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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:46:24 PM EDT
oohh boy I want to see that!
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Their race, their rules.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 6:48:04 PM EDT
Between Wal Mart and NASCAR, where else is there for rednecks to go?
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 6:49:35 PM EDT
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fuck them and their race
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Citation please? Or speculation?
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 6:50:44 PM EDT
Wear a confederate flag speedo. Make them take it off of you.
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its on drudge
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 6:58:29 PM EDT
I can see them asking to remove or leave, but take? No way.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:01:27 PM EDT
so NASCAR may take confederate flags from fans in the infield?
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Only if they want a punch in the nose.....
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I will just watch the race at home.
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That's racist
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Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:19:03 PM EDT
Yep, can't wait for the next race in Charlotte.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:19:36 PM EDT
Because Nascar gets so much support from rich liberal hipster urbanites???
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:19:38 PM EDT
lol

as if NASCAR's sliding ratings needed any more help with the decline...
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:22:41 PM EDT
Well, Dale Jr. sided with nascar on this. ironically he drives the 88 car....
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Someones gonna earn a nice broken nose or shiner I bet.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:32:43 PM EDT
I stopped watching nascar ten years ago.

It's been declining ever since.
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nice



 
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 7:37:08 PM EDT
Nascar is dead to me.
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Cause and effect, man! Clearly you need to start watching it again!  
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I'm thinking if they try to do something that stupid, they are going to alienate 87% of their fan base.  Not a very bright idea on their part!
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I stopped watching nascar ten years ago.





 
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I never started

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and as such, fuck nascar


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that, too

even so, fuck nascar
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Cause and effect, man! Clearly you need to start watching it again!  


Zhukov started watching it around that time

coincidence?  I think not

ETA: the man watches fucking soccer, if nascar has gotten shitty enough to be a soccer substitute it needs to die anyway
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:29:20 PM EDT
I'll finish out this year due to it being Gordon's last year then that's it as far as catching nearly every race. Daytona for the wrecks and that's going to be about it.

Since Stewart drives a potato car now I can't really see anyone else that's worth watching.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:33:22 PM EDT
Japanese cars, woman drivers, banning the rebel flag, maybe its time to pound a zima and suck a cock.
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Link please.

Or did you find that story on Rumor Mill News?

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Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:35:40 PM EDT
NASCAR has lost its way.


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No.

NASCAR is a massive money-making machine with massive corporate sponsorships... Including US Military sponsorships...

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans over this for the sake of maintaining their business model: massive corporate sponsorships.

Think Tide (laundry detergent), or Mars (candy) want their name associated with an organization that allows the Confederate Flag to fly?

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans.

They cannot risk losing a few sponsors. They cannot risk it... They cannot risk their business model...
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Those were the best days of NASCAR.....I miss them
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NASCAR has instructed the networks covering races for a number of years to not show th emepty sections of grand stands even at the bigger races. The money they get is nothing from fans. The track owner makes some money and it's been on the decline. Their cash cow is TV.



Notice now when they show a race there's no more sweeping shots of how full/or not full the stands are, there's a reason for that.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 8:47:04 PM EDT
Television killed boxing and hopefully it will do the same to NASCAR.
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The best part of that is you know Cale wouldn't put up with any of it. The drivers and teams themselves have hit into too much money to cause waves about anything. Look at how many drivers who are "arch" enemies get rides from their "arch" enemy in their private plane after the race.



Back in the day (Yeah I'm old) it was a lot more contentious and a lot mor entertaining and a guy was fighting to not have to go back to work at the feed mill.



 
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Darlington
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A smart person would paint a giant rebel flag across the entire roof of his RV, or drape a large one across the back or sides.

It's not interfering, and not all tracks have tunnels under the track to remove people in the infield who would rather fight than take down the flag? What are they going to do? Stop the race to make the flag owners leave?
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Can,t wait for the next Mudfest. No scarcity of confederate flags.
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there used to be a looooong waiting list for tickets to the races, now they sell tickets at the fucking gate and you don't even have to sit next to anybody

they've lost their way, I hope to hell they fold and get replaced with an organization that cares about racing


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Darlington

Will pale in comparison to Talladega's rowdy infield crowd in late October...
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 9:02:46 PM EDT
Trying to boost ratings.  I'm in for the next race just to watch the hilarity as they try to disarm the infield of their murder-rampagin' Confederate flags.
Link Posted: 6/29/2015 9:11:15 PM EDT
we need to start voting with our wallets......
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That's racist


Rimshot.
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No.

NASCAR is a massive money-making machine with massive corporate sponsorships... Including US Military sponsorships...

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans over this for the sake of maintaining their business model: massive corporate sponsorships.

Think Tide (laundry detergent), or Mars (candy) want their name associated with an organization that allows the Confederate Flag to fly?

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans.

They cannot risk losing a few sponsors. They cannot risk it... They cannot risk their business model...
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No.

NASCAR is a massive money-making machine with massive corporate sponsorships... Including US Military sponsorships...

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans over this for the sake of maintaining their business model: massive corporate sponsorships.

Think Tide (laundry detergent), or Mars (candy) want their name associated with an organization that allows the Confederate Flag to fly?

NASCAR can lose a few loyal fans.

They cannot risk losing a few sponsors. They cannot risk it... They cannot risk their business model...


That is a two way street. NASCAR became attractive to corporate sponsors because it drew such large crowds and TV ratings. Both have been in a steady decline now for a number of years. The more fans who abandon NASCAR, the less the incentive for corporate sponsors to remain involved. When it comes to a spectator sport like NASCAR, everything begins and ends with the fans. NASCAR has lost a huge portion of what has always been its most loyal fans. Stunts such as this (banning rebel flags) will only further alienate their fan base. That will mean fewer asses in the stands and less TV interest.

NASCAR's "business model" for the past 15 years has largely involved neglecting the region and the core fan base who made NASCAR into what it became in the 1990s in an attempt to draw in fans from the west coast, the northeast, etc. Yet those fans only stuck around a few years, then became tired of it and moved on to other things. And NASCAR has pissed off its core fans by trying to cater to this new crowd that they have lost many of those fans too. NASCAR's business model sucks ass. That is evident by declining attendance and TV ratings. And it is only going to get worse. NASCAR was at its best when it was still largely a southern thing, back before it tried to become everything to everybody.
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