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Posted: 1/21/2013 7:58:14 PM EDT
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You can find all sorts of ballistics tests posted online that were conducted by independent/gov labs (not methbilly joe blasting an old fridge with his MAK 90
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:01:06 PM EDT
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well..im curious if any of you free livin country folk that can shoot your shit at will have actually done any real world ballistic testing.like shooting thru a old fridge or maybe a old car or something of the sort to see the difference in calibers.you see these dudes on the youtube shootin like phonebooks and shit but i dont think that is a real expectation of what a bullet can really do.i recently went to my local cabelas and they like 50 used .40 cal pistols that they said the indiana state police traded in because they were goin back to .45 acp.is a .45 that much better than a .40? With modern bullet design, there is little argument to make in support of one caliber over the others. My guess would be they went back to 45 because they could not handle the 40 caliber rounds. .40 is a little more snappier than 9mm or 45acp. 
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:01:39 PM EDT
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You can find all sorts of ballistics tests posted online that were conducted by independent/gov labs (not methbilly joe blasting an old fridge with his MAK 90 ).I made up a bunch of fake wall sections with sheetrock scraps, 2x4s, insulation, electrical conduit, et cetera to simulate bullet penetration at a house and record what happened after. I need to make some more and record for YouTube next time, it was interesting stuff. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:02:07 PM EDT
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Whats wrong with youtube?
Maybe they aren't labeled as pros, but if you gather the videos and take the time to look around on them, you can come to some mildly educated conclusions. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:04:48 PM EDT
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9mm FMJ will easily go through one door of a car.
M193 goes through easily as well but gets stopped by teh opposite door. M855 goes through both doors like a hot knife through butter. 75grn OTM goes through just like M855. tested from about 30yds away out of a 16"mid-length bbl'd AR15 |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:24:16 PM EDT
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well..what i talkin about is how stuff penetrates in the real world...not ballistics gel..lets say for instance you had a intruder in your home and they were hiding behind a hardwood table in your klitchen,if you lite it up the table would one or all calibers have enough punch to penetrate the table and the intruder?and if so ,would there be enough energy left to stop the person?i have never been fortunate enough to be able to go out and just shoot anything other than paper and deer so i dont really know what to expect..i realize it sounds dumb but im sure someone on here has real world experience with this.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:26:17 PM EDT
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well..im curious if any of you free livin country folk that can shoot your shit at will have actually done any real world ballistic testing.like shooting thru a old fridge or maybe a old car or something of the sort to see the difference in calibers.you see these dudes on the youtube shootin like phonebooks and shit but i dont think that is a real expectation of what a bullet can really do.i recently went to my local cabelas and they like 50 used .40 cal pistols that they said the indiana state police traded in because they were goin back to .45 acp.is a .45 that much better than a .40? With modern bullet design, there is little argument to make in support of one caliber over the others. My guess would be they went back to 45 because they could not handle the 40 caliber rounds. .40 is a little more snappier than 9mm or 45acp. http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/wp-content/uploads/handgun_gel_comparison.jpg  somebody cut the 10mm off the bottom of that chart
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:16:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:19:50 PM EDT
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I just go around collecting bums and hookers and test it out on them.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:21:13 PM EDT
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I was about to. O_P has lots of good stuff... |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:23:16 PM EDT
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The Op needs to go to a machine gun shoot.
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:23:21 PM EDT
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well..what i talkin about is how stuff penetrates in the real world...not ballistics gel..lets say for instance you had a intruder in your home and they were hiding behind a hardwood table in your klitchen,if you lite it up the table would one or all calibers have enough punch to penetrate the table and the intruder?and if so ,would there be enough energy left to stop the person?i have never been fortunate enough to be able to go out and just shoot anything other than paper and deer so i dont really know what to expect..i realize it sounds dumb but im sure someone on here has real world experience with this. Hell if I know. Hollow point bullets are designed for flesh. FMJ penetrate other medias better. My brother was told during the academy that the Texas Highway Patrol chose the 356 sig due to its performance after penetrating a windshield. You have to decide what you want to shoot through. I do not plan on shooting through something I can not see through. Shooting hardwood tables at an angle seems like a good way to shoot something you did not intend to in the first place. If some one comes into my house, I am not picking up a pistol or one of my rifles first, I am going for the 12 gauge right off the bat. I have them loaded with Winchester PDX 12. There is not much a 1oz slug will not penetrate. 
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:24:04 PM EDT
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I was about to. O_P has lots of good stuff... I thought about posting it, but did not see any videos where he compared different rounds against each other. |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:26:24 PM EDT
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well..im curious if any of you free livin country folk that can shoot your shit at will have actually done any real world ballistic testing.like shooting thru a old fridge or maybe a old car or something of the sort to see the difference in calibers.you see these dudes on the youtube shootin like phonebooks and shit but i dont think that is a real expectation of what a bullet can really do.i recently went to my local cabelas and they like 50 used .40 cal pistols that they said the indiana state police traded in because they were goin back to .45 acp.is a .45 that much better than a .40? With modern bullet design, there is little argument to make in support of one caliber over the others. My guess would be they went back to 45 because they could not handle the 40 caliber rounds. .40 is a little more snappier than 9mm or 45acp. http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/wp-content/uploads/handgun_gel_comparison.jpg somebody cut the 10mm off the bottom of that chartthat someone is the 10mm cut itself right off the button of the chart |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:31:06 PM EDT
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Penetrates 3/8 steel plate (not heat treated) at 50 yards
M193 M855 easily 8mm Mauser pffft like a laser 7.62x54r see above M2 ball |
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Posted: 1/21/2013 9:46:17 PM EDT
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Nothing is a good stopper if you don't hit the boiler room or the CNS. The CNS is the only sure instant stopper. You would be surprised how many rounds a coon can take it you don't hit anything vital.
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Posted: 1/22/2013 9:08:27 AM EDT
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Nothing is a good stopper if you don't hit the boiler room or the CNS. The CNS is the only sure instant stopper. You would be surprised how many rounds a coon can take it you don't hit anything vital. 3 rounds of hornady 45 grain a-max, 1 round of 9mm hydroshok to the head, and a large rock for the coupe de Grau. 
Fuckers are a lot harder to kill than a deer or hog. |
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