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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:26:26 PM EDT
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:33:06 PM EDT
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I am also curious about these...
http://store.bobergarms.com/collections/firearms?utm_source=buy%2Bbutton&utm_medium=firearms%2Bpage&utm_campaign=home%2Bpage |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:34:02 PM EDT
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one. I have not held one but I have heard two schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:37:03 PM EDT
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I have not held one but i have heard to schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one. I have not held one but i have heard to schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. Mine is ammo sensitive, but works, and It is small and fierce |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 12:45:59 PM EDT
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I have not held one but i have heard to schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one. I have not held one but i have heard to schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. My EDC/BUG is a Diamondback DB380 (made at work = insta-fired or I'd have gone bigger). I'd read a lot of poor QC reports on the first runs but my ZD### runs like a champ. I'm looking at a tiny-as-possible 9mm as well but discounted the DB9 because the company "discourages" use of +P rounds. Right about now, I'm leaning towards a Kahr PM9. R9S - 5.2"L, 3.9"H, 0.9"W, 14oz, 2.9" bbl, 6-rd mag, "DO NOT USE +P OR +P+ AMMUNITION" on the Rohrbaugh site's FAQ PM9 - 5.4"L, 4.0"H, 0.9"W, 16oz (w/ empty magazine), 3.1" bbl, 6-rd mag, +P ammo rated DB9 - 5.6"L, 4.0"H, 0.8"W, 13oz (w/ empty magazine), 3.0" bbl, 6-rd mag, "Diamondback Firearms does not recommend the use of any 9mm SAMMI Specification ammunition in bullet weights exceeding 124 grain. The use of +P, +P+, reloaded, or NON-SAMMI Spec ammunition will void the firearms warranty." |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:01:56 PM EDT
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When I was looking for a pocket pistol, the Rohrbaugh was the smallest production gun I found. It wasn't the lightest, and wasn't cheap.
I bought a Ruger and got rid of tht POS as fast as I could. Poor design, broke a firing pin in less than 100 res and chewed up the plastic guide rod. I got a Kahr CM9 and am tickled pink with it. Quality piece unlike the Ruger and striker fired. It disappears in a pocket holster and goes everywhere with me. It is +p rated and handles everything from cheap steel stuff to the WIN Ranger +p with no problems. It is not a target pistol, but doesn't beat you up either. I want to get a front night sight for it and that is the only change I will ever make to it. edit to add: The CM9 is 14 oz. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:04:30 PM EDT
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The Rohrbaugh is a lean mean failure to feed machine!
I went to the Walther PPS and haven't looked back. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:06:00 PM EDT
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I have not held one but I have heard two schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one. I have not held one but I have heard two schools of thought on those.. one is that they are all crap two is that only the earlier versions were crap and the newer ones are fine.. That is interesting. I would consider one as a deep concealment gun, if it worked reliably... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:07:10 PM EDT
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edit to add: The CM9 is 14 oz. That's for the gun alone. The mag is another 2oz. Joys of marketing. 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Rohrbaugh is a lean mean failure to feed machine!  |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 1:51:31 PM EDT
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I chose this :
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Accurate, uber reliable, easy to shoot well, established track record - a very fine pistol by any measure. 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:01:59 PM EDT
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I have a Sig 938 and think it is awesome. Always goes boom, it's small, and steel is real.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was looking for a pocket pistol, the Rohrbaugh was the smallest production gun I found. It wasn't the lightest, and wasn't cheap. I bought a Ruger and got rid of tht POS as fast as I could. Poor design, broke a firing pin in less than 100 res and chewed up the plastic guide rod. I got a Kahr CM9 and am tickled pink with it. Quality piece unlike the Ruger and striker fired. It disappears in a pocket holster and goes everywhere with me. It is +p rated and handles everything from cheap steel stuff to the WIN Ranger +p with no problems. It is not a target pistol, but doesn't beat you up either. I want to get a front night sight for it and that is the only change I will ever make to it. edit to add: The CM9 is 14 oz. The CM9 was my choice as well. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:22:56 PM EDT
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The diamondback 9mm is pretty darn small...not that I'd necessarily recommend one. Mine has been flawless so far. And yes I forget i have it a lot. Only gripe I've had is that gold dots are a little hard to feed manually. Have go really drop the slide. If you ride it just a Lil bit it will get caught on the feed ramp. However it functioned with them just fine firing. Needless to say, I don't carry those in it and their site says not to use gold dots irc. It loves the hornady critical defense rounds with the rubbery tip. Cycles them very smooth manually. I haven't been a le to get them not to fully seat even riding the slide. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CM9 was my choice as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When I was looking for a pocket pistol, the Rohrbaugh was the smallest production gun I found. It wasn't the lightest, and wasn't cheap. I bought a Ruger and got rid of tht POS as fast as I could. Poor design, broke a firing pin in less than 100 res and chewed up the plastic guide rod. I got a Kahr CM9 and am tickled pink with it. Quality piece unlike the Ruger and striker fired. It disappears in a pocket holster and goes everywhere with me. It is +p rated and handles everything from cheap steel stuff to the WIN Ranger +p with no problems. It is not a target pistol, but doesn't beat you up either. I want to get a front night sight for it and that is the only change I will ever make to it. edit to add: The CM9 is 14 oz. The CM9 was my choice as well. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 2:40:24 PM EDT
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My Keltec PF9 fits in nearly every pair of jeans and shorts I own. I'm not sure I would want to shoot a gun much smaller/lighter in 9mm. A few mags of full power defensive ammo is usually enough to leave my hand stinging
Its also never given me an issue through around 1k rounds. Feeds gold dot, HST, PDX1, and golden sabre. I havent found one it didnt like. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:48:13 PM EDT
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I like the sig938 pretty small but its very controllable.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:49:04 PM EDT
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Just want to remind everyone that the Diamondback guy is an 0bama voter...
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:55:37 PM EDT
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is it the Rohrbaugh the smallest or is there a smaller one? One of my coworkers father is one of the co-founders or something of that nature to Rohrbaugh. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 3:58:35 PM EDT
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:03:00 PM EDT
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Sig P938 is pretty small, not the smallest or lightest but its got to be close.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:03:48 PM EDT
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My khar isn't the smallest but its really close, and I love it.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:04:22 PM EDT
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My Keltec PF9 fits in nearly every pair of jeans and shorts I own. I'm not sure I would want to shoot a gun much smaller/lighter in 9mm. A few mags of full power defensive ammo is usually enough to leave my hand stinging Its also never given me an issue through around 1k rounds. Feeds gold dot, HST, PDX1, and golden sabre. I havent found one it didnt like. Same here. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:04:55 PM EDT
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My Keltec PF9 fits in nearly every pair of jeans and shorts I own. I'm not sure I would want to shoot a gun much smaller/lighter in 9mm. A few mags of full power defensive ammo is usually enough to leave my hand stinging Its also never given me an issue through around 1k rounds. Feeds gold dot, HST, PDX1, and golden sabre. I havent found one it didnt like. I have had similar luck with my PF9. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:05:10 PM EDT
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> Too bad they're practically vaporware for the rest of us, or I would have one.... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Those are sweet..............interesting operation. I'd love to have the Onyx
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:22:24 PM EDT
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My khar isn't the smallest but its really close, and I love it. I have a very early PM9. Runs great and easy to carry. I love mine as well. Mike |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:34:49 PM EDT
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I'd think the Kahr PM9 would be in the running. Those are tiny.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 4:50:32 PM EDT
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> No such thing as full power from a barrel that small  just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:01:10 PM EDT
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No such thing as full power from a barrel that small just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> No such thing as full power from a barrel that small just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.You obviously don't understand the Boberg. It's got a barrel more than an inch longer than a similar sized gun. 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:03:39 PM EDT
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The CM9 was my choice as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When I was looking for a pocket pistol, the Rohrbaugh was the smallest production gun I found. It wasn't the lightest, and wasn't cheap. I bought a Ruger and got rid of tht POS as fast as I could. Poor design, broke a firing pin in less than 100 res and chewed up the plastic guide rod. I got a Kahr CM9 and am tickled pink with it. Quality piece unlike the Ruger and striker fired. It disappears in a pocket holster and goes everywhere with me. It is +p rated and handles everything from cheap steel stuff to the WIN Ranger +p with no problems. It is not a target pistol, but doesn't beat you up either. I want to get a front night sight for it and that is the only change I will ever make to it. edit to add: The CM9 is 14 oz. The CM9 was my choice as well. Me three.... Love it.... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:04:36 PM EDT
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I chose this : http://<a href=http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo220/cashbailey_photos/DSCN0002.jpg</a>" /> Accurate, uber reliable, easy to shoot well, established track record - a very fine pistol by any measure. I love min, never had a problem with it. Although it is chambered in .40 |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:05:06 PM EDT
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I've got the Kahr CW9 and SIG 238. Wish I could afford a 938 or CM9
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:06:43 PM EDT
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You obviously don't understand the Boberg. It's got a barrel more than an inch longer than a similar sized gun. http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Boberg_cutaway.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> No such thing as full power from a barrel that small just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.You obviously don't understand the Boberg. It's got a barrel more than an inch longer than a similar sized gun. http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Boberg_cutaway.jpg You obviously are a fanboy of a POS And the pic is a short not long like the diagram you provided |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:09:54 PM EDT
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I went with the PPS as well, I think it is the best of breed single stack, subcompact 9mm pistol for CCW. I certainly prefer it over the Kahr, but I would also consider a Shield.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:10:48 PM EDT
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You obviously are a fanboy of a POS And the pic is a short not long like the diagram you provided Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> No such thing as full power from a barrel that small just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.You obviously don't understand the Boberg. It's got a barrel more than an inch longer than a similar sized gun. http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Boberg_cutaway.jpg You obviously are a fanboy of a POS And the pic is a short not long like the diagram you provided Couln't find a cutaway of the S Still just as long as a PF9, should a PF9 be a 380 instead? Are you going to contribute to the thread or just be the ".380 is better" clown? |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:14:57 PM EDT
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Couln't find a cutaway of the S Still just as long as a PF9, should a PF9 be a 380 instead? Are you going to contribute to the thread or just be the ".380 is better" clown? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like my Boberg. 7+1 full power 9mm in a pistol about the size of a pack of cigarettes. <a href="http://s1109.photobucket.com/user/barbecuecowboy2/media/bobergxr9s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h432/barbecuecowboy2/bobergxr9s.jpg</a> No such thing as full power from a barrel that small just unburned powder. A 380 can do the same thing and be smaller.You obviously don't understand the Boberg. It's got a barrel more than an inch longer than a similar sized gun. http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Boberg_cutaway.jpg You obviously are a fanboy of a POS And the pic is a short not long like the diagram you provided Couln't find a cutaway of the S Still just as long as a PF9, should a PF9 be a 380 instead? Are you going to contribute to the thread or just be the ".380 is better" clown? I'll be whatever I want…. This is a place for opinions so don't get butt hurt when someone has a different one than you. Makes you look small and petty |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:15:55 PM EDT
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I'll be whatever I want…. This is a place for opinions so don't get butt hurt when someone has a different one than you. Makes you look small and petty Today you've obviously decided to be a dick. You started the snobbing and the name calling, buddy. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:18:09 PM EDT
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My Beretta Nano is small enough to be easy to conceal almost anywhere.
I know some folks have experienced feeding problems with them, but I seem to have lucked out. Mine reliably eats almost anything I feed it. Edited to fix grammar |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:18:50 PM EDT
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I went with the PPS as well, I think it is the best of breed single stack, subcompact 9mm pistol for CCW. I certainly prefer it over the Kahr, but I would also consider a Shield. Curious (since I haven't spent money yet) - what makes it and the Shield preferable to the Kahr? |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:19:06 PM EDT
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Today you've obviously decided to be a dick. You started the snobbing and the name calling, buddy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll be whatever I want…. This is a place for opinions so don't get butt hurt when someone has a different one than you. Makes you look small and petty Today you've obviously decided to be a dick. You started the snobbing and the name calling, buddy. My "understanding" of firearms was questioned so I take that as an attack. Soooo……. no you are wrong |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:20:06 PM EDT
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My "understanding" of firearms was questioned so I take that as an attack. Soooo……. no you are wrong Tell me what you think the minimum barrel length is for 9mm to be more effective than .380. With 124gr Hydrashocks: XR9-S (5.1" long) Energy:314 Velocity:1068 Kimber Solo (5.5" long) Energy:268 Velocity:987 Fact is, it's got a barrel length almost identical to a G26, are those stupid, POS shorties too? So yes, I questioned your understanding of firearms because you sound ignorant on the subject of small 9mm's. Sorry that hurt your feelings. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:22:40 PM EDT
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is it the Rohrbaugh the smallest or is there a smaller one? Yes, the smallest, lightest and the most expensive. |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:27:37 PM EDT
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Tell me what you think the minimum barrel length is for 9mm to be more effective than .380. With 124gr Hydrashocks: XR9-S (5.1" long) Energy:314 Velocity:1068 Kimber Solo (5.5" long) Energy:268 Velocity:987 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My "understanding" of firearms was questioned so I take that as an attack. Soooo……. no you are wrong Tell me what you think the minimum barrel length is for 9mm to be more effective than .380. With 124gr Hydrashocks: XR9-S (5.1" long) Energy:314 Velocity:1068 Kimber Solo (5.5" long) Energy:268 Velocity:987 16 inches, anything less is useless when it comes to 9mm 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:27:55 PM EDT
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Genitron is a nice website for comparing specifics of multiple firearms, but takes months to get new gun models added. For the chart below I sorted by overall length.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:30:22 PM EDT
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16 inches, anything less is useless when it comes to 9mm There is a point of diminishing returns in there somewhere... 
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:31:04 PM EDT
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I really wish MSAR had brought the Archangel to production before they went tits up
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:31:16 PM EDT
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Genitron is a nice website for comparing specifics of multiple firearms, but takes months to get new gun models added. For the chart below I sorted by overall length. http://i.imgur.com/um0d8vg.png And hey look, the Boberg has the longest barrel of the bunch.... |
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:37:20 PM EDT
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And hey look, the Boberg has the longest barrel of the bunch.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Genitron is a nice website for comparing specifics of multiple firearms, but takes months to get new gun models added. For the chart below I sorted by overall length. http://i.imgur.com/um0d8vg.png And hey look, the Boberg has the longest barrel of the bunch.... And an extra round. There was a youtube channel that did a review and also visited the company interviewing the owner etc. Let's see if I can find it. ETA --- 
The gun looks nice and I can appreciate the fact that the owner insists on always making a "budget" model below $1k, but I doubt I'd ever fork out for one at their current going prices.
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Posted: 7/25/2013 5:56:14 PM EDT
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looks like it would be hard to holster
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