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Posted: 11/2/2015 11:45:54 PM EDT
Had a question, is there that much of a market for Sword Fish? They sure seemed to be intent on catching that particular species. Really how many are consumed by the US market in a year?
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:00:18 AM EDT
Swordfish consumption in the United states

Also Boston Sword and Tuna has a FB page. The owner Tim is a nice guys and posts some cool stuff. We used to sell tuna to him.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:06:58 AM EDT
Commercial fisherman want to catch whatever will make them the most $$ per pound as allowed by law, so long as they're equipped for such fishing.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 9:09:29 AM EDT
One of the guys on my job was on that helicopter.


Very humbling to talk to him.
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Next time you see him shake his hand for me will you?  You have to be able to hear them walk down the street with all that clacking going on..........
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:42:43 PM EDT
I only watch that movie until they see the storm ahead.  Too depressing after that. The book was awesome though.

BTW, all of the fish shown are fake. From IMDB:

None of the fish in the movie were real, they were all either rubber (dead fish) or animatronic (alive fish). The director, Wolfgang Petersen, is an animal rights supporter.
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I only watch that movie until they see the storm ahead.  Too depressing after that. The book was awesome though.

BTW, all of the fish shown are fake. From IMDB:



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I only watch that movie until they see the storm ahead.  Too depressing after that. The book was awesome though.

BTW, all of the fish shown are fake. From IMDB:

None of the fish in the movie were real, they were all either rubber (dead fish) or animatronic (alive fish). The director, Wolfgang Petersen, is an animal rights supporter.



Yeah, I mentioned that to the family last night while we were watching it.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:49:03 PM EDT
Atlantic City casino's always seemed to have swordfish in their buffet's.
It seemed rather tasteless to me.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:59:58 PM EDT
I neflixed "Wicked Tuna" a while back, the fish they caught were Huge! They said the biggest are worth 15-20,000 dollars each Dangerous profession but it pays if you know your stuff apparently.

eta- opps u said Sword fish not tuna Same risks thou I bet
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The tuna don't stab you.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:09:28 PM EDT
Swordfish is delicious. There is huge demand for it. Mako (shark) tastes VERY similar, because of this, it (mako) is often sold as swordfish. You may have eaten a mako, and not even known it.
  The fact that they are caught in the same places, by the same methods, can't hurt. The first mako I ever caught had a Japanese longliners hook in it's stomach , when we butchered it. I've still got it.
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 Forget everything you saw on "wicked tuna" as far as finances. The average fish is lucky to fetch 3 to 5 k. If it costs you $1300 to go out every time, ( fuel/ bait/ ice/ food/ terminal tackle/ etc ) and you only catch every 3rd or 4th trip, well, you do the math....
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We'd get excited about whatever we're after. They worked on a long liner, thats what they did. They cant really just switch over to dragging, gill netting, or lobstering on a whim.

I was a lobsterman, we caught plenty of crabs and fish but we targeted lobsters. Everything else is just considered a bycatch

The thought of a thousand pounds of lobsters  still gets me giddy.

Its been a few months since my last trip I hate school
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:23:04 PM EDT
Lost two friends who were halibut fishing in Alaska.

One washed up in a net about a month later and the other was never found.

Fishing is dangerous, no doubt about it.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:27:03 PM EDT
Tastes like steak to me.
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Yep. Mako is a bit milder.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:41:07 PM EDT
On a side note, I've been to Gloucester, MA and have stayed in one of the rooms above the crow's nest bar. It's a fun little town. We went whale watching, drank beer at cape Ann brewery, and saw them shooting an episode of wicked tuna.


I have never eaten swordfish.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 7:53:36 PM EDT
Odd timing for this post, was on a 90' longliner yesterday docked next to the CG ship that rescued the Hilo crew that crashed in the ordeal
She was rotting away tied up

To answer the OP, swordfish was over fished during the books setting.....very common back theb....species is making a return today.  So it is more common on menus
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Me too. Small world.
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eta- opps u said Sword fish not tuna Same risks thou I bet


The tuna don't stab you.


Good point But the sea, she is a cruel mistress
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:12:54 PM EDT
I've been out on a sword boat that had no business calling itself a sword boat - it was far too small to efficiently harvest them offshore. Once the sea kicked up all I could think about was that book. Haven't been out sword or tuna fishing since, and that was five years ago

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Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:13:29 PM EDT
"My little boy isn't going to like this" at the very end of the movie (haven't seen it in years, I think this is what he says) is chilling.
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Don't be a pussy! Go get your tuna!
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 "This is gonna be hard on my little boy" .
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:22:39 PM EDT

I loves me some swordfish, but it's damn expensive these days. There's also the question of mercury contamination. The EPA advises pregnant wimmenz not to eat swordfish as they have higher levels of mercury.  




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I like it. It's been a while since I've bought it, but this thread has me thinking about
tomorrows dinner plan, and I'm leaning towards this:



Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:34:43 PM EDT
Good fish if done well.  Remarkably similar to shark that I had recently.  Book was better.
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 "This is gonna be hard on my little boy" .


I taught one of the sons in HS.  Sad to say but he was messed up.  Is mom was just as bad off.  I can only imagine...
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 10:17:13 PM EDT
yeah the book was great!
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Link Posted: 11/3/2015 10:31:05 PM EDT
There's swordfish, and then there's pumpkin swordfish.......
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 10:46:05 PM EDT
I find that most of the time that the original books are better then a movie version. There are a couple exceptions like the Godfather.

Swordfish is great grilled with a bit of lemon, butter, sometimes basil.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 10:51:38 PM EDT
If there's swordfish on a menu here, I order it.  (Unless there's wahoo )
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 10:52:17 PM EDT
I need to rewatch that movie
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Buffet swordfish, there's your problem. It's close to impossible to make buffet seafood edible.
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Don't be a pussy! Go get your tuna!

In 2009 I helped reel in a bluefin while on a friend's boat. It took over two hours.

My buddy and I took turns on the reel, switching off every few minutes. Just when we thought we were getting close, the damn thing would take off and almost empty the reel. It was crazy.

Those bastards can fight

ETA: Lots of respect to the folks who do it for a living. Certainly wouldn't be my preferred way to earn a paycheck.




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We'd get excited about whatever we're after. They worked on a long liner, thats what they did. They cant really just switch over to dragging, gill netting, or lobstering on a whim.

I was a lobsterman, we caught plenty of crabs and fish but we targeted lobsters. Everything else is just considered a bycatch

The thought of a thousand pounds of lobsters  still gets me giddy.

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So what sort of life boat or raft or bailout bags are carried on fishing trawlers or could be personally taken aboard by crew?

I'm guessing they need life vests but do most boats carry an unsinkable raft or dinghy like a Portland Pudgyhttp://www.portlandpudgy.com/ ?

How about even a cheap 2 man rubber raft you can buy at walmart? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Sevylor-Specialists-Two-Person-Inflatable-Boat/10928134

I mean, you could stow the raft in your dry bag and forget about it but faced with the threat of capsizing wouldn't it give you just that much more chance of survival? For $20 wouldn't you even think about it? I would.

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I'm guessing they need life vests but do most boats carry an unsinkable raft or dinghy like a Portland Pudgyhttp://www.portlandpudgy.com/ ?

How about even a cheap 2 man rubber raft you can buy at walmart? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Sevylor-Specialists-Two-Person-Inflatable-Boat/10928134

I mean, you could stow the raft in your dry bag and forget about it but faced with the threat of capsizing wouldn't it give you just that much more chance of survival? For $20 wouldn't you even think about it? I would.

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Survival suits, float free lift rafts, epirbs are all required by the Coast Guard on commercial boats. Life vests are required also but type and style differs.
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 1:05:24 AM EDT
I'm torn between George Clooney sinking to the bottom of the sea, and Tim Robbins' head freezing solid and floating into space as my favorite movie scenes.
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We'd get excited about whatever we're after. They worked on a long liner, thats what they did. They cant really just switch over to dragging, gill netting, or lobstering on a whim.

I was a lobsterman, we caught plenty of crabs and fish but we targeted lobsters. Everything else is just considered a bycatch

The thought of a thousand pounds of lobsters  still gets me giddy.

Its been a few months since my last trip I hate school


Did you ever catch wolffish?

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Maybe a smaller one. The funnels wont allow anything much bigger than an 8lbs lobster. And if its not something we can sell or want to eat we throw it over pretty quick. There isnt much time to dick around when hawling 3-500 traps a day.

Lots of sea bass, cod, hake, and in ten years a couple dozen sea horses and 2 octopuses.
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So what sort of life boat or raft or bailout bags are carried on fishing trawlers or could be personally taken aboard by crew?

I'm guessing they need life vests but do most boats carry an unsinkable raft or dinghy like a Portland Pudgyhttp://www.portlandpudgy.com/ ?

How about even a cheap 2 man rubber raft you can buy at walmart? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Sevylor-Specialists-Two-Person-Inflatable-Boat/10928134

I mean, you could stow the raft in your dry bag and forget about it but faced with the threat of capsizing wouldn't it give you just that much more chance of survival? For $20 wouldn't you even think about it? I would.



Survival suits, float free lift rafts, epirbs are all required by the Coast Guard on commercial boats. Life vests are required also but type and style differs.


And none of that will do much good if you're stuck inside the vessel.
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In 2009 I helped reel in a bluefin while on a friend's boat. It took over two hours.

My buddy and I took turns on the reel, switching off every few minutes. Just when we thought we were getting close, the damn thing would take off and almost empty the reel. It was crazy.

Those bastards can fight

ETA: Lots of respect to the folks who do it for a living. Certainly wouldn't be my preferred way to earn a paycheck.




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Don't be a pussy! Go get your tuna!

In 2009 I helped reel in a bluefin while on a friend's boat. It took over two hours.

My buddy and I took turns on the reel, switching off every few minutes. Just when we thought we were getting close, the damn thing would take off and almost empty the reel. It was crazy.

Those bastards can fight

ETA: Lots of respect to the folks who do it for a living. Certainly wouldn't be my preferred way to earn a paycheck.






 Yeah, they'll kick your ass for sure.
Nobody makes a living on bft sales. They make most of their income on groundfish, and charters. Tuna are a small part of the pie.
  The saying goes Commercial bft fishing is the most expensive job in the world.
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So what sort of life boat or raft or bailout bags are carried on fishing trawlers or could be personally taken aboard by crew?

I'm guessing they need life vests but do most boats carry an unsinkable raft or dinghy like a Portland Pudgyhttp://www.portlandpudgy.com/ ?

How about even a cheap 2 man rubber raft you can buy at walmart? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Sevylor-Specialists-Two-Person-Inflatable-Boat/10928134

I mean, you could stow the raft in your dry bag and forget about it but faced with the threat of capsizing wouldn't it give you just that much more chance of survival? For $20 wouldn't you even think about it? I would.



Survival suits, float free lift rafts, epirbs are all required by the Coast Guard on commercial boats. Life vests are required also but type and style differs.


And none of that will do much good if you're stuck inside the vessel.


Also none of that helps you in 75 foot seas.
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I neflixed "Wicked Tuna" a while back, the fish they caught were Huge! They said the biggest are worth 15-20,000 dollars each Dangerous profession but it pays if you know your stuff apparently.

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The way they do pricing on that show is COMPLETE BULLSHIT and fucking retarded. We ran one of the boats just before the show wanted it and we walked. Then bought our own. The show wanted to interview us and we said no. Its a plague when they are in town.

Spend days.... weeks fishing
Catch fish big fish YAY!
bring fish to buyer fish dresses say 600 lbs  tell buyer to sell local YES we know the price is lower
Buyer ships fish to Japan
Fishing sells for $21 a lb $12,600 fish YAY!  
Buyer gets money

Icing fee
Boxing fee
shipping fee
re icing fee
Auction houses cut
fish buyers cut

Boat gets paid  $4 a lb $2400
Pay mates 20% -480 -480
Take on fuel -450
change oil and filters -50
groceries -200
buy more tackle -200
Monthly slip fee -400

$620 with 1 mate $140 with two lol  


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The way they do pricing on that show is COMPLETE BULLSHIT and fucking retarded. We ran one of the boats just before the show wanted it and we walked. Then bought our own. The show wanted to interview us and we said no. Its a plague when they are in town.

Spend days.... weeks fishing
Catch fish big fish YAY!
bring fish to buyer fish dresses say 600 lbs  tell buyer to sell local YES we know the price is lower
Buyer ships fish to Japan
Fishing sells for $21 a lb $12,600 fish YAY!  
Buyer gets money

Icing fee
Boxing fee
shipping fee
re icing fee
Auction houses cut
fish buyers cut

Boat gets paid  $4 a lb $2400
Pay mates 20% -480 -480
Take on fuel -450
change oil and filters -50
groceries -200
buy more tackle -200
Monthly slip fee -400

$620 with 1 mate $140 with two lol  


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I neflixed "Wicked Tuna" a while back, the fish they caught were Huge! They said the biggest are worth 15-20,000 dollars each Dangerous profession but it pays if you know your stuff apparently.

eta- opps u said Sword fish not tuna Same risks thou I bet


The way they do pricing on that show is COMPLETE BULLSHIT and fucking retarded. We ran one of the boats just before the show wanted it and we walked. Then bought our own. The show wanted to interview us and we said no. Its a plague when they are in town.

Spend days.... weeks fishing
Catch fish big fish YAY!
bring fish to buyer fish dresses say 600 lbs  tell buyer to sell local YES we know the price is lower
Buyer ships fish to Japan
Fishing sells for $21 a lb $12,600 fish YAY!  
Buyer gets money

Icing fee
Boxing fee
shipping fee
re icing fee
Auction houses cut
fish buyers cut

Boat gets paid  $4 a lb $2400
Pay mates 20% -480 -480
Take on fuel -450
change oil and filters -50
groceries -200
buy more tackle -200
Monthly slip fee -400

$620 with 1 mate $140 with two lol  




No ones stopping you from buying your own boat.
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I know what you mean, of course there is also the scene where Peter Boyle dispatches Sarandon  in JOE, or the scene where she flies off the cliff in  Thelma & Louise
Link Posted: 11/4/2015 4:33:23 PM EDT
read the book "Hungry Ocean. By the captain of the Hannah Boden the sister ship to the Andrea Gale
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buffet swordfish?  That's your measure of swordfish steak taste?




Swordfish steaks with the aforementioned lemon and butter are fucking delicious.  

Used to get it when I was a kid and my father was coming off a scallop trip(obviously not bycatch).  He would almost always bring some home from New Bedford.  Haven't had any in awhile.

Agree with the others, the book is much better than the movie.  

That storm fucked some stuff up onshore as well.  Had Hurricane Bob in the summer blow al the trees down in one direction and then this freak of nature Nor'easter over Halloween blow them the other way.  Free firewood for years.




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