a 1st post!
[:k]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:53:46 AM EDT
[#18]
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p.s. [blue]i already have one[/blue] but am looking forward to a different one.
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Tell us what you already have.  We really must know what type...handgun, rifle, shotgun, potato gun, whatever?

Inquiring minds want this information...please
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:56:21 AM EDT
[#19]
Are you a sociology professor?

ARH
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:57:26 AM EDT
[#20]
WELL I FEEL ALITTLE BETTER [KILL]
 NO NO NO PHYSICS [X]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:02:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:18:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:30:19 AM EDT
[#23]
[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b]

Cool!  I want a .9mm AR!

That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:35:21 AM EDT
[#24]
Michael: You might want to clean up your question and put it in the General Firearm Forum.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:45:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b]

Cool!  I want a .9mm AR!

That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier.

They also have 7.62x36, .22.  I've seen 40 cal and of course the .50 ae [:D]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:47:56 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b]

Cool!  I want a .9mm AR!

That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier.

[:D]
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QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters.  .9mm vs. 9mm
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:49:15 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots?
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LOL [:D]

Michaelm,
Go online and go a search for the Colt M-41A Pulse Rifle. Sounds like that is what your looking for.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 11:16:10 AM EDT
[#28]
If the silencing part is important, just get any .22lr rifle with a barrel > 24" and shoot CBs.  That's as good as you can get in NY i think.

-Nuke
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 4:33:31 PM EDT
[#29]
You guys are just brutal!!
LMAO [:)]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 4:39:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b]

Cool!  I want a .9mm AR!

That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier.

[:D]
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QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters.  .9mm vs. 9mm
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oops, ok. I'll shup now.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 7:15:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 7:35:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Why isn't there an ar15 upper in 12 gauge.  Anybody ever seen one.  Sounds like an idea who's time has come.  I have dibs on the patent.

Question, Is it legal to construct one using common houshold objects, ie, water pipe?

remember, I'm talking upper only, with no silencer. Even I know thats illegal as hell
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:38:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:40:13 AM EDT
[#34]
What do you need the silencer for?
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:43:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
thanks all for the help, i was able to get uzi and mac-11 with silencer
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Really now? What area of NY are you located?
I'd like to see these for myself...
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:53:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:13:20 AM EDT
[#37]
michaelm, you may want to do a little bit of reading here:[url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/statelaws/newyork.pdf[/url]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:29:57 AM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:44 AM EDT
[#39]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:59 AM EDT
[#40]
it's not really a silencer
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:34:16 AM EDT
[#41]
yeah, i'm going to delete those posts
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:17 AM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:49 AM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:38:07 AM EDT
[#44]
MichaelM, you make the baby jesus cry.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:41:57 AM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 6:43:00 AM EDT
[#46]
And 10mm, .45acp and various other 'wildcat' calibers.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:01:47 AM EDT
[#47]
C'mon guys give the new guy a break.

Don't bother with expensive and government tracked silencers. I get the feeling you are in the home workshop/disposable market.

Generally a dixie cup placed over the barrel will disappate a 12ga discharge to under 32db. But I personally don't like this method as it blocks the sights.

But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression.

Don't get caught and don't bring any potential witnesses who can turn on you later.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:08:40 AM EDT
[#48]
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But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you [red]just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump[/red]. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But [red]you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression.[/red]

Don't get caught and [red]don't bring any potential witnesses[/red] who can turn on you later.
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Diabolical.

Pure evil.

[devil]




[i]don't you even believe in karma?[;)][/i]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:24:13 AM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:33:34 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
 Your best bet would be to let Waverunner come see what you have and he can set you straight. [:D]
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This has bad-news written all over it, leave me out of it. Properly dispose of your "not really a silencer" and [b]PAY ATTENTION[/b] to all the [red]ridiculous[/red] laws that you should follow in your home state of New York. Or else your ass will end up in some federal prison playing "grab your ankles".
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