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Posted: 11/18/2008 11:24:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:25:25 AM EDT by Journy]
I was looking at the log for my wifi, and today someone connected at 9am, with a computer named "Homework 2575cd"

I disconnected my wifi when i saw this, 2 hours after the fact but wtf... i live in the god damn country... never expected this. i have 2 neighbors in 200 feet of my router, so its either one of them, or someone thats parking out on the road at 9 AM...

There was a thread with software to monitor this shit the other day...

anyone know anything about the software i should use to monitor this shit?

Id like to find more information out on this kid and then go tell his mom and dad.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:25:58 AM EDT
Why not just turn on WEP encryption and only allow verified MAC addresses to connect to your wifi router?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:26:38 AM EDT
Tell them that he's stealing all your internets... Why not secure your router so that this isn't a problem?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:26:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:27:12 AM EDT by Avenger069]
Go to your router's configuration and use WPA2 and a strong key.  Heck, even plain WEP will most likely keep them out.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:27:56 AM EDT
Just secure your network - it's easy.  Beats getting all bent out of shape over it.  
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:27:57 AM EDT
Unsecured wifi for the fail.

Secure that shit, man!
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:29:03 AM EDT
Okay, but my aircard is broken, please man, I need to get online.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:30:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
Why not just turn on WEP encryption and only allow verified MAC addresses to connect to your wifi router?


+1

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:34:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 11:35:59 AM EDT by Journy]
How do I enable the WEP (eta, i know i can enable it in the router  but how do i set it up with all my computers that i want connected?), how do i keep all the computers that i have connected right now, still connected and not blocked?


Ive never used encryption before. hence my no knowledge.

another eta-..


What if i had the guys MAC address? what can i do with that?
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:35:39 AM EDT
Dang, I read "wife" instead of "wifi".

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:36:28 AM EDT
My I phone tries to connect to every Wi-Fi as I drive around.  Gotta protect your stuff.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:38:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Dang, I read "wife" instead of "wifi".



Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:38:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Dang, I read "wife" instead of "wifi".




Holy shit.. I thought the same thing. I was thinking someone is going to be in deep shit. LOL
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:40:09 AM EDT
If you left your wifi unsecured, you're just asking for someone to connect to it.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:40:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
Unsecured wifi for the fail.

Secure that shit, man!


+1
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:42:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Luke77:
If you left your wifi unsecured, you're just asking for someone to connect to it.



+1
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:43:46 AM EDT
Packet sniff his credit card info and send a box full of gay sex toys to his address.  Do it on a Friday and opt for overnight delivery so it arrives Saturday when the wife is home.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:43:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Journy:
How do I enable the WEP (eta, i know i can enable it in the router  but how do i set it up with all my computers that i want connected?), how do i keep all the computers that i have connected right now, still connected and not blocked?


Ive never used encryption before. hence my no knowledge.

another eta-..


What if i had the guys MAC address? what can i do with that?



not a techie but I have a router .....when you secure the router the other computers will prompt you for the passcode
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:44:06 AM EDT
+++ on securing your network.

If you leave your front door unlocked, don't get pissed at the people who walk right in.



If he was on your network, you should be able to get his IP address. Then in your settings block that IP from your network.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:46:52 AM EDT
at least someone wasn't connecting with your wifey
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:47:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:48:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gazukull:
Originally Posted By Luke77:
If you left your wifi unsecured, you're just asking for someone to connect to it.



+1


i live on 5 acres cmon. never expected this, hell i barely get good wireless connectivity in the house, didnt expect the neighbors too.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:48:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:52:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Journy:
How do I enable the WEP


Dude, seriously. This isn't a subject that is hard to find info on. It would take a long time for someone to type out detailed instructions when you could just google your router brand + secure + wifi.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 11:55:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Luke77:
If you left your wifi unsecured, you're just asking for someone to connect to it.


Very literally, in fact.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:54:41 PM EDT
Time to have some fun with a squid server.  Redirect all of his web requests to tubgirl and gay pr0n.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 12:56:45 PM EDT
Most wifi connections have a VERY short radius, so it had to be someone parked near your house.

But yea, secure that shit man. I live in a subdivision, and everyone has their locked down,
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:04:30 PM EDT
you are pissed b/c someone connected to your unsecured router?

HILARIOUS.

For fun, I like to put up another wireless router and let people connect to it, and sniff their passwords, its lead to some INTERESTING materials to say the least.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:05:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stonerriflefan44:
+++ on securing your network.

If you leave your front door unlocked, don't get pissed at the people who walk right in.



If he was on your network, you should be able to get his IP address. Then in your settings block that IP from your network.


If he was on your network, your network DHCP likely assigned him that IP address. How/why would you block it?

If you have the MAC address, you could block it, or better yet, only allow your own MAC addresses.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:05:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stonerriflefan44:
+++ on securing your network.

If you leave your front door unlocked, don't get pissed at the people who walk right in.



If he was on your network, you should be able to get his IP address. Then in your settings block that IP from your network.


That makes no sense, if the bad guy connected to the OPs network. The OPs network would assign the intruder a local IP address, and it would change every time he connected assuming its running DHCP.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:07:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Vasiliy:
Most wifi connections have a VERY short radius, so it had to be someone parked near your house.

But yea, secure that shit man. I live in a subdivision, and everyone has their locked down,


i am 175 feet from the road, my neighbor is about 170-200 feet away, and another guy lives across the street about 250 feet away.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:11:48 PM EDT
If it's not secured by encryption––tough!

It's not like they're accessing your computer, they can't, unless it's on and they're a very, very sophisticated hacker.  They're only using your internet, most likely from your hot-spot which they found.

The can however download all sorts of stuff to your IP address, like child porn, copyright protected stuff (movies, games, etc.)––so if you get a letter from one of these companies demading royalties, you know how it happened.

It all downloads to your IP address, even though it's going to a lap-top sitting at the curb.  And there's no way of finding out what sites were visited, unless you wireles has a program constantly running with your computer to log the IP addresses accessed.

So I'd encrypt it and fast.
But encryption don't work worth squat either.
I can log onto Thepiratebay.com and download an encryption breaker in two minutes, then be into your wirless and onto the internet in another five.

So it's best you turn it off completely when you are not using the system.

T
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:14:00 PM EDT
There's a real good chance that Windows - especially if they have Vista - connected your neighbor automatically and that he does'nt even know about it. PC's do all kinds of things behind our backs...
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:16:01 PM EDT
I think your wireless signal was trespassing.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:17:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2008 1:26:32 PM EDT by xLucidx]
Originally Posted By Maryland_Shooter:
Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
Why not just turn on WEP encryption and only allow verified MAC addresses to connect to your wifi router?


+1



FAIL

any half tech savvy person knows WEP has been broken for a while
WPA2 is the way to go



oh yea, this guy is an idiot

Originally Posted By Takezo:
If it's not secured by encryption––tough!

It's not like they're accessing your computer, they can't, unless it's on and they're a very, very sophisticated hacker.  They're only using your internet, most likely from your hot-spot which they found.

The can however download all sorts of stuff to your IP address, like child porn, copyright protected stuff (movies, games, etc.)––so if you get a letter from one of these companies demading royalties, you know how it happened.

It all downloads to your IP address, even though it's going to a lap-top sitting at the curb.  And there's no way of finding out what sites were visited, unless you wireles has a program constantly running with your computer to log the IP addresses accessed.

So I'd encrypt it and fast.
But encryption don't work worth squat either.
I can log onto Thepiratebay.com and download an encryption breaker in two minutes, then be into your wirless and onto the internet in another five.

So it's best you turn it off completely when you are not using the system.

T



yes your computer has to be on, but if im on the same network as you, or 0 hops away
your computer = belong to me.
shit you dont even have to be connected to your network to watch the traffic.
google Wireshark. Set your wireless device in promiscuous mode (passive)
and capture the traffic on the network in raw form. Thats any information you send thats not from a secure site.
and THAT isnt even being connected to your network.

as for the "encryption breaker"
thats half true. you cant just go download it click 3 buttons and crack the wep key.
but there are a few ways to crack wep, and it dosent take long at all to do it.

I actually have to give a 20 minute presentation on wireless security for a telecommunications class this week
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:26:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stonerriflefan44:
+++ on securing your network.

If you leave your front door unlocked, don't get pissed at the people who walk right in.


Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:29:17 PM EDT
Don't even bother with WEP.  Most routers come with WPA2, go with that.  If you are determined enough, you can find plenty of tools online that will hack a WEP key in less than 5 minutes.  Better safe than sorry, go with WPA2.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:31:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
Why not just turn on WEP encryption and only allow verified MAC addresses to connect to your wifi router?



simple solution to a simple problem.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:34:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stonerriflefan44:
+++ on securing your network.

If you leave your front door unlocked, don't get pissed at the people who walk right in.



If he was on your network, you should be able to get his IP address. Then in your settings block that IP from your network.



More like when you leave your front door open and run an add. on the radio broadcasting your address and inviting anyone come on by.

Just enable WEP.

select a password.

When any of your computers tries to connect "like when you turn them on" it'll prompt you for the password.


when you have friends over they can connect too. just give them the password.



This wont stop someone who really wants in... but it will stop anyone that doesn't want to work for it.  Just like a lock on your door.  You're still broadcasting your address and inviting people to come by but when they get there you ask for the key.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:38:16 PM EDT
Someone in my in my vicinity has a network named Fellatio

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 1:52:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Journy:
I was looking at the log for my wifi, and today someone connected at 9am, with a computer named "Homework 2575cd"

I disconnected my wifi when i saw this, 2 hours after the fact but wtf... i live in the god damn country... never expected this. i have 2 neighbors in 200 feet of my router, so its either one of them, or someone thats parking out on the road at 9 AM...

There was a thread with software to monitor this shit the other day...

anyone know anything about the software i should use to monitor this shit?

Id like to find more information out on this kid and then go tell his mom and dad.




How do you look at the log for your wifi????

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:07:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By Journy:
How do I enable the WEP (eta, i know i can enable it in the router  but how do i set it up with all my computers that i want connected?), how do i keep all the computers that i have connected right now, still connected and not blocked?


Ive never used encryption before. hence my no knowledge.

another eta-..


What if i had the guys MAC address? what can i do with that?


you could start by reading the instructions that came with your router.



he may not even know he is connecting if his pc is set to auto connect and yours as a better signal.


Yup. In my old development, my router apparently broke. Not sure when, but I was still using the default "Linksys" network name. Then one day, my brother came over, and he was trying to figure out why I only had a couple bars of signal strength. Well, turns out my router was dead. I had been connecting to my neighbor's network for possibly months without realizing it.

Rename your network, and put a password on it.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:07:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Merlin:
Originally Posted By Journy:
I was looking at the log for my wifi, and today someone connected at 9am, with a computer named "Homework 2575cd"

I disconnected my wifi when i saw this, 2 hours after the fact but wtf... i live in the god damn country... never expected this. i have 2 neighbors in 200 feet of my router, so its either one of them, or someone thats parking out on the road at 9 AM...

There was a thread with software to monitor this shit the other day...

anyone know anything about the software i should use to monitor this shit?

Id like to find more information out on this kid and then go tell his mom and dad.




How do you look at the log for your wifi????



Usually routers are set to log. You just log into it and view it. It would be the same IP where you set the security.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:08:48 PM EDT
Sniffer and grab their passwords.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:09:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Luke77:
If you left your wifi wife unsecured, you're just asking for someone to connect to it.


I read it as wife also.  
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:13:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SultanOfBrunei:
I think your wireless signal was trespassing.
Exactly. If my neighbor's unsecured signals are broadcast into my house, I will use them.

Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:16:19 PM EDT
Secure your network if you dont want that.

Being angry at this is like being angry that someone can hear your music is playing.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:16:28 PM EDT
Figure out what IP they have then use Remote Desktop to connect.  Try "Administrator" as the ID and a blank password.

Seriously, type 192.168.1.1 into your web browser and read the screen.  You can rename the network, enable WPA/PSK and set the passphrase to whatever you'd like.  If you're not real friendly with the neighbors, use a phone number as your password––it's unlikely to be easily guessed and easy to remember if you ever have company that wants to connect.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:16:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
Originally Posted By SultanOfBrunei:
I think your wireless signal was trespassing.
Exactly. If my neighbor's unsecured signals are broadcast into my house, I will use them.



He's probably on his neighbor's half the time without realizing it, too.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:18:10 PM EDT
Stop trying to fuck with the other guys shit, you're the moron running an unsecured wireless network and bitching about it.
Link Posted: 11/18/2008 2:18:32 PM EDT
Time to transparent proxy them with a filter that mirrors all images.

Or replaces them with naughty ones.
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