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Posted: 6/9/2002 9:07:17 AM EDT
I know you can mount a pre-ban upper to a pre-ban lower only. I am wondering if you can buy or possess a pre-ban upper even you don't own a pre-ban lower. I am going to order a pre-ban upper. This upper is going to be sent to a gunsmith to remove its pre-ban features (bayonet lug and FS) cause I only have a post-ban lower. During the transition time (before the pre-ban features are totally removed), any illegal issue I will be encountered. thanks.
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 9:09:57 AM EDT
This doesn't directly answer you rquestion, but I would error on the conservative side.. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=120971[/url]
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 9:19:40 AM EDT
As long as you are not planning on inviting Federal agents to your house for a search, you'll be fine.
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 9:50:52 AM EDT
And posting on an interent forum that you are planning on owning an [b]ILLEGAL[/b] item is a good way to stay off their radar. Let the gunsmith order the item and do the gelding for you. THEN take possession of it... Scott P.S. Not being harsh. Just trying to steer you in the right direction to do it legally. Your question should have been phrased "How do I legally get a normal upper turned into a gelded upper for my gelded lower?"
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 9:58:01 AM EDT
thanks. I guess the best way is to have the upper shipped to a local gunsmith to get the modifications. thanks.
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 10:07:26 AM EDT
If you are ordering the upper anyway, why not just order a post ban upper. Seems to me that would stop alot of the hassle and be cheaper than having a 'smith operate on a preban
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 10:15:14 AM EDT
hold on, I still have a question for you. IMHO, the legalities depends on the combination of the upper and the lower. If you have a single shot lower (no mag well, only take one round at a time), the pre-ban upper is perfectly legal to mount on such lower because this rifle is not a semi-auto rifle. The thing I don't undersatnd is the upper itself is not considered as a firearm (unlike DIAS or auto sear, they are registered as a machine gun). why bother to possess?? I just wanted to how the lawmakers think it makes sense. thanks
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 3:30:55 PM EDT
Your thinking too hard. just buy the upper. if you insist on emasculating it do that also. The spirit of the AW ban was to make civilian possesion of AR's illegal. The quacks tried to pick apart the features on the AR 15 in an effort to ban the weapon. But manufacturers skirted the ban by removing a few features. Nobody (except some of the "pass more laws that i can obsess on" members of this site) really cares about flash hiders and bayo studs. I've had a handfull of run-ins with law enforcement while in possesion of my AR. And not one of those incidents included a request to verify pre ban status. JUST MY OPINION.
Link Posted: 6/9/2002 11:06:01 PM EDT
wengv, If you own a lower which the "preban" upper can legally be fitted to, then you shouldn't have any problems. If you only have a standard, "postban" lower, then possession of both the "postban" lower and the "preban" upper would constitute a violation of the law. markm is being trollish. You should disregard any advice he gives you.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 5:35:52 AM EDT
thank Dave_G. I think the "act" makes people violate the law. Say I wanted to rob a bank, as long as I did not put to the action, my intention means nothing, right. If I put the post-ban lower and pre-ban upper together, I will violate the law because I "make" an illegal setup. I should be right if I don't do that, right. I am so confused now.
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 7:48:59 AM EDT
It seems to me that it would be a lot easier and cheaper to simply order a post-ban upper. I would think that it would save you a lot of hassel if you just bought a post ban straight out. Is there a reason you want an emasculated pre-ban? Or is this just one of those questions you were curious about but had no intention of actually doing?
Link Posted: 6/10/2002 5:36:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wengv: thank Dave_G. I think the "act" makes people violate the law. Say I wanted to rob a bank, as long as I did not put to the action, my intention means nothing, right. If I put the post-ban lower and pre-ban upper together, I will violate the law because I "make" an illegal setup. I should be right if I don't do that, right. I am so confused now.
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Look at my post above.
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