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Posted: 4/26/2014 5:30:08 PM EDT

This should be interesting....

Let's not fool ourselves, though. Vinyl is great, but the idea that its sound quality is superior to that of uncompressed digital recordings is preposterous. They sound different, and that's exactly the point.

http://www.vox.com/2014/4/19/5626058/vinyls-great-but-its-not-better-than-cds

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:31:00 PM EDT

[#1]

bah why do you need a freaking cd?

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:31:17 PM EDT

[#2]

CD's can sound better if the guy who remixed it did not screw it up.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:31:52 PM EDT

[#3]

what is physical media?

been mp3 only since 2000 (last time i bought a cd)

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:32:47 PM EDT

[#4]

All I remember about the vinyl era was that you had to have a "diamond stylus" to be one of the cool kids

Oh, and a decent sized "record collection" would take up about four book shelves.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:33:26 PM EDT

[#5]

When played in comparison in a very good audio system, one capable of rendering dimensionality to the soundstage, the analog vinyl version of the same recording/mix will always sound more 3 dimensional.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:35:08 PM EDT

[#6]

Back in the late 60s my brother had an under the dash record player that played 45s, It skipped a lot !

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:37:32 PM EDT

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Ya think?

8 track tapes were fun too. Sometimes they couldn't fit an entire song into a single track, so there would be a track change in the middle of the song.

Like this:

"Smooooooke on the water! And fire in the sky!" <pause> CA-CHUNK! </pause> "Smoooooke on the water!"

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:39:58 PM EDT

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I play vinyl in the reloading room. My setup is an Adcom amp and pre amp, Thorens turntable, Bozak speakers and a Dennon receiver. The sound is superb.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:40:17 PM EDT

[#9]

Vinyl is best through the right system.

CD's win for ease of use and storage. Sound quality is not bad either but some are better than others.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:40:43 PM EDT

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I like to buy vinyl, especially from Amazon because it usually comes with Autorip. That way I get physical media, a copy in the Amazon cloud player for my phone/computer and (usually) a download card that I can hand off to a friend.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:42:57 PM EDT

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I grew up with hard disk 78's, then 45's, and 33.3 LP's - then eight track, cassette, and finally CD's.
Downloaded digital media always did and always will suck.

Personally I still have several dozen vinyl albums, several shoe boxes of cassettes, and even a bunch of eight track cassettes.

Occasionally I'll pull out my turn table and listen to vinyl but honestly, I prefer the actual real reproduced recorded sound on CD's, not the botched up sound of vinyl.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:43:44 PM EDT

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I play vinyl in the reloading room. My setup is an Adcom amp and pre amp, Thorens turntable, Bozak speakers and a Dennon receiver. The sound is superb.

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I play vinyl in my man cave / reloading room also.

But the first time I listened to a CD with headphones on I was blown away with the clarity.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:50:00 PM EDT

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Ya think?

8 track tapes were fun too. Sometimes they couldn't fit an entire song into a single track, so there would be a track change in the middle of the song.

Like this:

"Smooooooke on the water! And fire in the sky!" <pause> CA-CHUNK! </pause> "Smoooooke on the water!"

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Back in the late 60s my brother had an under the dash record player that played 45s, It skipped a lot !

Ya think?

8 track tapes were fun too. Sometimes they couldn't fit an entire song into a single track, so there would be a track change in the middle of the song.

Like this:

"Smooooooke on the water! And fire in the sky!" <pause> CA-CHUNK! </pause> "Smoooooke on the water!"

And then they'd get eaten !

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:51:19 PM EDT

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When played in comparison in a very good audio system, one capable of rendering dimensionality to the soundstage, the analog vinyl version of the same recording/mix will always sound more 3 dimensional.

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More 3 dimensional, eh?

ETA: Is there some way to measure dimensionality in music?

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:51:50 PM EDT

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I play vinyl in my man cave / reloading room also.

But the first time I listened to a CD with headphones on I was blown away with the clarity.

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I play vinyl in the reloading room. My setup is an Adcom amp and pre amp, Thorens turntable, Bozak speakers and a Dennon receiver. The sound is superb.

<a href="http://s1239.photobucket.com/user/apemanwithferaldog/media/0119141852a_zps01db8209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff510/apemanwithferaldog/0119141852a_zps01db8209.jpg</a>

I play vinyl in my man cave / reloading room also.

But the first time I listened to a CD with headphones on I was blown away with the clarity.

When I was a kid I had to listen to music with headphones because my dad was a cop that worked rotating shifts. When he was on 3rds there was a no noise policy in the house. I got so sick of having them on my head I dont think I could wear them now without having a flashback and freaking out.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:56:00 PM EDT

[#16]

CDs all the way, vinyl is a PITA.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:56:19 PM EDT

[#17]

CD audio quality is better. That isn't debatable. I really like the sound of vinyl though.

Posted: 4/26/2014 5:57:00 PM EDT

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I hate to say it, but I'm sorry but that is pure BS.
The pure mechanics of how vinyl is mastered renders your statement inaccurate.
But I am not discounting or ignoring what you like to listen to....

Posted: 4/26/2014 6:02:01 PM EDT

[#19]

I have all the vinyl from our house that I grew up with in the 70's-80's.

Lots of R&B, Blues, and hippy music. I was into the Beatles big time.

Lately I've been buying "new" and used records. Stuff I liked but couldn't afford when I was a pup. Mostly New Wave and Post Punk.

I never had the Joy Division albums as a kid so I bought brand new pressings of them. They are much heavier (weight wise) than any of my old stuff.

Posted: 4/26/2014 6:15:02 PM EDT

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This is true, but most people will never experience that.

I have a fairly high end stereo system (about 15K between the amps and speakers, at retail pricing) but my turntable

is just a Technics unit from the late 80s, which is a better 'table than the "average' consumer would have bought.

The Ortofon cartridge in it is worth more than the turntable cost.

With the right recording under the needle, the room just disappears. You hear a soundstage that sounds bigger

than the confines of the room the system is in.

I've never yet heard a CD pull off that trick.

Posted: 4/26/2014 6:22:11 PM EDT

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This is true, but most people will never experience that.

I have a fairly high end stereo system (about 15K between the amps and speakers, at retail pricing) but my turntable
is just a Technics unit from the late 80s, which is a better 'table than the "average' consumer would have bought.

The Ortofon cartridge in it is worth more than the turntable cost.

With the right recording under the needle, the room just disappears. You hear a soundstage that sounds bigger
than the confines of the room the system is in.

I've never yet heard a CD pull off that trick.

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When played in comparison in a very good audio system, one capable of rendering dimensionality to the soundstage, the analog vinyl version of the same recording/mix will always sound more 3 dimensional.

This is true, but most people will never experience that.

I have a fairly high end stereo system (about 15K between the amps and speakers, at retail pricing) but my turntable
is just a Technics unit from the late 80s, which is a better 'table than the "average' consumer would have bought.

The Ortofon cartridge in it is worth more than the turntable cost.

With the right recording under the needle, the room just disappears. You hear a soundstage that sounds bigger
than the confines of the room the system is in.

I've never yet heard a CD pull off that trick.

I do agree with this statement....

Each format has its charms, and their overall differences in quality are often overwhelmed by differences in the quality of initial recording equipment, in mastering approaches, and in playback setup.
But if you're a vinyl collector, you also shouldn't go around telling your friends how much purer your audio is.
First off, that's generally dickish behavior, but more to the point it's false.
Digital recording just is more accurate.
That's not the only thing worth considering by any means, but it does make the puritanism of some vinyl true believers look rather ridiculous.

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