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Posted: 4/20/2007 3:52:15 AM EST
My first grader came home yesterday and told me about their "intruder drill" they had.  Basically if there is an intruder, they announce it over the PA system.  The teacher locks the doors and the children hide under their desks.

Is this what we should be teaching our children?  Granted he's a first grader, but when he gets older this is what he will have been taught...

After reading up on Columbine I was stunned when I came to the " Library Massacre".  Basically they walked around 50 students picking and choosing which to shoot.  50 vs 2? No resistance?  Is this what the students at Columbine were "taught"? Is this what the college students at VT were taught?  Flee or Cower?  I'm just asking.  I mean no disrespect.  I don't know what I would have done in these situations, at that age.  I might have run.  I might have hid under a desk.  But do we just not teach the "fight" part of fight/flight anymore?  

Does gun = impenetrable fortress, no matter what the attacker / hostage ratio is?

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Link Posted: 4/20/2007 4:14:06 AM EST
"Duck and Cover"  
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 4:15:20 AM EST
That is retarded.

Sheeple drill.

Nothing like teaching our kids how to be helpless and not think for themselves.

Max
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 4:30:25 AM EST

Quoted:
That is retarded.

Sheeple drill.
Nothing like teaching our kids how to be helpless and not think for themselves.
Max


What else do you expect a six-year-old to do?    They can't think for themselves or defend themselves very well yet.

It's a drill for the teachers more than anything.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 4:39:53 AM EST
Then teach the teachers not the student.

Max
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:11:10 AM EST
Well a few questions:

Is there a lock on the class room door?  There should be a double key dead bolt if there is a worry of the lock being used inappropriately.  The class room door should be locked.

Is the furniture movable?  If so they should be barricading themselves in side the class room that they know is safe.

Are the teachers allowed to have cell phones in the class rooms?  If so the teacher should then get on the phone to 911, “Room number XXX is secure, we have barricaded ourselves inside, there is no shooter here.  We will come out when the police arrive, have the situation under control, and the police are outside the door to escort us to a safe place.”  Then when the police are at the door, the teacher needs to ask for the name of the officer, and communicate through the barricade to verify it is a real Law Enforcement Officer on the other side and not a ruse.

A single desk will not any protection to firearms, but 20 of them in front of the door will help prevent the bad people from coming into the class room.  

It sounds like they have taken the Earthquake Drill procedure for everything.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:13:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:48:15 AM EST

Some concerned parent should give the teacher a gold AK and teach her how to use it to defend those little chil'ins.

Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:08:00 AM EST

Quoted:
That is retarded.

Sheeple drill.

Nothing like teaching our kids how to be helpless and not think for themselves.

Max


Don't be daft. A six year old is probably not capable of thinking tactically.

Denial of access and barricading is a good thing. if the school district is worth  a fuck, then there will be a SRO in or near the school. No SRO training I have ever attended has advocated leaving the premesis while an incident is occurring.

This has nothing to do with thinking for ones self. It has everything to do with assuming responsibility for the safety and welfare of the children in  'your' charge. In this case, the police have a responsibility and a mandate to act.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:11:12 AM EST
We had the same bullshit in HS. The code was "Mr. Swisher, you have a phone call." Everyone knew Swisher hadn't been there for over 5 years."

Don't get me started on guns in cars. It's always some hunting season in MO. Half the guys had guns in their cars. Don't ask, don't tell.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 7:44:27 AM EST

Quoted:
My first grader came home yesterday and told me about their "intruder drill" they had.  Basically if there is an intruder, they announce it over the PA system.  The teacher locks the doors and the children hide under their desks.

Is this what we should be teaching our children?  Granted he's a first grader, but when he gets older this is what he will have been taught...

After reading up on Columbine I was stunned when I came to the " Library Massacre".  Basically they walked around 50 students picking and choosing which to shoot.  50 vs 2? No resistance?  Is this what the students at Columbine were "taught"? Is this what the college students at VT were taught?  Flee or Cower?  I'm just asking.  I mean no disrespect.  I don't know what I would have done in these situations, at that age.  I might have run.  I might have hid under a desk.  But do we just not teach the "fight" part of fight/flight anymore?  

Does gun = impenetrable fortress, no matter what the attacker / hostage ratio is?

[/rant]





Code Red. Hide in the cubby area(backpacks,coats, ect.) and cover yourself with your backpack. My kids have a different plan, get the hell out.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 7:49:19 AM EST

Quoted:
"Duck and Cover"  


It SHOULD be "Take cover, return fire."
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 7:57:49 AM EST
Put on lipstick.

Pull down pants.

Slap KY on stinkter.

Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:42:16 PM EST

Quoted:
Some concerned parent should give the teacher a gold AK and teach her how to use it to defend those little chil'ins.



arm the teacher???





Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:46:53 PM EST
I dig the gold assault weapon.  Where did you get the gold clip?
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:26:53 PM EST
the second kid has better trigger finger discipline.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:29:46 PM EST

Quoted:
I dig the gold assault weapon.  Where did you get the gold clip?
IT IS A MAG, NOT A CLIP!
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 7:02:46 PM EST

Quoted:
the second kid has better trigger finger discipline.


he had the advantage of seeing me "correct" the first...






Link Posted: 4/21/2007 8:41:02 AM EST

[Mr Burns] Exxxxxxxcellent [/Mr Burns]

Was Momma smiling while you were snapping these pics?

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