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Posted: 10/13/2004 8:44:06 AM EST
yet another before class story. guy comes in, we start harpin on the school newspaper. this guy is jewish and recently has returned from a semester at sea. i've heard him murmering about kerry for a while now, but really haven't thought much of it.

today he comes in and says that all of our problems could be solved if we lifted the embargos on cuba- he cited that cuba needs medicine (which we have)- he never really got around to what we needed from cuba....

he told me that he's recently spent a semester at sea and that they made a stop in cuba, and in vietnam as well. he told me that they sat through a three and a half hour speech from Castro himself. "listening to Castro was amazing, just hearing him lay out the facts" nevermind the fact that castro is speaking to 300 american college students who probably know nothing about his background (i don't claim to be an expert on it, but i'd at least be weary of him)

he basically just talked for 20+ minutes to me on why communism was such a good idea. i found this strange because he is a practicing jew. very very strange. so help me shut him down.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:48:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:49:40 AM EST by DriftPunch]
Ask him where freedom is in this scenerio. Is he actually stating that individual freedom is not desirable, and that the individual is secondary to the state?

Communisim goes against human nature. Competition and the urge to climb the hierarchy is instinctual. Thus, the only way communisim can exist, is by force.

Also, don't forget that students are always friendly toward socalisim, as they have nothing to lose at this stage in their lives.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:50:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:51:21 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
Hand him a copy of Ayn Rand's WE THE LIVING


It's a fictional account of living under communism, based on the life experience of a Russian immigrant who lived it.



It should shut his pie hole up.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:50:34 AM EST
Marx was jewish.
Trotsky was jewish
Most of the jews in congress are on the far left.
Just another idiot spewing his eutopian dreams.

As he babbles about the joys of communism, ask him how many jews stalin slaughtered.
Ask him about the refusniks.
what a fucking idiot
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:50:39 AM EST
thankyou- i really don't even know much about communism- i never expected anyone to geniunely argue for it.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:54:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 8:55:43 AM EST by Jarhead_22]
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 8:55:07 AM EST
Anybody that argues for communism has never really read or understood its concept (one based on false assumptions) and has never studied basic history. Communism has never worked.

Communism is a Utopian theory that assumes all people are nice and will unite and share equally (workers unite!)

Capitalism assumes people are greedy assholes and gives everyone a chance to advance themselves (gross oversimplification, but true.)

Guess which one works?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:00:37 AM EST
Tell him when Americans are building makeshift boats and risking death by storm, shark and shoal as they attempt to reach Cuban shores for a new life of freedom, liberty and peace, then he can marvel at the titanic wonder that is Castro.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:04:13 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:10:44 AM EST
ask him why the jews didn't use their guns to defend themselves against hitler.

oops, wait a minute.....
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:26:41 AM EST
Fuck Castro. I have a friend who's parents were both political prisoners in Cuba. This guy should go to Miami and talk to some of the Cubans there about Castro and Communism.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 9:47:38 AM EST
Not mind-blowing in the least.

Jewish "intellectuals" that I work with routinely talk about Communism, how they don't see it as a bad thing, and how they would not be opposed to it in this country.

Welcome to America.

-LS
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 10:45:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
Communism requires mass murder.
Anyone who denies this is lying to you and probably sizing you up for a mass grave.
For that reason alone it should be legal required to kill communists on sight.



You sound just like my Slovak Grandfather. Intensely hated Communists. Passed it on to me, was raised in a family where "bolshevik" was the ultimate putdown.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:01:51 PM EST
And the BIG LIE, "the reason that Communism has failed is that true Communism has never been tried."

Lenin and Stalin weren't true to their own creed???

Give me a break, it doesn't work, never has, never will.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:13:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 4:14:01 PM EST by the]
Sad. So many millions died for that idea, over such a short period of time, yet nobody remembers them.

And now the 'heroes' of the revolution are on t-shirts worn by American children.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:21:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By the:
Sad. So many millions died for that idea, over such a short period of time, yet nobody remembers them.

And now the 'heroes' of the revolution are on t-shirts worn by American children.



If Hitler had called himself a "Communist" and killed 6 million of his own people, he'd probably have his own t-shirt too.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:24:10 PM EST
But....I thought the Jews had ALL of the money, and controlled the world! Why would he need to share with the rest of the people then?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 4:33:14 PM EST
The reason Castro is popular in Cuba is because anybody who opposed him is dead or fled the country. Castro is a disease. Economically, he's an idiot, as well.

Hotel maids, who are left hand-me-down clothes by the tourists, suffer from envy of the peasants. They are considered vulgar rich.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:03:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 5:04:27 PM EST by Mahatma8Rice]
Communism, to survive, requires a totalitarian domination of the masses to supress some men's desires to produce more and thus have more rewards. It also has to force the lazy to produce, or it will slowly grind to a halt (as it did in the 20th century).

Capitalism harnesses the desires of the productive and rewards them.

Liberal Democratic Socialism, tries to combine the two.

My Uncle Celly had a little analogy. He said to take two buckets and fill one with fresh cream and the other with manure. While no quantity of cream added to the manure will change its nature, even the tiniest addition of manure to the cream will ruin it.

Democrats are that bucket of shit.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 5:08:41 PM EST


Useful idiots...
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 12:53:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 4:55:06 AM EST
Castro can get his medicine from Canada (just like Kerry).

GunLvr
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:03:51 AM EST
Those whacky Jews..... ....what's not to love????




Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:05:13 AM EST
Communism IS a fantastic idea. It is in a word, perfect.

On paper.
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:07:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By joker581:
Fuck Castro. I have a friend who's parents were both political prisoners in Cuba. This guy should go to Miami and talk to some of the Cubans there about Castro and Communism.



OMG, NO!!!

He won't make it out alive!
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 5:08:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Thepilot:
...this guy is jewish...

he basically just talked for 20+ minutes to me on why communism was such a good idea. i found this strange because he is a practicing jew. very very strange. so help me shut him down.



Ask him simply how the Jews have been treated in every communist country they've lived in. My friend from Russia got out before the wall came down, and outside of their own communities the Jews were still very much disliked.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 10/14/2004 9:00:52 AM EST
Not to mention, if communism is so good, why has most of the world tried to get out from under it? Even the remainging communist countries (except North Korea) are moving towareds some form of limited market economy.

Now, having said that, I think the Cuba embargo is totally silly. If we're willing to look the other way over's China's abysmal human rights record and deal with them, how can we possibly justify what is in essence a personal vendetta against that old goat Castro? On what grounds? Whatever you come up with, China's done worse, I guarantee it.
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