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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:34:03 PM EST
it seems that ANY criticism whether justified or not is considered "cop-bashing." my last topic was a complete factual undertaking yet it was locked.

so just what IS "cop-bashing" here at ar15republicansandcopscandonowrongandlockdown­yourtopicifyoudisagree.com?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:35:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 6:36:06 PM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:36:07 PM EST
Anything that gets a thread locked...

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Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:38:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By oddball:
it seems that ANY criticism whether justified or not is considered "cop-bashing."




I think you pretty much answered your own question.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:43:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 6:45:24 PM EST by shotar]
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:43:52 PM EST
IBTL
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:46:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 6:46:55 PM EST by repub18]
edited just to be safe
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:47:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:49:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

7.) Posting topics or discussions with the desire to do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics meant to disrupt the site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or disrupt the ability for the site to function normally.


I like that one.

In a word "trolling" for hate.

I guess that's three words [sigh]



...and posting the job fatality statistics fall under THAT?.

are you implying that POSTING STATISTICAL FACTS = COP BASHING?

that bs comes up in every cop thread and everyone glides right over it as if it is a given. it is bs and it needs to be stoped.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:50:12 PM EST
face it we are all grown up responsible men and we dont like authority and people telling us what is best for us. It is natural to resist and dislike the police.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:50:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:52:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:
The consensus was that the guy the cop stopped should have been arrested for child endangering.



Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:53:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
Non-specific, generalized spouting of bullshit......pouting over a ticket and saying stupid shit about cops and wishing they would all die is usually gonna get you locked. Using disrespectful slurs and such usually gets it done too....

We have quite a few cops on this board. Most of them are good guys. Some are pricks. Pretty much like any other group dynamic.

If you have SPECIFIC discussion material you can hammer on cops or whoever all day long as long as you remain within the rest of the CoC.




i dont know about that.

my topic was well within YOUR discription, but was locked anyway.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:54:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By dave223:

Originally Posted By shotar:
The consensus was that the guy the cop stopped should have been arrested for child endangering.







thats what I was about to post



the classic
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:55:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By oddball:

Originally Posted By Paul:

7.) Posting topics or discussions with the desire to do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics meant to disrupt the site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or disrupt the ability for the site to function normally.


I like that one.

In a word "trolling" for hate.

I guess that's three words [sigh]



...and posting the job fatality statistics fall under THAT?.

are you implying that POSTING STATISTICAL FACTS = COP BASHING?

that bs comes up in every cop thread and everyone glides right over it as if it is a given. it is bs and it needs to be stoped.



Well, to be honest, it is a tribute to the skill of most police officers out there that more aren't killed in the line of duty. So to use bare statistics to say that their job isn't dangerous is a bit unfair, yes?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:06:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By oddball:
it seems that ANY criticism whether justified or not is considered "cop-bashing." my last topic was a complete factual undertaking yet it was locked.

so just what IS "cop-bashing" here at ar15republicansandcopscandonowrongandlockdown­yourtopicifyoudisagree.com?



Gee, a quick search reveals in the last 30 days you have not participated in ONE discussion on this board about guns.



so what if i havent been in any firearms discussion for 30 WHOLE DAYS. that only means that i have a fulfilling life away from my computer, and judging by your post count over time i find that your life is here.


I'll count the days until we see something funny happen with your account


...and ill bet you'll be the one to do it too. thats just the type of thing that makes you feel like a powerful stud, huh?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:19 PM EST
What is with all the whining manginas as of late? Dude clean the sand out of your pussy and move on
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:15:04 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:14:51 PM EST by SHIVAN]
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:13:20 PM EST
Criticism based on an emotional response, without giving the proper attention to law, training, or policy.

It's not your fault though. You don't have the core knowledge to intelligently debate the issue, so you revert to an emotional response.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:16:02 PM EST
cop bashing, you say? no such thing.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:18:01 PM EST
If you're gonna argue, you gotta bring skills. If ya don't bring skills, you lose
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:19:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
cop bashing, you say? no such thing.



Most cop haters are just jealous because they don't have enough dick to hold up a gun belt


....plus how many cop haters have ever seen a shot fired in anger??

My guess they would cry mommy and wet their pants.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:20:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By AZ_Hi_Desert:

Well, to be honest, it is a tribute to the skill of most police officers out there that more aren't killed in the line of duty. So to use bare statistics to say that their job isn't dangerous is a bit unfair, yes?



i would say no, because you could say the same thing about any career?

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:22:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
If you're gonna argue, you gotta bring skills. If ya don't bring skills, you lose



You're damn right.

I don't remember having my stuff locked. I have been called a cop-basher, but I only criticize specific instances or condense thoughts from multiple instances. I don't say cops are dumb, out to get me, pigs, etc.

Specific instances versus broad generalizations. THAT is the difference between discussion and bashing.

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:27:05 PM EST
LOCK LOCK LOCK
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:29:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
cop bashing, you say? no such thing.



Most cop haters are just jealous because they don't have enough dick to hold up a gun belt


....plus how many cop haters have ever seen a shot fired in anger??

My guess they would cry mommy and wet their pants.



you're kidding, right? cops have the highest rate of wee dick syndrome of any occupation in the united states. how many cops have fired a shot in anger? all of them because they get pissed that they keep missing, unless it's a dog.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:33:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:33:56 PM EST by Grunteled]

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
What is with all the whining manginas as of late? Dude clean the sand out of your pussy and move on



manginas

Shit I hadn't seen that one yet. I nearly spewed my drink.

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:34:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Grunteled:


Shit I hadn't seen that one yet. I nearly spewed my drink.



Do A google search for it and click images and you will spew. (in my best Yoda voice) You Will Spew.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:34:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Criticism based on an emotional response, without giving the proper attention to law, training, or policy.

It's not your fault though. You don't have the core knowledge to intelligently debate the issue, so you revert to an emotional response.



if you are refering to me i would say that you have a hard time telling emotion from fact. i gave the facts the others give the visceral responses.

i would have to say that YOU are the emotional one since you cant refute anything about the facts and resort to simply trying to imply that i am ignorant of the issue. i assure you i am not.

sorry, wont fly pards. you have to debate the FACTS -- which you are obviously not prepared to do, because the very stipulations (law, training, and policy) you "presented" can be applied to most all other occupations as well.

you are consantly "looking" for a reason to hold cops above the rest.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:35:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
cop bashing, you say? no such thing.



Most cop haters are just jealous because they don't have enough dick to hold up a gun belt


....plus how many cop haters have ever seen a shot fired in anger??

My guess they would cry mommy and wet their pants.



you're kidding, right? cops have the highest rate of wee dick syndrome of any occupation in the united states. how many cops have fired a shot in anger? all of them because they get pissed that they keep missing, unless it's a dog.




Thats an ingnorant, uninformed statement. My guess either you are either criminally inclined or you have a cop fetish and want to be handcuffed and maced right before the spanking
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:37:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
face it we are all grown up responsible men and we dont like authority and people telling us what is best for us. It is natural to resist and dislike the police.




Where the hell do you get off callin' me "responsible" ???
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:47:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:52:11 PM EST by oddball]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

No, what it indicates is you're a chickenshit that hides behind troll accounts rather than someone that wants to be part of this site.



seems you are violating the code of conduct pards. tisk, tisk, tisk a moderator no less.

are you challenging me?? and if so are YOU prepared to back this statement-up?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:51:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:52:33 PM EST by Sierra_Hombre]

Originally Posted By oddball:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

No, what it indicates is you're a chickenshit that hides behind troll accounts rather than someone that wants to be part of this site.



seems you are violating the code of conduct pards. tisk, tisk, tisk a moderator no less.

is this a challenge?? are YOU prepared to back this statement-up?



lumpy is an artist. he would deconstruct you in ways you can't even imagine. have you not seen his news photos for gun nuts? all he needs is motivation and you're the poor sap that's going to give it to him.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:54:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
If you're gonna argue, you gotta bring skills. If ya don't bring skills, you lose



You're damn right.

I don't remember having my stuff locked. I have been called a cop-basher, but I only criticize specific instances or condense thoughts from multiple instances. I don't say cops are dumb, out to get me, pigs, etc.

Specific instances versus broad generalizations. THAT is the difference between discussion and bashing.





*** BINGO ***
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:09:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By shotar:
Actually, its stating that you hate cops because you saw some news article that you don't know all the facts that the reporter missed



(1) I have no problems with you or any other cops I've met from this board, some I would be proud to call friends.

(2) "don't know all the facts" really gets to the heart of the matter of why I don't instinctively trust LEOs that I don't know. Why? Because they have the man-given authority to put my life in danger (to kill me in the extreme case) if they initiate a situation that could potentially make them believe that I pose a threat to their lives. That's pretty far down on the cool scale.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:28:18 PM EST
Whoa!! Is this guy stirring trouble, or asking a legit question? Before it starts, I'm not choosing sides here.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:33:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By fizassist:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Actually, its stating that you hate cops because you saw some news article that you don't know all the facts that the reporter missed



(1) I have no problems with you or any other cops I've met from this board, some I would be proud to call friends.

(2) "don't know all the facts" really gets to the heart of the matter of why I don't instinctively trust LEOs that I don't know. Why? Because they have the man-given authority to put my life in danger (to kill me in the extreme case) if they initiate a situation that could potentially make them believe that I pose a threat to their lives. That's pretty far down on the cool scale.



Bingo. Our problem with cops is that when they come into our lives we are no longer in control of our lives. That really sucks.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 1:44:25 PM EST
Daring to confront the blue wall will get you labeled cop-basher. It will not neccesarily get your account locked or even a warning.
As a "cop-basher" on this site I will say there are some good cops here, some of them I have the greatest respect for. There are also some JBT's that would look great in a brown uniform, particularly the shirt.
One thing I have learned from this place is to avoid the po-po at almost any cost, too much chance of getting one of from "the dark side". Too bad, I really would like to meet a few of the good ones.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 2:07:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 2:09:18 PM EST by ColtM4]
I can't stand the us vs. them mentality some folks have , I've been an LEO for many years and still consider myself a citizen FIRST , you will not find a more pro-gun LEO than I am.

I have so much respect for the collective knowledge of firearms I find on this board most of which comes from civilians. I tell people who are interested in firearms to check this site out for a real education.

I think part of the reason some folks hate on LEO's is because of a minority of power hungry , abusive individuals who give us a black eye, and the very real lack of understanding of what our jobs are REALLY like. Not the stuff you may hear about or see on tv. Most of really care and take pride in our jobs , no one I know comes to work with the intent on hurting someone or violatings rights etc...

I retire in 2 years and one of the things I like to tell my co-workers is how much fun its going to be to be a civilian again. I welcome it.

Peace

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 2:10:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By fizassist:

Originally Posted By shotar:
Actually, its stating that you hate cops because you saw some news article that you don't know all the facts that the reporter missed



(1) I have no problems with you or any other cops I've met from this board, some I would be proud to call friends.

(2) "don't know all the facts" really gets to the heart of the matter of why I don't instinctively trust LEOs that I don't know. Why? Because they have the man-given authority to put my life in danger (to kill me in the extreme case) if they initiate a situation that could potentially make them believe that I pose a threat to their lives. That's pretty far down on the cool scale.



Shit-I'm a LEO and I don't instinctively trust LEO's that I don't know !
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