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Posted: 2/13/2006 9:16:38 AM EDT
according to the brady website. http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=nc#juvsale now can a 12 year old really buy a rifle? i thought it was 18 years old to buy a rifle and 21 to buy a handgun! |
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Give you kid a wad of cash, tell him to buy a rifle.
See what happens. |
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Legally, NO. As a parent, you can buy it for him, and he can shoot it under your supervision.
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Even if it was true, I don't see why that would be such a bad thing. I would hope that if I had a kid, that I would have taught him to be responsible enough to safely handle a firearm on his own by at least age 12.
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In Texas, a minor can purchase or receive a firearm from a private citizen (i.e., not a dealer) as long as he has his parents/legal guardians permission to do so.
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They promised we would see a flood of assault rifles, and the ice cream vendors would sell AK-47s on the street corner I haven't seen any of these Rocky Road AK-47 variants yet |
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Of course. It's to prove their "point" to The Scared People. Don't forget... Diane Feinstein said that the AK-47 was designed so it can be used without aiming. That is also a part of their agenda... misinforming the uninformed. Once they all believe it, we'd be hard-pressed to convince them otherwise. You already know how hard it is trying to discuss 2nd Amendment issues with TSP. Their goal is to convince people of legal flaws or "loopholes" that need to be repaired, and to keep them all scared. For them, it's very emotional. |
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What, he can walk BY one, run BY one..................... Even the dumbass Brady bunch didn't call it an assault rifle. |
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Thery want to delay as long as possible any legal and positive exposure kids will have to firearms. They figure fewer people will be "into" firearms as adults if they can do that. |
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whaaa!! fucking spelling nazis |
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By definition, an "assult rifle" is select-fire.
Under NFA law, your son must be 21 years-old to own one of these. |
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You nailed it. |
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Learn to spell, then the spelling nazis would leave you alone. BY is a completely different word from BUY. |
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Assault rifles and so-called "assault weapons" are 2 different things. There is no such thing as the so-called "assault weapon". It is a term completely fabricated by the antis to demonize our rifles. An assault rifle is, by definition, a select fire, mag fed, intermediate cartridge rifle. Your title said assault rifle. Like I said, even the dumbass Brady bunch did not call it an assault rifle. |
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Larry, There was a guy with a screen name of Ludwigwittgenstein who used to post here. He had a post in the history forum that explained, in detail, how even the term "assault rifle" is a completely fabricated term and thus no official definition exists. I searched his screen name and none of his posts exist any longer, so unfortunately I can't give you a link. ETA: Found some of his last posts on the forums, but the "assault rifle" one doesn't exist any longer. IIRC he posted it in the history forum. |
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I'm disappointed in the Brady Bunch this time... They didn't even try to implicate or inference that dealers are being irresponsible/evil and are willing to sell to a minor.
Definetely not their normal level of quality. |
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Here's a quote from a book I read once. The same info can be found on Wikipedia under the heading "Sturmgewehr". Since the Germans pioneered the weapon type that most knowledgeable shooters call the "assault rifle", and since Sturmgewehr can be loosly translated to "assault rifle", I'll have to consider that to be the most official designation we're going to get for them. The MP43, MP44, and StG44 were names for nearly identical weapons with only small production differences and dates. The last, the StG44, was called "Sturmgewehr", literally, "storm-rifle" (or assault rifle). It combined the traits of submachine guns and automatic rifles. The translation "assault rifle" became very popular to describe this class of weapon. It chambered a shorter version of the standard 7.92 mm rifle round that, in combination with the weapon's design, allowed it to be used like a submachine gun in close quarters but with greater accuracy and range than submachine guns in longer range engagements. However, it had much less range and power than regular rifles of the day; at that time, much of the fighting was taking place at closer ranges such as in towns, cities, and wooded areas. |
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Well, history would disagree with him. See 3rdpig's post below. That is the history of how the term came about. |
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I wish I could find the link to Ludwig's post because he specifically addressed this when he made his claim that there was no such thing as an "assault rifle". I don't remember the specifics of his argument though, so I really can't dispute what you wrote. From what I remember, his argument was compelling. |
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Those 2 words in red are key. Just because he claims or argues something does not make it so. Did he offer any actual evidence? |
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Yes, he did offer evidence. I'm not saying he was necessarily correct (which is why I used those two words you hilighted), just that I remember him having a compelling argument. I have emailed him once before and he responded to me, so I will see if I can dig up his email address again and get him to comment on the issue. It's more out of personal curiosity than anything. It's not my intent to try and prove anyone wrong. |
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I have read about it too many times to believe one guy who disputes it. I have never seen anyone else make that argument. I have seen it argued that "assault weapon" was not a legitimate term, and it isn't, but I have never seen anyone argue that the term assault rifle does not exist. Are you sure he didn't say "assault weapon"? |
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He might have said "assault weapon". This was probably around last October or November that I read it, so it's hard for me to remember the specifics. However, I remember that he specifically discussed the Sturmgewehr argument, and IIRC he said it was wrong, which is why I'm pretty sure he said "assault rifle". I was able to find his email and I've sent one off to him, so we'll see if he responds. |
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Maybe he should take it up with the German army. They are the ones that coined the phrase. Again, HE said it was wrong. I have never seen anyone else make that assertion. Attention whore mabye? |
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Here is an example of the newbie's posts in the women's forum:
And:
And:
More:
Yeah, he really sounds like someone who I lend any credibility to. Sounds like a real asshole who loves to argue and insult. Some of this shit was in his first 30 posts. |
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