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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 12/16/2003 4:08:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2003 5:40:54 AM EDT by DeltaAir423]
well pretty soon the new T-6 Texan II will be coming online and the T-37 Tweety Birds will be mothballed. What would one have to do to accquire an old mothballed T-37?
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 4:14:32 AM EDT
contact the DRMS at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson AZ.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 8:51:26 AM EDT
Some are already in civilian hands... [url]http://www.warbirdalley.com/a37.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 9:07:00 AM EDT
Join the EAA. The warbird side of it has the answers. [url]http://www.eaa.org/[/url] Our local EAA chapter just secured a scrapped T-33 (looks like a P-80) for a static display and we had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it. The Air Force was great and helpful, The EPA was not. I've been a member of the EAA for over twenty years. There isn't a finer aviation organization then this one.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 9:11:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2003 9:11:47 AM EDT by 1776]
Originally Posted By DeltaAir423: well pretty soon the new T-6 Texan II will be coming online
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Randolph AFB here in San Antonio already has some.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 10:15:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DeltaAir423: well pretty soon the new T-6 Texan II will be coming online and the T-37 Tweety Birds will be mothballed. What would one have to do to accquire an old mothballed T-37?
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You're better off going to Easter Eurpoe, and getting a L-39. They've got better performance. Parts are "cheap", and prices on reconditioned aircraft are still reasonable if you know how to haggle.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 10:21:53 AM EDT
I'll take a nice little T-38 for my hangar thank you.
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Link Posted: 12/16/2003 1:05:47 PM EDT
Unless you make the big bucks,forget it.One of my ol'mans fellow Delta pilots toots around in a MiG-21,there were some good pics of him flying with TXANG F-16s.Jack Roush and the guy who plays the Klingon on Star Trek II Ng has an F-86F.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 1:50:42 PM EDT
If it flys, floats, or fucks, its cheaper to rent it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 2:06:56 PM EDT
L39 Any jet is going to be expensive. Might as well get one that you can still FIND spare parts for.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 2:09:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2003 2:21:32 PM EDT by RMac]
Originally Posted By 1776:
Originally Posted By DeltaAir423: well pretty soon the new T-6 Texan II will be coming online
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Randolph AFB here in San Antonio already has some.
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Where can I find some info on the Texan II? Ok, google came up with numerous sites for it. I've seen them doing touch and go's at San Antonio Int'l airport.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 3:48:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RMac:
Originally Posted By 1776:
Originally Posted By DeltaAir423: well pretty soon the new T-6 Texan II will be coming online
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Randolph AFB here in San Antonio already has some.
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Where can I find some info on the Texan II? Ok, google came up with numerous sites for it. I've seen them doing touch and go's at San Antonio Int'l airport.
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[url]http://www.arnold.af.mil/aedc/highmach/2003/Apr17/T6TexanII.htm[/url] [img]http://www.arnold.af.mil/aedc/highmach/2003/Apr17/texan.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 3:58:15 PM EDT
The Texan will also be replacing the Navy's T-34C Turbo Mentor. It's a turboprop not a jet, but has longer legs and I would guess is much cheaper to operate. Might be worth a look if your heart isn't set on a jet.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 6:12:14 PM EDT
There are only 4 FAA registered and flyable T-37's in the USA and they are all ex-USAF birds that were sold to Peru and then sold and imported back into the USA. 66-13618 sold to Peru. To civil registry as N7154W. 66-13620 sold to Peru. To civil registry as N6527M. 56-3515 sold to Peru. To civil registry as N7154Y 56-3580 sold to Peru. To civil registry as N6582G Due to the popularity of this aircraft type there is a real chance that many of the T-37s arriving at AMARC will find a future home with a foreign Air Force. If this does not happen there may be a future for them in the public domain. As the T-37 is not a 'combat' aircraft type which is capable of carrying an armed payload they should be eligible for sale to those members of the public with a big enough wallet to purchase one and operate it! Of course all of this will depend on how many airframe hours are left on these aircraft after their many years in service, but let us hope that a sizeable number of these T-37s survive their time at AMARC and return to the air. Currently there are 113 T-37B's in storage at Davis-Monthan. If you have a spare $100,000 you can buy one. They are former USAF foreign sale imports.
(5) T-37 Dragonflys, Removed from foreign government's inventory, need complete restoration. $100,000 USD in container. http://www.airshow.net/globeaero/
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Link Posted: 12/16/2003 6:34:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dmuldrew: If it flys, floats, or fucks, its cheaper to rent it.
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Someone here has plagerized from 'The gospel according to Piccolo'.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 8:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/16/2003 8:02:37 PM EDT by RobarSR60]
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: L39 Any jet is going to be expensive. Might as well get one that you can still FIND spare parts for.
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And there's an ass-load of them, ready to go, all over Eastern Eurpoe. My friend just brought back 3 from the Ukraine last year. He sold two of them for enough money, that it paid for the third (his), and it's avionics conversion. THAT'S the way to do it...If you've got the money.
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 9:56:23 PM EDT
RobarSR60 - Since I'll be too broke for quite a while...any chance your friend would be up to giving me a ride in his, assuming I make it out to OH or wherever he is? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 10:15:03 PM EDT
... cash
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 12:14:05 AM EDT
There are quite a few A-37's that are in civilian hands here in the USA. A-37A 67-14528 FAA N-number N128RA A-37A 67-14533 FAA N-number N133RA A-37A 67-14534 FAA N-number N134RA A-37A 67-14536 FAA N-number N136RA A-37A 67-14538 FAA N-number N138RA Owned by CONDOR CORP CO ROCHWERGER 2150 W GOOD HOPE RD MILWAUKEE WI 53209 All were formerly T-37B's, built in 1955. A-37A 67-14532 FAA N-number N132RA Owned by ROBERTSON, CONRAD A 3202 E SWEETWATER AVE PHOENIX AZ 85032-6157 Was formerly a T-37B built in 1955. A-37A 67-14535 FAA N-number N3757U Registered to Thunderbird Aviation of Phoenix, AZ. They went tits up about 10 years ago. Probably owned by Paul Allen of Microsoft fame, who bought most of Thunderbird Aviation's military aircraft. Was formerly a T-37B built in 1955. A-37B 69-6381 FAA N-number N 34EA A-37B 67-14794 FAA N-number N237EA Owned by EXECUTIVE AIRCRAFT SERVICES INC 15115 N AIRPORT DR STE 200 SCOTTSDALE AZ 85260-2456 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada and then the USA. A-37B 68-7975 FAA N-number N396WM Owned by OLYMPIC JET INC 7822 HIGHWAY 99 SE OLYMPIA WA 98501 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada and then the USA. Was seized at Canadian border by US Customs officials in 1989 before being sold to National Warplane Museum. Was sold to Olympic Flight Museum, WA. A-37B 71-826 FAA N-number N496WM Owned by NATIONAL WARPLANE MUSEUM INC 17 AVIATION DR HORSEHEADS NY 14845-1102 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada, sold, then seized by US Customs officials at US-Canadian border in 1989. Now at National Warplane Museum, Genesco, NY. A-37A 67-14510 FAA N-number N91RW Owned by LONE STAR FLT MUSEUM / JRMC INC 4601 MURVIHILL RD VALPARAISO IN 46383-6957 Fuselage stored at Falcon Field, Mesa, AZ Was formerly a T-37B built in 1955. A-37B 73-1111 FAA N-number N11918 A-37B 73-1066 NAA N-number N9639Y Owned by DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY 6703 W HIGHWAY 98 PANAMA CITY FL 32407-7000 Converted to OA-37B Possibly sold to Peru in 1992, sold and imported into USA. A-37B 69-6439 FAA N-number N437B Owned by SMITH, JAMES E 2525 TRUMBLE CREEK RD KALISPELL MT 59901-6715 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada and then the USA. A-37B 71-832 FAA N-number N832JB Owned by BARNEY, JULIUS C 11214 SW 125TH PL MIAMI FL 33186-4929 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada and then the USA. A-37B 68-7921 FAA N-number N87921 Owned by LARGAY, CHARLES E JR 9401 NW 106TH ST STE 101 MIAMI FL 33178-1241 Sold to South Vietnam, sold and imported into Canada and then the USA.
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 5:33:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/17/2003 5:34:46 AM EDT by DeltaAir423]
Guys I love this info you've come up with. Now if I can only talk to some of the pilots at work we might be able to strike a deal. Maintenance wouldn't be too much of a problem I'm an A&P studying up for my IA test. If we could get a fractional ownership started, I would be in hog heaven!!!!!!!! Edited to add this kinda sucks I have to work tonight, or I would be up in Kill Devil Hills right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 5:51:07 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/17/2003 6:33:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle: RobarSR60 - Since I'll be too broke for quite a while...any chance your friend would be up to giving me a ride in his, [:D]
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As long as you come up with the $600 to fill the gas tank, he'll give you a ride.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 5:39:57 AM EDT
you history buffs might be interested in this story [url]http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104066[/url]
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 6:06:00 AM EDT
[url=http://www.l39.com/For%20Sale.htm]Here[/url] are just a handful of Aero Vodochody L-39 Albatros jets for sale in the US. In my estimation, this is the cleanest way to get into the jet warbird arena. There's even an exhibition racing class for L-39s at Reno, although the future of this particular feature is apparently uncertain. [hijack] I want an ejection seat office chair! A couple of years ago, [url=www.sovietski.com]Sovietski[/url] had ex-B-52 ejection seats for $1500 mounted on a skid, or like $1800 on a pneumatic office chair base. They're all gone now. Darn near impossible to get ejection seats now for anything less that $5K. [/hijack] - Sorry, [b]DeltaAir423[/b]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 4:03:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2003 4:05:46 AM EDT by Early-Chow-Recruit]
Have you looked at the Pilatus PC-21 ? I believe they are certificated normal catagory, glass cockpit, +9, -7 g's, .82 mach @ FL390. I currently fly a PC-12 and the quality of workmanship is incredible. http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/3_training_aircraft/frameset_pc21.htm
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 4:18:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2003 4:19:11 AM EDT by captainpooby]
Originally Posted By Early-Chow-Recruit: Have you looked at the Pilatus PC-21 ? I believe they are certificated normal catagory, glass cockpit, +9, -7 g's, .82 mach @ FL390. I currently fly a PC-12 and the quality of workmanship is incredible. http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/3_training_aircraft/frameset_pc21.htm
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I agree the, the planes are flawlessly put together. The turbo-porter..........works, but is fragile and ugly.
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