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Posted: 10/26/2013 5:54:21 AM EST
I have a 98 tacoma. Back in 2008/9 or so toyota sent out a letter talking about how they had a problem with some frames rusting through and becoming unsafe on these. I took it into a dealer at the time for an inspection and they didn't find any perforation.

five years pass ... I had completely forgot about this until this morning. I was out messing around with the exhaust under the truck and noticed that there's a big ass holes rusted through one of the frame rails along the bottom. I can stick a finger through it.

I went to look up my info and it turns out that I'm just a couple of months past the 98 in-service date. So 15 years plus two months.

FUCK!

If I had noticed this a few months ago I likely would have had toyota offer to buy back the truck at an inflated value. I heard they were giving people a "book" value + 20%, with the truck rated as excellent condition even if it wasn't. That would be like 7-8,000 for this one if true. It's a beater and probably worth parts at this point.

What are my chances of talking toyota into honoring the extended warranty even though it's a couple of months past the date? I'm guessing zero, but we'll see. One of their case managers is supposed to call on Monday.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 5:56:07 AM EST
They did complete frame replacements on many of them. It can''t hurt to ask, they might still have some laying around.

Ask your local dealer. They LOVE recall work, they get a huge check from Toyota for it.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:03:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Luchs:
They did complete frame replacements on many of them. It can''t hurt to ask, they might still have some laying around.

Ask your local dealer. They LOVE recall work, they get a huge check from Toyota for it.
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I agree. Go talk to them in person.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:10:09 AM EST
If it's documented that they checked it, should be on them.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:13:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 3:16:42 PM EST by panzersergeant]
This one came into a dealer for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.



ETA: not sure where this was taken now; I got the pic from my son whose buddy works at a local Toyota dealership.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:14:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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Holy f'ing shit!!!

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Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:14:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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I have a T-100, and it has surface rust and has had body mounts replaced, but holy crap.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:15:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:16:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


I agree. Go talk to them in person.
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By Luchs:
They did complete frame replacements on many of them. It can''t hurt to ask, they might still have some laying around.

Ask your local dealer. They LOVE recall work, they get a huge check from Toyota for it.


I agree. Go talk to them in person.


They replaced my 03 frame, free, included a free rental car, they had it for almost 6 weeks. Took 3 weeks just to get the frame. With 198000 miles on it had them replace the clutch, do a few other things while apart. All new brake lines etc. My only complaint, the rear springs are a bit mushy compared to the original TRD springs. Truck is good to go for another 10 Midwest winters.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:19:56 AM EST
In before the Tacoma bashing?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:22:16 AM EST
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Hey, if you don't count the frame falling out of the truck, they're great vehicles.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:23:03 AM EST
Meh - Just ignore it.



It'll probably be fine.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:26:33 AM EST
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:26:51 AM EST
Got 11,000 for our Taco.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:28:12 AM EST
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To be fair, this is what a Dodge Ram of the same age looks like after that many years of northeast road salt.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:30:05 AM EST
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if I'd have been more attentive and caught this earlier in the year


Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:31:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for requiring maintenance every 5,000 miles.


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FIFY
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:31:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By blk00ss:
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This

I wouldn't take no for an answer.

I had new rotors thrown on my Tundra for free after they checked and said everything was fine and I found a recall. I was out of the service date as well.

People like to shit on guys for using the dealership but right here is where it might just save your ass.

Documentation baby...
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:33:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


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The new ones are perfect. Haven't heard a single complaint about any failures.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:33:53 AM EST
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id kick myself for buying a toyota, twice.


Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:37:01 AM EST
I just noticed some bubble on my 4runner's rocker and poked it to see how soft it was. Finger went straight through.

Drive it til the wheels fall off.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:40:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By dog-meat:
I have a 98 tacoma. Back in 2008/9 or so toyota sent out a letter talking about how they had a problem with some frames rusting through and becoming unsafe on these. I took it into a dealer at the time for an inspection and they didn't find any perforation.

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I took mine in during that time (December of '10 to be exact) and they cleaned and treated my frame with a sealer. Did they not do this with your truck?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:42:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
I took mine in during that time (December of '10 to be exact) and they cleaned and treated my frame with a sealer. Did they not do this with your truck?
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Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Originally Posted By dog-meat:
I have a 98 tacoma. Back in 2008/9 or so toyota sent out a letter talking about how they had a problem with some frames rusting through and becoming unsafe on these. I took it into a dealer at the time for an inspection and they didn't find any perforation.

I took mine in during that time (December of '10 to be exact) and they cleaned and treated my frame with a sealer. Did they not do this with your truck?


I took it in for the inspection right after the letter came out (I think it was late 2008 or early 2009). They said they didn't detect any frame rust and that was it. I don't recall any talk of applying a sealer.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:42:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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Holy shit
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:48:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg
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want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you Ford for stopping making the Ranger
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:53:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


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Nice Mazda
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:56:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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The rear fell off!!!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 6:58:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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Damn.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:03:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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lol!!!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:10:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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oh snap.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:18:36 AM EST
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oh snap.
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Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg

oh snap.
I cannot believe they are going to fix that. There has to be additional damage beyond the frame.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:21:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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JUST WOW!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:25:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NUCdt04:



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you MAZDA for stopping making the Ranger
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Originally Posted By NUCdt04:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you MAZDA for stopping making the Ranger

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:27:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg
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Good lord, what "weight" oil are you guys using







Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:27:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

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lol
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:30:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


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That's because they aint on the road long enough to oxidize.

My father in law had a beat to fuck taco with a ton of miles. He might've got two or three grand for it if he found the right sucker. Ended up with some rot in the frame, brought it into a dealer. They put it up on a lift and whacked the rusted spot with a hammer. *pow*, right through.

I think they gave him like nine grand for the truck, and they let him take it home and strip everything off it he wanted. Radio, cap, tires, I think running boards... "We don't care, we're just going to crush it." It just had to get there under it's own power, so he turned up some dented to fuck rims with some tires worn to the bands, and there it went.

So he went out and bought another taco in the same general age range but in far better shape, and dropped his tires, cap, etc on that one.

Best resolution to a recall I've ever heard of!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:31:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

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Is that really your picture? I saw it a couple weeks ago on 9gag.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:32:54 AM EST
I love Toyota dump trucks.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:40:32 AM EST
They only do (or did) buybacks on the pre 2001 Tacos.

Replacement frames were only on 2001-2004 models.


gor here for more info
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:41:45 AM EST
tag
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:42:56 AM EST
A friend of ours had a Tacoma that had the frame rot. Toyota gave them $$$ and they wound up getting a Matrix.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:46:02 AM EST
if BHO had a truck...............
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:53:00 AM EST
Im a service advisor at I Toyota dealer, actually at work right now. Toyota will work with you. I have seen them help out customers farther out of warranty/warranty extension than that. Ive seen them pay for several thousands in cylinder head repairs for a vehicle that was out of powertrain warranty by about 30,000 miles.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 7:54:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Luchs:


To be fair, this is what a Dodge Ram of the same age looks like after that many years of northeast road salt.

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Originally Posted By JohnAC:
In before the Tacoma bashing?


To be fair, this is what a Dodge Ram of the same age looks like after that many years of northeast road salt.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u7N3xyzXV0E/TcN0bOuhQ9I/AAAAAAAADQU/YlfVqcTucsw/s1600/IMG_5320.jpg





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The rear fell off!!!
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/toybent_zps4e051b43.jpg



The rear fell off!!!


Your perspective is all wrong, fact is the front fell off.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:10:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By seanvi:
Im a service advisor at I Toyota dealer, actually at work right now. Toyota will work with you. I have seen them help out customers farther out of warranty/warranty extension than that. Ive seen them pay for several thousands in cylinder head repairs for a vehicle that was out of powertrain warranty by about 30,000 miles.
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Glad to hear it. I'll update the thread with the outcome of my conversation with them on Monday.

If they let me take advantage of the rust warranty extension despite being a couple of months out I'll be buying a brand new taco asap (assuming this one can't be repaired, which I would guess will be the case it's looking bad).

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:20:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
This one came into our local dealer the other day for an oil change. The rusted frame gave way during the service. Toyota is paying the dealer $8000 to replace the frame. It is an ongoing issue with these vehicles. Not sure of the year but I'd say early to mid 2000s.

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FIFY
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Originally Posted By SquatchHunter:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for requiring maintenance every 5,000 miles.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg


FIFY


nope....other than oil changes and scheduled maintenance .....nothing........oops forgot, set of front brakes at 80k.
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Originally Posted By NUCdt04:



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you Ford for stopping making the Ranger
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Originally Posted By NUCdt04:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you Ford for stopping making the Ranger


Ford didnt stop making the ranger. They just stopped selling it in the US and Canada. They were afraid the new body style would take away from their beloved F150 sales. Sad they wouldnt sell them here. Not everyone who uses a truck needs a full size.

Heres what it looks like now.

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Ford didnt stop making the ranger. They just stopped selling it in the US and Canada. They were afraid the new body style would take away from their beloved F150 sales. Sad they wouldnt sell them here. Not everyone who uses a truck needs a full size.

Heres what it looks like now.
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Originally Posted By Rob940:
Originally Posted By NUCdt04:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you Ford for stopping making the Ranger


Ford didnt stop making the ranger. They just stopped selling it in the US and Canada. They were afraid the new body style would take away from their beloved F150 sales. Sad they wouldnt sell them here. Not everyone who uses a truck needs a full size.

Heres what it looks like now.
http://citystaug450.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2014-ford-ranger-interior-high-definition-m01wqlsr.jpg


Can't really tell, but it looks like the Ranger got infected with the same bug the Taco is suffering from. Gigantism.

I just don't understand why the smaller pickup market has gone the way it has.
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Originally Posted By Rob940:


Ford didnt stop making the ranger. They just stopped selling it in the US and Canada. They were afraid the new body style would take away from their beloved F150 sales. Sad they wouldnt sell them here. Not everyone who uses a truck needs a full size.

Heres what it looks like now.
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Originally Posted By Rob940:
Originally Posted By NUCdt04:
Originally Posted By panzersergeant:
Let me save this thread with a pic of a truck known far and wide for it's frames NOT rusting out.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v197/panzersergeant/010.jpg



want me to crawl under my 01 that is rusted and cracking?


taco next for me - sucks for you Ford for stopping making the Ranger


Ford didnt stop making the ranger. They just stopped selling it in the US and Canada. They were afraid the new body style would take away from their beloved F150 sales. Sad they wouldnt sell them here. Not everyone who uses a truck needs a full size.

Heres what it looks like now.
http://citystaug450.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2014-ford-ranger-interior-high-definition-m01wqlsr.jpg

thats not a ranger.
This is a ranger.

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