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Posted: 6/16/2014 11:29:38 AM EDT
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:30:32 AM EDT
Gas guzzler...
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:31:20 AM EDT
FWDs are better.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:31:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership
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V10 engine- fuel economy is expressed in gallons per mile
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:32:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership
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do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:34:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:34:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Solace22:


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.
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Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.

also, your garage /driveway will not be big enough to house it....








FO!
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:35:05 AM EDT
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do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.
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Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.

Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:35:18 AM EDT
Good engine. Coil packs and spark plugs need replacement sometimes. Early models might spit plugs, later models won't. Transmission is the weaker point. Mileage is bad but not like a 454.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:37:36 AM EDT
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Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB
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Originally Posted By Solace22:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.

Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB


I think they are cool looking trucks but I would ask myself, considering the current state of oil, do you really need a v10 even for a good deal?
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:38:09 AM EDT
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and 4WD is better than front wheel drive...


expect 9mpg with the gas model...
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:38:27 AM EDT
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I got around 7-9 mpg city and 11-14 mpg hwy. (2008 F250 V10)
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:41:15 AM EDT
I have a 02 F-250 with the 6.8L V-10. But its only got 40k on it. the mileage isn't as bad as some say, it averages about 13 MPG towing 8000lbs.

Pretty solid engine, but I guess I have no experience with them after 100k.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:44:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By supernoma:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


V10 engine- fuel economy is expressed in gallons per mile


It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:46:41 AM EDT
If you're using it once in a blue moon, the added cost of a diesel doesn't make sense.

Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:51:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BTccw:


It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.
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Originally Posted By supernoma:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


V10 engine- fuel economy is expressed in gallons per mile


It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.


I average around 11-12 city in my 5.4L F150. And it STILL doesn't have half the power it should.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:51:39 AM EDT
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If you're using it once in a blue moon, the added cost of a diesel doesn't make sense.

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Wat? Who said anything about diesel?
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:52:42 AM EDT
The Triton V10's are very nice engines. Powerful and very reliable.

They are NOT like the old big-blocks of the day that chug along. Modern engines like to rev higher to build power. They get a bad rep because people don't understand that a modern engine likes to run at 3500-4000RPM to build power while towing, instead of the 2000-2500RPM of the old engines. Most people don't understand this.

If you are not towing with it...just ignore everything above
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:53:22 AM EDT
With the cost of diesel being cheaper than gas, I'd go with the diesel... hell even if the diesel was more I'd still go that route... gets much better mpg's, much better engine life, much better resale.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:54:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:54:48 AM EDT
You will be able to watch the gas gauge move. You will also find they are super fucking weak on the power output. I wouldn't take a free one, let alone spend money on one. YMMV
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:54:54 AM EDT
I'd at least wait a week or two.

If things play out like it looks like they're gonna in Iraq, the price of gas is gonna go up significantly, which is probably gonna either A. Make you not want the gas-guzzling behemoth; or B: Drive the price of said behemoth down ever further.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:55:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Good engine. Coil packs and spark plugs need replacement sometimes. Early models might spit plugs, later models won't. Transmission is the weaker point. Mileage is bad but not like a 454.
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My old 2001 spit a plug. That was fun being stranded, south of Vegas, in June, while pulling a trailer.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:55:51 AM EDT
If you're getting an Excursion, get the diesel.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:57:50 AM EDT
I know at least two people towing 7-9k enclosed race trailers with them. They are a big box F250, so lots of stuff interchanges. The 2v V10 is a good motor, and I have the 3v version in my motorhome.

As a DD, probably not. For towing, FO.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 11:59:19 AM EDT
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I average around 11-12 city in my 5.4L F150. And it STILL doesn't have half the power it should.
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
Originally Posted By supernoma:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


V10 engine- fuel economy is expressed in gallons per mile


It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.


I average around 11-12 city in my 5.4L F150. And it STILL doesn't have half the power it should.


I live in Florida.....in the high mountains of Florida but still-it's pretty darn flat here.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:00:06 PM EDT
I had a V10 Excursion, and loved it.
The wife wanted a Mercedes 450 so I sold my Excursion and I have missed it ever since.

I got 13-14 on the highway and it would hold 6 guys and fishing gear.

My son and I could load our hunting gear, coolers and still have room left over.

put a carrier on the back and haul even more.

If it's priced even close to right, you can sell it when you get ready without taking a bath.

Mine was sold 6 years ago, and they are bringing more now than I got for it then with 100k miles plus.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:01:25 PM EDT
I have an 05 diesel I bought in 09. I personally would not touch an excursion unless it was 4WD.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:03:15 PM EDT
Poop. Sound like poop, and the last 2 spark plugs will cost you a pretty penny to change on some models.

Diesel or nothing.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:03:53 PM EDT
How much aftermarket support is out there for that motor for hot rodders?

I want to see one under the hood of a 60's era Mustang!
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:05:39 PM EDT
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It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.
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Originally Posted By BTccw:
Originally Posted By supernoma:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


V10 engine- fuel economy is expressed in gallons per mile


It's not that bad. Just because ours has a navigation system that constantly updates your positon relative to the nearest gas station doesn't mean it's a gas guzzler.


I have seen high 14's with mine and avg around town 11.


Shit, I have an I-6 that only gets me 11 around town and 12-14 on the highway. That's not bad considering the extra four cylinders.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:06:01 PM EDT
Cheap V10 excursion you say?

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Wat? Who said anything about diesel?
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Originally Posted By DarkCharisma:
If you're using it once in a blue moon, the added cost of a diesel doesn't make sense.



Wat? Who said anything about diesel?


You mean to tell me that someone hasn't suggested that, if it's not a diesel, it's not worth getting? The V10 isn't Ford's monument to the best light truck engines, but it does put out plenty of power and is reliable enough. If the OP isn't planning on driving it a ton, living with the 10mpg when he does need it would be much cheaper than waiting for a diesel variant.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:07:28 PM EDT
I had a V10 Excursion, and loved it.
The wife wanted a Mercedes 450 so I sold my Excursion and I have missed it ever since.

I got 13-14 on the highway and it would hold 6 guys and fishing gear.

My son and I could load our hunting gear, coolers and still have room left over.

put a carrier on the back and haul even more.

If it's priced even close to right, you can sell it when you get ready without taking a bath.

Mine was sold 6 years ago, and they are bringing more now than I got for it then with 100k miles plus.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:07:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
How much aftermarket support is out there for that motor for hot rodders?

I want to see one under the hood of a 60's era Mustang!
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Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:08:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
With the cost of diesel being cheaper than gas, I'd go with the diesel... hell even if the diesel was more I'd still go that route... gets much better mpg's, much better engine life, much better resale.
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In most places, diesel is not cheaper than gas.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:15:37 PM EDT
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In most places, diesel is not cheaper than gas.
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With the cost of diesel being cheaper than gas, I'd go with the diesel... hell even if the diesel was more I'd still go that route... gets much better mpg's, much better engine life, much better resale.

In most places, diesel is not cheaper than gas.

This. Diesel is usually on par or higher than premium around here.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:16:39 PM EDT
If you get it, IM me and I'll set you up with my tune guy. He's second to none on on V10 tuning.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:17:23 PM EDT
Ive got a 99 f250 with the 6.8l v10, and 174K on the clock. runs like a top, pulls like a diesel, and gets an average 12 mpg, with a superchips tuner (came with truck) and 89 octane. Ive owned it for about 3 years now. I really like it a lot, but its definately not my daily driver. Never had an issue with it. (knocks on wood)
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:17:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:

Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB
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Originally Posted By Solace22:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.

Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB


I have one and I get that around town, I get closer to 18-19 on the highway.

Now mine MAY have had a mpg tune... it's the only way I can figure it.

Great vehicle, btw. I love mine.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:20:08 PM EDT
The cost of all the big engine 4x4s (diesel and gas) around here are astonishingly high for a trucks with 100k on them. I guess with new stuff pushing $65K, $35K for about the same thing with a few miles on it is a "deal". Who would have thought buying a truck with a v-10 could actually be an investment? Strange times we are living in.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 12:21:05 PM EDT
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Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB
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Originally Posted By Solace22:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Looking at one with 180K miles. Sadly is RWD, but its a smoking deal from a dealership


do you mean its 2wd and not 4wd?
you might be very right about that.

Yep, and I know I will get about 10-12MPG, ouch. They are asking way under KBB
KBB is smoking bath salts while huffing gold spray paint, and their values aren't representative of reality except maybe in CA. How does their price stack up against similar vehicles in your local market? Inspect carefully (meaning get under the car, not just read the carfax) for signs of frame damage, flood, etc...
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Link Posted: 6/16/2014 1:05:54 PM EDT
There are still clean Ex's with the 7.3 if you're patient.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 1:08:07 PM EDT
Imagine an abrams tank rolling through a parking lot.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 1:09:22 PM EDT
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IM me if you see one.

Link Posted: 6/16/2014 1:24:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBski:
Cheap V10 excursion you say?

http://youtu.be/_0f38_BxHcU
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All that work to shoehorn a 6.8 into there for only 310 HP/380 LBS at the rear wheels.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 1:31:33 PM EDT
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All that work to shoehorn a 6.8 into there for only 310 HP/380 LBS at the rear wheels.
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Cheap V10 excursion you say?

http://youtu.be/_0f38_BxHcU



All that work to shoehorn a 6.8 into there for only 310 HP/380 LBS at the rear wheels.


LS[1,2,3,6,7,9,A] owners around the world are chuckling.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 2:19:17 PM EDT
We had one at a car svc co I used to work for.

Black, tan leather interior, RWD, v10.

I think it was an 02 or so, but it was mint, and the boss got a smoking deal on it.

Rode like shit compared to the Escalades and Navigators.

That truck might as well have had a pilot light.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 2:23:10 PM EDT
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LS[1,2,3,6,7,9,A] owners around the world are chuckling.
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Cheap V10 excursion you say?

http://youtu.be/_0f38_BxHcU



All that work to shoehorn a 6.8 into there for only 310 HP/380 LBS at the rear wheels.


LS[1,2,3,6,7,9,A] owners around the world are chuckling.

I was wondering if there's good power to be had on the V10 with big, flowing heads and a couple turbos (plus everything to make it all hold together).

Is the block as strong as Mopar's V10?
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 2:29:46 PM EDT
Diesel or bust.


My dad has 2 late 05 production 6.0L diesels - both heavily tuned and problem free.
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