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Posted: 10/27/2010 2:15:05 PM EST
What would happen if somebody led what would ultimately amount to civil disobedience...but on an enormous and relentless scale...


the way I read the political mood right now...things are ripe for something big. nothing is more insulting than our collective government (I'm talking town, county, state, federal) where corruption is rampant and disgusting...its time we send a message to our officials that enough is enough and this is their last opportunity to fix it.

So we have a day where tens of thousands of people, all across the nation, bust the speed limit by 15 mph. Then there is a day when we cause massive traffic jams...and we think of new and increasingly annoying ways to break the rules...

What do you think?

Fuck Obama

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Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:21:47 PM EST
[#1]
Quoted:
What would happen if somebody led what would ultimately amount to civil disobedience...but on an enormous and relentless scale...


the way I read the political mood right now...things are ripe for something big. nothing is more insulting than our collective government (I'm talking town, county, state, federal) where corruption is rampant and disgusting...its time we send a message to our officials that enough is enough and this is their last opportunity to fix it.

So we have a day where tens of thousands of people, all across the nation, bust the speed limit by 15 mph. Then there is a day when we cause massive traffic jams...and we think of new and increasingly annoying ways to break the rules...

What do you think?

Fuck Obama

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I suspect a thread lock for Code of Conduct #4 violation.

"4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government."



Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:24:06 PM EST
[#2]
harming what? overthrowing what? relax! that's the beauty...no harm no foul right?


Quoted:
Quoted:
What would happen if somebody led what would ultimately amount to civil disobedience...but on an enormous and relentless scale...


the way I read the political mood right now...things are ripe for something big. nothing is more insulting than our collective government (I'm talking town, county, state, federal) where corruption is rampant and disgusting...its time we send a message to our officials that enough is enough and this is their last opportunity to fix it.

So we have a day where tens of thousands of people, all across the nation, bust the speed limit by 15 mph. Then there is a day when we cause massive traffic jams...and we think of new and increasingly annoying ways to break the rules...

What do you think?

Fuck Obama

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I suspect a thread lock for Code of Conduct #4 violation.

"4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government."







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Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:25:24 PM EST
[#3]
in on one and
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:28:54 PM EST
[#4]
In the last few decades that has not worked out well for the protestors.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:31:08 PM EST
[#5]
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harming what? overthrowing what? relax! that's the beauty...no harm no foul right?


""4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government."
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:43:39 PM EST
[#6]
in on one!
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:43:56 PM EST
[#7]
I think the next step is to petition your respective states for redress and protection from oppressive federal laws, exercising and demanding 10th amendment protections.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:57:29 PM EST
[#8]
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I think the next step is to petition your respective states for redress and protection from oppressive federal laws, exercising and demanding 10th amendment protections.


I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.  
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:58:02 PM EST
[#9]
I'm in......  Once you get 999,999 others signed up as well.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:59:05 PM EST
[#10]
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I think the next step is to petition your respective states for redress and protection from oppressive federal laws, exercising and demanding 10th amendment protections.


You must not live in the PRK.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:01:30 PM EST
[#11]
Not that I would advocate such a violation of Federal law , but imagine what would happen if everyone set their income tax withholdings to 0 and "forgot" to file their returns.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:04:09 PM EST
[#12]
Let's see where this one goes...
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:04:29 PM EST
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
harming what? overthrowing what? relax! that's the beauty...no harm no foul right?


""4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government."




I feel much safer now, thank you for pointing this out

The world needs more hall monitors
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:06:21 PM EST
[#14]
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I think the next step is to petition your respective states for redress and protection from oppressive federal laws, exercising and demanding 10th amendment protections.


You must not live in the PRK.


Most of us here dont live in Korea.

On a serious note, there arent many cases that petitions have done much good other than waste time. Correct me if im wrong.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:08:01 PM EST
[#15]
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Not that I would advocate such a violation of Federal law , but imagine what would happen if everyone set their income tax withholdings to 0 and "forgot" to file their returns.


i like it
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:08:32 PM EST
[#16]
IBTL.

And when do we start?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:08:49 PM EST
[#17]
Quoted:
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harming what? overthrowing what? relax! that's the beauty...no harm no foul right?


""4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government."




I feel much safer now, thank you for pointing this out

The world needs more hall monitors


Needs more posters who read and follow the Code of Conduct, too.  

Just giving a heads up to the OP before an actual Staff Member sees it, I didn't click on the report button since I'm not a hall monitor.  

Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:11:58 PM EST
[#18]
Sounds like a good way to get a lot of people arrested.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:12:07 PM EST
[#19]
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In the last few decades that has not worked out well for the protestors.


True. I don't see it working very well.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:14:59 PM EST
[#20]




Quoted:

IBTL.



And when do we start?


More importantly, what is to be done?



The civil rights movement used civil disobedience in targeted form, not mass hysteria. That focuses the attention on something specific you want changed/addressed.

It is bonus if it shuts down a vital function (think college sit in, or protest line at an abortion mill).



Targets, guidelines, and demands that can be met are the keys to civil disobedience. Without those you are easy to write off as hooligans or anarchists (think G5 protests, etc...).

Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:15:14 PM EST
[#21]
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In the last few decades that has not worked out well for the protestors.


True. I don't see it working very well.


I'd say there is a limit on how effective that is though....

i.e. you can only arrest so many / inflict harm on so many until the populace gets the point and turns on you in a violent way.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:17:48 PM EST
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
IBTL.

And when do we start?

More importantly, what is to be done?

The civil rights movement used civil disobedience in targeted form, not mass hysteria. That focuses the attention on something specific you want changed/addressed.
It is bonus if it shuts down a vital function (think college sit in, or protest line at an abortion mill).

Targets, guidelines, and demands that can be met are the keys to civil disobedience. Without those you are easy to write off as hooligans or anarchists (think G5 protests, etc...).


That's another thing I wonder about - if riots similar to G5 riots happened but were politically based - how long until it would take to get violent?

After seeing the riots on TV, how quickly would it incite others to join in? I have a feeling that everyone is waiting for someone to start it, and then it will become like a boiling pot.

I'm not advocating any of this by any means, but that's just how on the edge I feel we as a nation are right now.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:21:50 PM EST
[#23]
Most of us who support the same ideals you do... have jobs.  A couple days in jail is a big deal for us.  So, we, quite frankly, have better things to do that sit-ins.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:25:46 PM EST
[#24]




Quoted:

Most of us who support the same ideals you do... have jobs. A couple days in jail is a big deal for us. So, we, quite frankly, have better things to do that sit-ins.




I hear you. More to lose
than the country...
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:26:33 PM EST
[#25]
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Most of us who support the same ideals you do... have jobs.  A couple days in jail is a big deal for us.  So, we, quite frankly, have better things to do that sit-ins.


However, 15 million other Americans don't....

and their benefits run out soon... something everyone is overlooking.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:31:21 PM EST
[#26]
on one and such.  Now i'll go back and read and replace this in a moment.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:32:00 PM EST
[#27]
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:32:06 PM EST
[#28]
I'm calling it. IBTL.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:35:30 PM EST
[#29]
In response to all you CoC cry babies.  Please see the big red area.  He's just asking a question... and then going into detail about his question.  I so no "advocation" of anything.




Quoted:



What would happen if
somebody led what would ultimately amount to civil disobedience...but on an enormous and relentless scale...
the way I read the political mood right now...things are ripe for something big. nothing is more insulting than our collective government (I'm talking town, county, state, federal) where corruption is rampant and disgusting...its time we send a message to our officials that enough is enough and this is their last opportunity to fix it.





So we have a day where tens of thousands of people, all across the nation, bust the speed limit by 15 mph. Then there is a day when we cause massive traffic jams...and we think of new and increasingly annoying ways to break the rules...





What do you think?





Fuck Obama





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ETA: Also, staff has officially stepped into the ring with no lock, so unless the POSTERS (that's you happy reader ) get it locked, we're just having a polite hypothetical conversation.









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Most of us who support the same ideals you do... have jobs. A couple days in jail is a big deal for us. So, we, quite frankly, have better things to do that sit-ins.


Plus being most here own guns and have a CHP, getting arrested would have a negative impact on such things.



Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:37:55 PM EST
[#30]

Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:38:28 PM EST
[#31]
nvm
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:45:03 PM EST
[#32]
You would have your hair washed with Hickory Shampoo (even the cops on this board would beat you down...because you are going against those who pay them).
You would be jailed,  you would be bankrupted and silenced for trying to do this.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:47:33 PM EST
[#33]
until you reach a critical mass, you'll just be another stat in the annual FBI crime report.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:49:37 PM EST
[#34]
Quoted:
What would happen if somebody led what would ultimately amount to civil disobedience...but on an enormous and relentless scale...


the way I read the political mood right now...things are ripe for something big. nothing is more insulting than our collective government (I'm talking town, county, state, federal) where corruption is rampant and disgusting...its time we send a message to our officials that enough is enough and this is their last opportunity to fix it.

So we have a day where tens of thousands of people, all across the nation, bust the speed limit by 15 mph. Then there is a day when we cause massive traffic jams...and we think of new and increasingly annoying ways to break the rules...

What do you think?

Fuck Obama

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Only 15 mph over the speed limit?

I'll get run off the road for driving that slow!  Are we trying to make a statement, or just trying to piss off fellow commuters?  
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:51:53 PM EST
[#35]



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Quoted:

Most of us who support the same ideals you do... have jobs.  A couple days in jail is a big deal for us.  So, we, quite frankly, have better things to do that sit-ins.


Plus being most here own guns and have a CHP, getting arrested would have a negative impact on such things.

 


Which, I believe, is what the traitors to this nation are counting on.



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:58:11 PM EST
[#36]





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In the last few decades that has not worked out well for the protestors.



Maybe I misunderstand you, but from my perspective, it's worked out GREAT for the protesters.  They started protesting in the 60's, and now they're running the government...





 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:10:20 PM EST
[#37]
I would say, shame on you for not taking a stand when it is due.  Saying, 'I have  too much to lose' begs laying the heavy lifting off on someone else while the power of the government (Federal, State and local) continue to strip your rights until you are at last powerless.  If not you (including me also) to stand up collectivly and push back, who to you leave it too?  The believe that 'we can vote the fools out' is a child's pipedream - one only has to look at history to prove that the new replacements mirror their predicesors.  The sad fact is that for the most part, only a very few very brave of us will take the hard stand when the time comes.  Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:17:27 PM EST
[#38]
I can't spare the time............I mean, c'mon, there's good t.v. on and the couch is comfortable and all.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:21:11 PM EST
[#39]



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I can't spare the time............I mean, c'mon, there's good t.v. on and the couch is comfortable and all.


World Series dammit!

 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:35:44 PM EST
[#40]
As I said, I think the emperor is throwing bread to the mob ............. TV, comfort, food, and best of all, BBQ/beer .
Don't rock my boat and leave me alone.  Sad.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:38:11 PM EST
[#41]



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I can't spare the time............I mean, c'mon, there's good t.v. on and the couch is comfortable and all.


World Series dammit!  


I am a Rangers fan for this series.

 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:40:00 PM EST
[#42]
It would never work for the right, while you are out protesting the leftest scum would be burgling your house
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:50:41 PM EST
[#43]
Hypothetically speaking, Withholding taxes would be the biggest stick to make them pay attention.  But It would take a concerted effort by at least 5 million to overwhelm the system.  I don't think they could jail 5 million at once.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 4:59:39 PM EST
[#44]
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Hypothetically speaking, Withholding taxes would be the biggest stick to make them pay attention.  But It would take a concerted effort by at least 5 million to overwhelm the system.  I don't think they could jail 5 million at once.


Yep, if these tea party blow hards where for real that would be there strategy, starve the beast.

Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:06:24 PM EST
[#45]
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Hypothetically speaking, Withholding taxes would be the biggest stick to make them pay attention.  But It would take a concerted effort by at least 5 million to overwhelm the system.  I don't think they could jail 5 million at once.


Yep, if these tea party blow hards where for real that would be there strategy, starve the beast.



Yah, I am one of those blow hards and ready to stick my neck out as soon as we get 5 mil on board........  Are you in, or just in for the name calling?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:09:36 PM EST
[#46]



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Quoted:


Quoted:

Hypothetically speaking, Withholding taxes would be the biggest stick to make them pay attention.  But It would take a concerted effort by at least 5 million to overwhelm the system.  I don't think they could jail 5 million at once.




Yep, if these tea party blow hards where for real that would be there strategy, starve the beast.







Yah, I am one of those blow hards and ready to stick my neck out as soon as we get 5 mil on board........  Are you in, or just in for the name calling?


That's the rub though, isn't it. Are there 5,000,000 taxpayers in this country willing to commit their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to insure things change?



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:14:56 PM EST
[#47]
Claim married 9 on W2s for a full quarter...That's not illegal, and if everybody did it??  let them remember that there income, comes from us....


ETA.... someone else had the same Idea before me. here I thought I was all clever on the internets again, I guess ill just go drink......
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:19:07 PM EST
[#48]
what, exactly, are we resisting?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:24:02 PM EST
[#49]
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what, exactly, are we resisting?


Government overstepping their "limited" status as called out in the constitution.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 5:26:37 PM EST
[#50]
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Quoted:
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Hypothetically speaking, Withholding taxes would be the biggest stick to make them pay attention.  But It would take a concerted effort by at least 5 million to overwhelm the system.  I don't think they could jail 5 million at once.


Yep, if these tea party blow hards where for real that would be there strategy, starve the beast.



Yah, I am one of those blow hards and ready to stick my neck out as soon as we get 5 mil on board........  Are you in, or just in for the name calling?

That's the rub though, isn't it. Are there 5,000,000 taxpayers in this country willing to commit their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to insure things change?
 


I don't know.  2% of the country, probably not.
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