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Posted: 1/20/2015 3:37:40 PM EST
just as keystone is coming up.false flag?
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Jews probably
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:40:02 PM EST
cheap oil corrodes pipelines
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:40:27 PM EST
Entirely too convenient.

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:41:06 PM EST
Probably some leftwing eco terrorist that wanted to make an example.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:41:18 PM EST
its obama's fault.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:41:42 PM EST
Nah, just an inconvenient truth.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:42:02 PM EST
Don't worry, obama is on the job.


He will ban oil.


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Originally Posted By IL2windhawk:
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Yeah, must be that cheap, shitty frac'd oil, everyone knows that shits all full of chemicals.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:43:27 PM EST
My thoughts exactly.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:45:31 PM EST
isn't Montana's governor a democrat?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:47:37 PM EST
They need a reason to up prices so we will get at least a dollar a gallon spike due to this "accident"
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:51:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
Yeah, must be that cheap, shitty frac'd oil, everyone knows that shits all full of chemicals.
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
Originally Posted By IL2windhawk:
cheap oil corrodes pipelines
Yeah, must be that cheap, shitty frac'd oil, everyone knows that shits all full of chemicals.


Umm. Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.
It has quite a bit of H2S in it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 3:59:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:02:20 PM EST
Bushes fault
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I wonder if that will be brought up today during the speech as a reason for needing new safety guidelines/fed oversight.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:04:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.
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ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:06:08 PM EST
Link?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:06:20 PM EST
This is AFRCOM GD

/b/ is over there ------->
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:07:03 PM EST
Damn that was post 17000
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You're expecting far too much from a gene5 thread.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:10:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gene5:

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
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Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?

they do with smart PIGs. I would guess that it burst because of human error or malice.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:19:03 PM EST
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:23:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!
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or, another way to put it -

.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.


Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:26:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Whizzinator:
or, another way to put it -

.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.


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Originally Posted By Whizzinator:
Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!
or, another way to put it -

.....an oil spill equivalent to or less than the amount the average Harley will leak in its lifetime.




Better start a new thread for that ish
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:29:45 PM EST
It's Billings dude. Just spread it out on some dirt roads.
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Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!
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I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:32:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By turningfinal:


I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
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Originally Posted By turningfinal:
Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!


I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....

they say it already has.warning people about the drinking water.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:36:03 PM EST
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oil running through pipelines puts a lot of wear and tear on the pipe. failures do happen.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:37:57 PM EST
time to get back on those meds.
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#Blackoilmatters
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Originally Posted By WilliamGray:


Umm. Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.
It has quite a bit of H2S in it.
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Originally Posted By WilliamGray:
Originally Posted By Fullpower:
Originally Posted By IL2windhawk:
cheap oil corrodes pipelines
Yeah, must be that cheap, shitty frac'd oil, everyone knows that shits all full of chemicals.


Umm. Not sure if he was being serious or not, but cheap sour crude does corrode pipelines.
It has quite a bit of H2S in it.

Meh, it's an old pipeline. It has probably seen quite a bit of sour crude.

at all of the people saying it's a convenient timing.

ETA: Link

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:42:29 PM EST
It was because of the GOP and their Bushy McHalliburton Weather machine, wasn't it? Pipeline was weakened by hunters shooting nearby and the lead caused it to corrode externally, while fraking miniquakes caused seals to wear. Big Tobacco was involved some how.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:51:10 PM EST
The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...

Its okay to have those there.

But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:57:56 PM EST
FPNI.
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Originally Posted By gene5:

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
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Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?





Every muther fucking 5 fucking years. (DOT regulation)

Problem is that if the pipeline isn't kept in a state of turbulant flow, water can and does fall out of the oil. Then it settles on the bottom of the pipe at the 6 o'clock position. Water and b/s = bacteria. Bacteria eats the steel of the pipe. Bingo, we have a Leak. The trick is to catch it before it eats a hole all the way thru.

And lets not rule out 3rd party damages. Those are always fun....Not.

I was surprised that there leak detection system caught the leak within 300 barrels. To bad they think they had 900 barrels drained up until they got the block valves shut.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:12:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Lord_Grey_Boots:
The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...

Its okay to have those there.

But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....
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We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.



Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:14:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hawaiinate:
oil running through pipelines puts a lot of wear and tear on the pipe. failures do happen.
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See my post above.


It's keeping internal corrosion at bay is all about the turbulent flow.

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:14:14 PM EST
Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:15:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gene5:

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
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Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
All the time. You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...

Syncrude from Canada has been treated to prolong pipeline life. The crude this pipeline transported wasn't.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:16:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.
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not to mention obama promising to veto any keystone bill that lands on his desk, and thats a promise I suspect he'll keep
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:17:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:


We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.



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Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:
Originally Posted By Lord_Grey_Boots:
The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...

Its okay to have those there.

But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....


We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.



Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:18:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.
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I doubt it. It may delay it further.


That's just IMHO

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Originally Posted By turningfinal:


I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
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Originally Posted By turningfinal:
Originally Posted By mousehunter:
Ok, oil is usually measured in barrels - so this is up to a 1,000 barrel spill. Which is less than a single Eagle ford well will produce a day during it's peak of production. Less than 5 tanker trucks, or a bit more than a single 34,500 gallon DOT-111 tank car (rail).

OH NO!!!!!


I'll wait for your math on how much water this spill can potentially contaminate, considering it's a drinking source for many in the area....
A little activated carbon will soak up that petro smell. It isn't hazardous, it is just ill tasting.
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Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:


I doubt it. It may delay it further.


That's just IMHO

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Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.


I doubt it. It may delay it further.


That's just IMHO

The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:24:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:
Originally Posted By Lord_Grey_Boots:
The area where the Keystone pipeline is to run is already covered with 50-80 year old pipelines built to WW2 era standards...

Its okay to have those there.

But a new pipeline built to the latest standards, by one of the best pipeline companies in the business is bad.....


We still have WW2 bomb pipe in the ground.



Big Inch and Little Inch for starters.


We were just talking about them here.


http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/dob08


Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:25:09 PM EST
Probably couldn't get a permit to routinely maintain/replace the pipe.
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Originally Posted By Nagewaza624:
Originally Posted By TheWenisPrinkle:
Cheap oil will kill Keystone. No spill needed.


I doubt it. It may delay it further.


That's just IMHO

The Canadians have 50+years of reserves, 8 years of a communist in the whitehouse won't stop it.

Pipeline is infrastructure, and cheap over the long term and worth investing in. Oil Exploration and development is the expensive bit that gets held off when oil prices drop.
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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
All the time. You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...

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Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By Rick_NE:
That part of the pipeline is 55 years old, according to the Billings Gazette.

ok doesn't somebody tests these pipes from time to time?
All the time. You try inspecting hundreds of miles of pipe for a single defect...

Syncrude from Canada has been treated to prolong pipeline life. The crude this pipeline transported wasn't.


Do you know what they are treating it with?


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