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Posted: 3/16/2011 5:24:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 5:26:52 PM EST by Dieter122]
picked some guns up as part of a lot today...

what are the value of them?

i started looking prices up online, but some are rather unique and could only find VERY limited info on.

Most are repro black powder, matchlock, etc.

I am more into new/modern guns, but I took the oddballs in the lot purchase. Few of my friends are into reenactments and older curio guns.

Figured you guys would have the best idea on this odd lot.


#1


#2 -AR7, painted with a modified and original stock, NO magazine


#3


#4



#5 Buggy rifle



#6


#7 Japanese blank firing gun. ALL metal construction



Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:27:07 PM EST
Ya want a magazine for the AR7?
I have one sitting on my bookcase.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:29:46 PM EST
I got excited about #7 until I read the title.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:31:13 PM EST
Is #7 a blank converted original?
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:33:06 PM EST
# 3 looks like an old Stevens 12ga shotgun. My dad has one that looks just like it, and a .410 to match it. They were my grandfathers and he bought them new in the 30s or 40s I think. They were inexpensive guns for the day, not sure how much they are worth today. To us, they are priceless.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:35:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 5:36:27 PM EST by Lumpy03]
Originally Posted By Jeffreysox:
Is #7 a blank converted original?


"potmetal"... and uses "plug fire caps" (PFC'S)

Marushin of Maruzen of Japan? ..airsoft companies

'nuff said.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:38:15 PM EST
I would say the entire lot is worth about $200-300. Used black powder reproductions don't have much market. The AR-7 appears to be in poor condition and was junk to begin with.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:44:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 5:48:21 PM EST by ED_P]
Does #3 say anything on the side?

I have an old shotgun from a farmhouse in Maine that looks similiar. Says "EXCEL" on the side, and was made in the early 1900's. It was made by Iver Johnson in Fitchburg, Ma.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:45:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
I would say the entire lot is worth about $200-300. Used black powder reproductions don't have much market. The AR-7 appears to be in poor condition and was junk to begin with.


Uhh, the Henry is worth about $500 by itself if it is an actual rifle and not a fake, non firing demonstrator.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:46:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By scarecrow31:
# 3 looks like an old Stevens 12ga shotgun. My dad has one that looks just like it, and a .410 to match it. They were my grandfathers and he bought them new in the 30s or 40s I think. They were inexpensive guns for the day, not sure how much they are worth today. To us, they are priceless.


that looks like my first 20 gauge. was a "new england firearm" if i recall correctly. good little shotgun.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 5:51:20 PM EST
The AR-7 is worth at least $100, prolly more if its an original Armalite. Charter/Survival/Henry have made em also though.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:01:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By ED_P:
Does #3 say anything on the side?

I have an old shotgun from a farmhouse in Maine that looks similiar. Says "EXCEL" on the side, and was made in the early 1900's. It was made by Iver Johnson in Fitchburg, Ma.


its a Stevens.

Apparenlty there are some that have "excel" on the side from what ive found thus far.

Originally Posted By Jeffreysox:
Is #7 a blank converted original?


all metal parts, but made strictly as a blank gun. Not a conversion or anything

Originally Posted By Milo5:
Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
I would say the entire lot is worth about $200-300. Used black powder reproductions don't have much market. The AR-7 appears to be in poor condition and was junk to begin with.


Uhh, the Henry is worth about $500 by itself if it is an actual rifle and not a fake, non firing demonstrator.


its def a real rifle. I have 2 boxes of ammo. Cartridges, bullets, powder, the works

Originally Posted By NWRed:
The AR-7 is worth at least $100, prolly more if its an original Armalite. Charter/Survival/Henry have made em also though.


its a Charter Arms. Figured around $100 yea. Its been rattle canned so, kinda hurts the value a bit.


Originally Posted By Lumpy03:
Originally Posted By Jeffreysox:
Is #7 a blank converted original?


"potmetal"... and uses "plug fire caps" (PFC'S)

Marushin of Maruzen of Japan? ..airsoft companies

'nuff said.



i saw two online. One was around $500, another was like $975. Expensive pot metal guns. Apparently these are highly sought after by reenactors, again...from what ive read.

Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:07:53 PM EST
No idea what it's worth, but that under-hammer BP is a neat little reproduction.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:14:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By winxlite:
No idea what it's worth, but that under-hammer BP is a neat little reproduction.


yeah, ive never seen something like it before. Interesting piece def
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:45:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 7:02:26 PM EST by jrinfoley]

Originally Posted By winxlite:
No idea what it's worth, but that under-hammer BP is a neat little reproduction.

I have the same rifle in .36 caliber with a much longer barrel and aperture sights.

ETA; One thing kind of cool is that the trigger guard also serves as the hammer spring! Mine is very accurate with a tightly patched round ball. I bought mine back in the day before the inline modern muzzle loaders, and it was banned from some ML shoots due to its advantage over the side locks.
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:50:50 PM EST
Is the Henry an original rim fire or a center fire reproduction?
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:51:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 6:55:28 PM EST by AeroE]
Link Posted: 3/16/2011 6:56:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/16/2011 6:56:53 PM EST by Dieter122]
Originally Posted By AeroE:
The Hopkins & Allen underhammer is worth a hundred or so if the bore and the rest of the barrel (around the nipple) is in good condition.

What make is the Henry? On the off chance it's an original, it's worth a boat load. Navy Arms import, not so much, but should be easy to move and it's a decent gun if it hasn't been abused.

Guns are light years easier to figure out if all the information available is given right up front. The box of ammo for the Henry is a good start.



Henry is a Navy Arms import yes. Repro

ive got a few boxes of ammo for all the guns. Some pretty big rounds ive found.

Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Is the Henry an original rim fire or a center fire reproduction?


repro






Link Posted: 3/16/2011 7:02:34 PM EST
IM Sent for some details.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 5:09:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
I would say the entire lot is worth about $200-300. Used black powder reproductions don't have much market. The AR-7 appears to be in poor condition and was junk to begin with.



Wrong. #6 is a repo 1863 Springfield musket. Civil War reenactors are always looking for used muskets-new ones are in the $600 range now. I'm sure you could get $2-300 for it. try Gunbroker. The short one will not be as easy to sell-almost every reenacting group will not allow the use of these short "two-band" muskets.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:11:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By jeep44:
Originally Posted By eddiein1984:
I would say the entire lot is worth about $200-300. Used black powder reproductions don't have much market. The AR-7 appears to be in poor condition and was junk to begin with.



Wrong. #6 is a repo 1863 Springfield musket. Civil War reenactors are always looking for used muskets-new ones are in the $600 range now. I'm sure you could get $2-300 for it. try Gunbroker. The short one will not be as easy to sell-almost every reenacting group will not allow the use of these short "two-band" muskets.


im dragging these guns to the local gun show this weekend. Ive got two tables available to use.

Lot of the local people are into the older stuff, so it should turn out well for me.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:15:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:48:36 AM EST
man you musta shit when you first saw number 7..... unless I knew prior to looking at it that it was a blank firing replica, I would have thought that I stumbled upon an mp40 and promptly given the widow 150 bucks for it and stashed it in the basement
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:00:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 7:00:35 AM EST by Dieter122]
Originally Posted By AeroE:
About where is "local"?



Saratoga NY

Originally Posted By xm177e2687:
man you musta shit when you first saw number 7..... unless I knew prior to looking at it that it was a blank firing replica, I would have thought that I stumbled upon an mp40 and promptly given the widow 150 bucks for it and stashed it in the basement


when i found the preban HK91 in a corner closet, thats when i shit myself a bit
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:50:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 8:03:21 AM EST by Villafuego]
Throw the PFC MP-40 on Gunbroker......you'd be pleasantly surprised how much you get out of it. There are PFC gun "collectors" that pay good money for the earlier guns........I'd say 5-700........maybe more


Note to self: Never hire "eddiein1984" to appraise my firearms..........
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