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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:05:00 AM EDT
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You aren't safe if Hillary is on their team!
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:10:10 AM EDT
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You aren't safe if Hillary is on their team! Bitch stole my fish! |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:10:59 AM EDT
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FYI it is "lo and behold".
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:12:45 AM EDT
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Every time I do something I don't feel that great about I copy the world on it.
"As per our discussion I am going to ........... per your instructions." |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:19:57 AM EDT
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:24:36 AM EDT
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it. yeah, I've been thinking they need something like that.....this actually isn't the first time this has happened with one of these guys either...the first time i let it slide since I like the person and didn't want to seem him get into trouble, but this time I had to bring it to the attention of my superiors since it wasted an hour out my day, caused me a lot of angst (I was seriously stressing over the fact that I may have lost/misplaced this sample), and made me late for a meeting. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:12:51 AM EDT
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it. Yup. My business is guns, you don't get shit until you print and sign. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:14:55 AM EDT
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That paper trail, in this case that email trail.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:23:26 AM EDT
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Hmmmnnn...
OP said protein sample??? And OP also said freezer to -80 degrees??? It's okay if you were at a sperm bank. I won't tell anyone. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:31:56 AM EDT
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Anything that I consider important, I copy myself on. That turns out to be almost everything. To me it is easier to find in my in box.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:35:30 AM EDT
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A policy that I am coaching my team about constantly. Email, not text. Texting is a non-formal form of communication. Emails can be managed in folders, and maintained on the server, but I digress.....
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:36:56 AM EDT
[#12]
Cover Your Ass
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:43:49 AM EDT
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Same thing works for meetings. When you get out of a meeting write down what you heard (your take) and send it to others that were in the meeting and copy (cc) others. Later it could be used as documentation. Some people like to have meetings and hate to see things in writing. You can try to twist things that you may have said but you cant hide from the written word.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:45:46 AM EDT
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Are you sure that "manufactured by our in-house protein science team" isn't just code for "glocke12 jerking off into peoples' lunches again?" |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:52:30 AM EDT
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Email = Evidence Mail
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:08:22 AM EDT
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Same thing works for meetings. When you get out of a meeting write down what you heard (your take) and send it to others that were in the meeting and copy (cc) others. Later it could be used as documentation. Some people like to have meetings and hate to see things in writing. You can try to twist things that you may have said but you cant hide from the written word. This is good shit. I've seen people do this and wondered why. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:20:26 AM EDT
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Same thing works for meetings. When you get out of a meeting write down what you heard (your take) and send it to others that were in the meeting and copy (cc) others. Later it could be used as documentation. Some people like to have meetings and hate to see things in writing. You can try to twist things that you may have said but you cant hide from the written word. yup...thats another piece of good advice..on more than one occasion my immediate supervisor and myself have remembered things differently from a meeting. Often times this has left me feeling like I am going crazy...I'll be doing this from now on. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:21:15 AM EDT
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Are you sure that "manufactured by our in-house protein science team" isn't just code for "glocke12 jerking off into peoples' lunches again?" only your lunch.. 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 7:56:45 AM EDT
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I keep a notebook and write down everything that happens throughout the day along with the hours I worked. Important conversations are written verbatim and witnesses are noted.
The few times I have had a supervisor lose their temper I went and got written statements from witnesses and tucked them in my notebook along with a written statement I wrote that I had signed by their boss. I never made a big deal about it but I have never had to work for or around those people again. A few weeks ago I got an email requesting information about a calibrated tool I had used in the summer of 2013... 2 years and they wanted to know if by being 6% out of tolerance I had violated any requirements... not only did I have all of the jobs documented on super critical jobs I will document measurements/torque values for OQE. (Some how paperwork tends to disappear when the job goes sideways...) |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:00:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Email = Evidence Mail |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:04:37 AM EDT
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where i work they would pull a hilary and delete the whole email account.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:09:20 AM EDT
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What if I don't want my actions recorded?
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:09:57 AM EDT
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where i work they would pull a hilary and delete the whole email account. You can copy important emails in hard copy, save it on a flash drive, and send it to a personal email account. There are many ways to cover yourself. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:21:10 AM EDT
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You can copy important emails in hard copy, save it on a flash drive, and send it to a personal email account. There are many ways to cover yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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where i work they would pull a hilary and delete the whole email account. You can copy important emails in hard copy, save it on a flash drive, and send it to a personal email account. There are many ways to cover yourself. All of those things would get me fired.  .
We have to be more sneaky and save .PDF files in obscure locations on network drives. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:30:27 AM EDT
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A few weeks ago I got an email requesting information about a calibrated tool I had used in the summer of 2013... 2 years and they wanted to know if by being 6% out of tolerance I had violated any requirements... not only did I have all of the jobs documented on super critical jobs I will document measurements/torque values for OQE. (Some how paperwork tends to disappear when the job goes sideways...) Depending on the torque wrench, 6% may be within the tolerance spec of the torque wrench certification. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:30:31 AM EDT
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I almost enjoy forwarding old emails where I provided or was given instruction.
"I don't what you're talking about. I was never told to do this" "FWD: from: Rob78 To: shitforbrains Originally sent: 6/10/15 XYZ must be completed prior to project completion. Please provide required info in attached documents. Thanks, Rob78. " |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:32:05 AM EDT
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All of those things would get me fired. .
We have to be more sneaky and save .PDF files in obscure locations on network drives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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where i work they would pull a hilary and delete the whole email account. You can copy important emails in hard copy, save it on a flash drive, and send it to a personal email account. There are many ways to cover yourself. All of those things would get me fired. .
We have to be more sneaky and save .PDF files in obscure locations on network drives. Does a BCC show up anywhere? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:40:39 AM EDT
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My email chains saved my ass at least once this year regarding a scheduling incident. My ass was covered and the project manager was responsible for not correctly noting dates of delivery.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:53:36 AM EDT
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Every time I do something I don't feel that great about I copy the world on it. "As per our discussion I am going to ........... per your instructions." I usually make people that do this, look like inept fools with a reply to all. Well I don't actually "make" them, just point it out. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 8:57:15 AM EDT
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yeah, I've been thinking they need something like that.....this actually isn't the first time this has happened with one of these guys either...the first time i let it slide since I like the person and didn't want to seem him get into trouble, but this time I had to bring it to the attention of my superiors since it wasted an hour out my day, caused me a lot of angst (I was seriously stressing over the fact that I may have lost/misplaced this sample), and made me late for a meeting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it. yeah, I've been thinking they need something like that.....this actually isn't the first time this has happened with one of these guys either...the first time i let it slide since I like the person and didn't want to seem him get into trouble, but this time I had to bring it to the attention of my superiors since it wasted an hour out my day, caused me a lot of angst (I was seriously stressing over the fact that I may have lost/misplaced this sample), and made me late for a meeting. 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:02:50 AM EDT
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Lots of people read emails by just staring at the middle of the text like a fucking word puzzle, if anything they want to hear jumps out, they will see that, but otherwise will not comprehend or understand anything. I like to save emails as .msg to forward people months later when they magically forget they have to do something on their end until the day before due
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:04:23 AM EDT
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yup...thats another piece of good advice..on more than one occasion my immediate supervisor and myself have remembered things differently from a meeting. Often times this has left me feeling like I am going crazy...I'll be doing this from now on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Same thing works for meetings. When you get out of a meeting write down what you heard (your take) and send it to others that were in the meeting and copy (cc) others. Later it could be used as documentation. Some people like to have meetings and hate to see things in writing. You can try to twist things that you may have said but you cant hide from the written word. yup...thats another piece of good advice..on more than one occasion my immediate supervisor and myself have remembered things differently from a meeting. Often times this has left me feeling like I am going crazy...I'll be doing this from now on. This pisses me off to no end. We get our list of work for the day , the boss says , I need A , B , and C done . An hour later the fuckstick I work with says , we're doing 9, $ , and potato . I give him the  , wtf are you talking about look, say we need to do a , b , and c , that's when the argument starts.
Fuck me , it's not rocket science. I've had this argument ....I would say at least 500 times. At LEAST . Without fail, at the end of the day I hear, oh good thing we did a , b and c. 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:06:32 AM EDT
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It's important. I email my FAA field inspector asking him something about an aircraft or situation, and instead of replying he calls me and claims the answer is too long to email.
I always summarize what he said and email it back to him again, saying that in our discussion on date such and such he said this and that. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:08:43 AM EDT
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All of those things would get me fired. .
We have to be more sneaky and save .PDF files in obscure locations on network drives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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where i work they would pull a hilary and delete the whole email account. You can copy important emails in hard copy, save it on a flash drive, and send it to a personal email account. There are many ways to cover yourself. All of those things would get me fired. .
We have to be more sneaky and save .PDF files in obscure locations on network drives. For a slightly extra measure of safety for those casually browsing your files, you can change the extension from pdf to other odd things such as .bfl |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:11:29 AM EDT
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it. Don't you even Chain of Custody, bro? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:15:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's important. I email my FAA field inspector asking him something about an aircraft or situation, and instead of replying he calls me and claims the answer is too long to email.I always summarize what he said and email it back to him again, saying that in our discussion on date such and such he said this and that. He is trying to be clever. Can you record the calls? |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:16:03 AM EDT
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Give no verbal order.
Accept no verbal order. (This wisdom has its own acronym: ANVO.) |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:20:04 AM EDT
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You don't need to document "everything," just what matters.
Also, you don't need to circulate a "CYA" email, because that's what it looks like. If it's worth documenting with a CYA email (as opposed to sending an email in the regular course of business) send yourself an email detailing your contemporaneous notes of the circumstances, what was agreed to, who was responsible for what, etc. That way it carries a date stamp. You may say, well, in the future, it's my word against theirs! Not really. In evidentary terms, contemporaneous records carry more weight than those "prepared during the heat of litigation." I.e., if it's contemporary and not after the fact, it will be accorded more credibility. This way, you don't have to circulate CYA emails and look like a paranoid crazy person (even if you are). Just circulate the stuff that matters. And keep your notes to yourself. Until you have to introduce them into evidence.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:22:12 AM EDT
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He is trying to be clever. Can you record the calls? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's important. I email my FAA field inspector asking him something about an aircraft or situation, and instead of replying he calls me and claims the answer is too long to email.I always summarize what he said and email it back to him again, saying that in our discussion on date such and such he said this and that. He is trying to be clever. Can you record the calls? That's what I always do with any verbal client discussion that doesn't include a written change order. And I always close the email by saying, "If this is not what we agreed, please respond immediately otherwise we will continue work as discussed..." Some of these clowns will "DK" ("Don't Know") you in a heartbeat if something goes wrong. First, it's, "yeah, that sounds great!", but if the plan doesn't work it's suddenly, "I never authorized that..." ...ahem, "Yes, you did...right here." |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:30:29 AM EDT
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Even better - signed custody receipt on paper. Nobody gets anything without signing for it. And, make them sign before you hand it to them. |
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:38:51 AM EDT
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On Thursday another employee had come up to me and asked me for a sample of something that my supervisor had asked him to test earlier in the week. This material is somewhat precious, as it was manufactured by our in-house protein science team and is not available elsewhere. It would take weeks if not months to obtain more. I had thought I had given this material to this person and his colleague weeks ago, but they both swore up and down that I had not. I actually asked them at least 2-3 times about this "are you guys CERTAIN I did not give this material to you??". This resulted in my tearing apart our -80 freezers and digging around in various boxes and through built up ice in the search for this stuff. Spent an hour looking for it and thought i was going nuts and was starting to freak out as I did not relish telling my boss and everyone else that I had lost something. Eventually I went back to check my "sent mail" folder, and low and behold there was an email sent to both of them form me dated 3 weeks ago where I tell them that I placed it in their area of the freezer, and it's exact location. Loss of an important sample. This is really the type of thing that can come back and haunt you at review/layoff time. TL/DR crowd: Don't take anything for granted...establish an email chain for your actions. Why do you save your co-workers sperm? Are you a fertility clinic or just kinky?
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:39:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:41:43 AM EDT
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Are you sure that "manufactured by our in-house protein science team" isn't just code for "glocke12 jerking off into peoples' lunches again?" 
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Posted: 7/4/2015 9:55:31 AM EDT
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This is why I get 50+ emails a day.
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Posted: 7/4/2015 10:11:37 AM EDT
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It is the intent of this email to reduce to writing the conversation that took place on ...
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