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Posted: 12/30/2006 7:38:24 PM EST
I have some old 7.62x54R that is a bit corroded and i feel not safe to shoot..... is it OK to just throw it out, or is it considered hazardous waste and therefore required special disposal?
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:39:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/30/2006 7:40:06 PM EST by mr0w1]
I say just shoot it. Is it worse than some of that Guat?

Oh, and to answer your question, I have no idea if it'd be illegal to throw it away.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:39:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:41:16 PM EST
Unless you are morally opposed to "polluting the environment," just toss it. Who is going to know?

That ammo can't be any worse than 90% of the caustic shit that I see people throwing away.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:41:57 PM EST
Got a pic? I'll pay shipping
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:42:15 PM EST
How much? Is it Albanian, straight out of the can corroded and ugly? Ship it to me and I will dispose of it properly!
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:44:36 PM EST
Buy a $75 Mosin and shoot it all.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:44:38 PM EST
not worth selling, its only a few dozen rounds of the decades-old eastern european surplus that goes for <.08 cents a round. And I won't have time to shoot it, i'm moving in 2 days, which is the reason I want to get rid of it.

Just wondering if it might be illegal to throw in the trash, or at all dangerous to the garbagemen who might be around the compactor.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:45:58 PM EST
I'll pay shipping. It would probably go off in the compactor.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:49:07 PM EST

Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:52:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.



They'd raise their threat level to "Oh Holy Shit! Live ammunition is invading the country!"
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:54:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.



They'd raise their threat level to "Oh Holy Shit! Live ammunition is invading the country!"


ROFLMFAO
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:00:09 PM EST
Just go bury it somewhere. I've disposed of many thousands of blanks this way.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:00:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/30/2006 8:01:16 PM EST by TheTracker]
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.

If your worried about it. Me I would just toss them in a lake .
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:03:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.


what's the easiest way to do this? pliers?
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:06:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.


what's the easiest way to do this? pliers?


yes, it won't take much effort at all
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:06:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.


what's the easiest way to do this? pliers?[/quote


Teeth
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:07:38 PM EST
Don't pull straight out , side to side at first
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:10:31 PM EST
pliers will do it; be sure they have good grip on the bullet, needle-nose would be a poor choice for example.

with the powder gone the remainder is much less hazardous; I don't see a huge safety hazard to garbage guys being posed by primers
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:11:10 PM EST
thanks
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:11:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.


what's the easiest way to do this? pliers?



Yes. burn the powder, you can even set off the primer by pouring the powder out in a line, leaving a trail into the case, and lighting it.

Make nice little rockets
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:15:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.


Funniest thing I've read all night.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 9:22:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By staraero:
It would probably go off in the compactor.


Really, REALLY unlikely.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 5:16:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
I have some old 7.62x54R that is a bit corroded and i feel not safe to shoot..... is it OK to just throw it out, or is it considered hazardous waste and therefore required special disposal?
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 6:29:57 AM EST
You can use the powder to fertilize the lawn too
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 6:41:56 AM EST
Just for safety, wear goggles or something when you are pulling the bullets. And it would probably be best if you didn’t hold the round in your bare hands either. Use another set of pliers or a vise or something. You want to put a little distance between your skin and the case of the cartridge.

The odds of something happening are very low, but better safe than sorry.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 6:43:50 AM EST
If you don't want to shoot it, pull the bullets and dump the powder in your flower garden.

Soak the empty cases in water to disable the primers, then trash or recycle.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 6:46:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 7:02:58 AM EST
Throw them in the fire on a campout.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 7:04:18 AM EST
First you start a small fire, then you......... and post pics
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 7:17:57 AM EST
If it's a big amount of ammo I'm sure you could just hand it in to the nearest fire station or police station and they would deal with it for you. Might want to call them and ask first.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 7:51:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/31/2006 7:53:48 AM EST by warlord]

Originally Posted By GTLandser:
pliers will do it; be sure they have good grip on the bullet, needle-nose would be a poor choice for example.

with the powder gone the remainder is much less hazardous; I don't see a huge safety hazard to garbage guys being posed by primers

I've never pulled bullets like this, but the military ammo has a tar-like substance as a neck-sealer to prevent moisture contamination. What I did was to put the round in a locading press, and with any type of die, push the bullet down just a bit(the amount of travel doesn't matter) to break the seal. After that you can probably easily pull the bullet easily. I think you don't break the neck seal, you have to use a lot strenght to seperate the bullet from the case.

BTW: Primers won't explode if there is no bullet on top, they will just burn very ferocious for a moment.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 8:01:15 AM EST
shoot it! I had some 7.62x39 that was in a flooded house and completely rusted and threw it in an SKS and worked fine
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 9:15:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.

If your worried about it. Me I would just toss them in a lake .


Yeah! Hey! Great! We all need more of that crap in our water. Thanks for the genius advice.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:36:28 AM EST
I had this same problem a couple years ago:
by turns of various events, I ended up with several hundred rounds of 223,,, and no 223-cal gun to shoot them. No mil surp, all reloads (none I reloaded; some commercial, some from the local shop/range). And all of it over ten years old now.

-The entire quantity is too heavy to throw away at once. Plus it sounds odd and if the trash company found it there could be trouble from that end, because we're not supposed to throw away anything that contains flammable materials (combustible or liquid fuels, ect).

-I called the shop and asked what to do with them, they said they didn't have any means of accepting ammo for disposal. They advised that I ,,,, [-see below-].

I called the local police and they also said they couldn't advise what to do with it, and that they had no means of free or for-fee disposal either.

The gun shop advised that I soak them in a container of motor oil for a couple days, and then just throw them away in the regular trash. But this wasn't really any good solution because--as I sasid--solid and liquid combustibles are illegal to throw in the trash where I live. So if I did this, not only would I have the bullets themselves to get rid of, but I'd also have a leftover quantity of "unusable in a vehicle" oil as well.

---------

My solution was fast-food joints. You know..... after you pay at the first window and get your food at the second, then you pull forward a bit more and there's a trash-can on the drivers side you can toss trash in?.... yep. When I'd do this, I'd use the food bag from the previous visit. That way even if they thought I threw something wierd in there, they wouldn't be able to prove it--the trashcan's full of their food bags. They'd have no way of knowing which one I threw in.

I did that about three or four times, and then slacked off. I've still gotta do it at least five or six more times to get rid of it all.
~



Link Posted: 1/1/2007 2:26:03 AM EST
Floppy said:

I had this same problem a couple years ago:
by turns of various events, I ended up with several hundred rounds of 223,,, and no 223-cal gun to shoot them. No mil surp, all reloads (none I reloaded; some commercial, some from the local shop/range). And all of it over ten years old now. snip


Sorry, Floppy, but that's definately the stupidest thing I've heard in '07 so far.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 3:04:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.



They'd raise their threat level to "Oh Holy Shit! Live ammunition is invading the country!"



OK now that is funny.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 3:19:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 3:26:19 AM EST
Vice grips are good por fulling., an keep it away form your face.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 3:27:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2007 3:29:51 AM EST by FrankSymptoms]
Drop it in a doorway in London. They'll get a big kick out of that!

ETA


Make a call to the PD, see if they will accept it for disposal. They git rid of many thousands of rounds per yeawr of confiscated ammo.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 4:01:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By 1shott:

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.



They'd raise their threat level to "Oh Holy Shit! Live ammunition is invading the country!"



OK now that is funny.


How's that funny...?

We have plenty of ammo here already.


Am I missing something?

Cheers
Taffy
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 4:50:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By Taffy223:

Originally Posted By 1shott:

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By 667:
Mail it to England. The whole island will shit green monkeys.



They'd raise their threat level to "Oh Holy Shit! Live ammunition is invading the country!"



OK now that is funny.


How's that funny...?

We have plenty of ammo here already.


Am I missing something?

Cheers
Taffy



No offense, but you have to see things from our perspective.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 5:52:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/1/2007 5:56:25 AM EST by TheTracker]

Originally Posted By Rocksarge:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
A few dozen rounds , just unseat the bullet dump out the charge.

If your worried about it. Me I would just toss them in a lake .


Yeah! Hey! Great! We all need more of that crap in our water. Thanks for the genius advice.



These aren't lead bullets there sparky , and going around your lake one time with your out board causes more damage than these would
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 6:59:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Floppy_833:
I had this same problem a couple years ago:

I did that about three or four times, and then slacked off. I've still gotta do it at least five or six more times to get rid of it all.


Noooooo !!!

Box it up and I'll send you a prepaid box or label to ship it to me.

You can always put ammo up in the EE as "not safe to shoot" for pulling down components ONLY. Damn that's a waste to a reloader.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:21:06 PM EST
no and no
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:26:56 PM EST
Just pull the bullets...throw powder in the garden or burn it off...then shoot the primers in the cases...chuck cases if steal..recycle if brass.

If not, look up someone on the hometown forums and just give them away. Someone will be hppy to tke them off your hands.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:28:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By 80FL:
Floppy said:

I had this same problem a couple years ago:
by turns of various events, I ended up with several hundred rounds of 223,,, and no 223-cal gun to shoot them. No mil surp, all reloads (none I reloaded; some commercial, some from the local shop/range). And all of it over ten years old now. snip


Sorry, Floppy, but that's definately the stupidest thing I've heard in '07 so far.


+1

Why not just give the shit away to someone who can use it?
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:29:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Drop it in a doorway in London. They'll get a big kick out of that!

ETA


Make a call to the PD, see if they will accept it for disposal. They git rid of many thousands of rounds per yeawr of confiscated ammo.


Confiscated ammo goes to local gunshops here :O
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:30:20 PM EST
Take it to the next gun show, with a sign taped to you that says
"Free ammo" someone will take it and try it or pull the rounds.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:37:21 PM EST
Green Monkeys. LMAO. I didnt think the Brits shit. Especially the Queen bitch.

The ranges I frequent have a barrel for unwanted ammo.
Link Posted: 1/1/2007 12:37:34 PM EST
I had a small-scale issue of disposing of live ammo a few years ago (pre 9-11).

I caught a flight from Portland to San Francisco, and while sitting cramped up in that tiny seat felt something hard in my pocket ... it was a 9mm round.

A few days earler the local TV channels "Breaking News" was of a "Live bullet found in a jetway at the airport " -- Apparently it was of the type used by police, and so highly dangerous, and investigations were underway to find out how it got there

So I wasn't about to drop it in the pocket seat in front of me ...

At the hotel in SF I thought about it ... the dropped it into the soda can I just finished, screwed up the can and dropped it in the trash.

Never saw any news items about SF trash collectors being killed by exploding soda cans
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