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Posted: 10/9/2007 9:27:42 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 9:51:04 AM EST
You are going to use this for pistol shooting, correct?
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 9:55:57 AM EST
Sounds like a good plan to me. I'd set them up above ground and build a large dirt berm on all sides (and over them). If you seal them well with epoxy paint first they should last a long time without rusting out. Use more dirt for the backstop and it'll be gtg. You'll have to figure out a large air handling system though to keep from breathing a lot of lead dust, and that'll probably be the expensive part.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 9:58:43 AM EST
Doesn't sound like a good idea...
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 9:59:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Sounds like a good plan to me. I'd set them up above ground and build a large dirt berm on all sides (and over them). If you seal them well with epoxy paint first they should last a long time without rusting out. Use more dirt for the backstop and it'll be gtg. You'll have to figure out a large air handling system though to keep from breathing a lot of lead dust, and that'll probably be the expensive part.

A fan like you would use to ventilate an automotive paint booth should do the trick fairly cheap.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:00:18 AM EST
loud comes to mind
Ever been in one?
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:02:05 AM EST
The cheapest I've seen one-use ConEx boxes is about $2500. They're about 8,000 pounds of steel, so much below that and they're more valuable as scrap. I guess it's feasible, but I could find a gazzilion other things to do with $7500.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:02:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By TruckinAR:
loud comes to mind
Ever been in one?


If I was the one building it I would like the insides of the containers with plywood to control potential ricochets and then use sound deadening foam to line the plywood. Should do the trick just fine. Also, suppressors are legal in MO IIRC.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:03:49 AM EST
MARK MY WORDS: THIS WILL NOT END WELL.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:04:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
The cheapest I've seen one-use ConEx boxes is about $2500. They're about 8,000 pounds of steel, so much below that and they're more valuable as scrap. I guess it's feasible, but I could find a gazzilion other things to do with $7500.


Due to my location (near some huge ports) I have seen used 40' conexes for <$1K, but then you'd have to move them to the midwest. That's not for one use ones though, some of them are pretty beat up. You could make a pretty nice range with two 40 footers.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:04:31 AM EST
Mobile Tactics in Marco Island, FL is a three lane
pistol range inside a 18 wheel tractor/ trailer rig.
And yes, it is mobile.
I used to shoot there all time. Its AR15 friendly too.
Ask for retired LEO Mike Christoff.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:05:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2007 10:05:30 AM EST by yakrat101]

Originally Posted By Chairborne:

Originally Posted By TruckinAR:
loud comes to mind
Ever been in one?


SNIP

Also, suppressors are legal in MO IIRC.


Only if your a C2 Manufacturer or C3 dealer, us peons are left to deal with traumatic hearing loss.

yak
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:16:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:17:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 10:20:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2007 10:34:51 AM EST by Chris_1522]
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:19:52 AM EST
I build buildings in these things for a living, and I can tell you that most of your designs are overkill.

How about this:

Get a 40, build a small building in front of it, about 15' deep. This will be where you are going to stand to fire.

Drill a hole in each of the end headers and install a pulley with some wire rope, so you have a means to run a target down and back.

Don't worry about the sides. If you happen to shoot one, the bullet will go through, but will lose most of its power. This is supposed to be in a semi rural area. Correct?

Install at the end a sheet of 1/4" steel angled from lower front so as to deflect the bullets towards the floor. Cover the floor with about 6" of sand in the impact area and back so to absorb all bullet strikes.

Put a vent back where you are standing while shooting. Install a fan down behind the deflecting sheet. Put it closer to the floor, since lead is heavy.

Fire away.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:24:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chris_1522:

ETA: A friend of mine has joked about doing this with large concrete sewer pipes buried underground, coming off the basement.



I like this idea better. Imagine a concealed 50' range next to the reloading bench.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:29:32 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:32:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:38:35 AM EST
I have meant to post pics for some time now, but in close proximity to my current location there is a range of similiar design, in a suburban setting, buried in the back yard.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:43:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 12:07:57 PM EST
So where in MO are you, poster. Can I come play when you are done?

I always thought burying some shipping containers and lining them with tires or someother protective substance would make a good indoor/underground range.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 12:08:56 PM EST
The walls are 14 ga. (.071)

You have about 340 sq. ft per wall and 320 for the ceiling, so sound proofing can get expensive. It takes 10 sheets of plywood to do a wall X 3 X 20 bucks per 1/2" sheet, now you have 600 bucks wrapped up in it. The only places you are actually letting sound (which is vibration) out is at your vent and your fan.

What you might get is a pressure spike from the expanding gas. I'm not a good enough physicist to phigure that out.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 12:13:21 PM EST
Very, very loud.

Lead residue problems (lead particles will become airborne and be inhaled)--very bad to say the least.

Boring. No room to move, etc. If bullseye is your thing, then maybe it would be okay.

Probably not legal.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 1:37:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2007 1:42:57 PM EST by Merlin]
Too bad you didn't post this in the Survival forums.

In about 5 minutes someone would have posted the 140+ page .pdf in zip format that discusses the various uses of ISO containers, including as an indoor pistol range.

Sorry, can't recall the poster's name (perhaps Airwolf??) and I only have the .pdf on my work 'puter. Search on "container" in the survival forums and see if it comes up in the last 3 months, I bet it does.

Bottom line: it's very doable and containers would make a kick-ass pistol range.

Good luck.

Merlin
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 2:31:34 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 4:11:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=558943


That be it, thanks!


Ok, Airwolf Wolfpack... I was close!
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 4:17:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
If a bullet escapes, you could be busted for an unregistered sound suppressor.


This isn't true. A suppressor has to attach to a gun. There are hundreds of "range suppressors" all over the country. Different variations of a stack of tires to shoot through.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 8:18:09 PM EST
No reason it couldnt be done. The local cops here have a pistol range that inside a semi truck trailor. uses ground up car tires for the backstop.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:15:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paveway_:
Bad idea.

Whats stopping the rounds that don't hit the backstop? Container walls are not going to stop rounds.



I guess I am going to have to go out in the yard and fire my pistol at some walls to see what happens. My best guess right now is I get a large dent.

Here are some things to think about:
1. Container skins are corrugated. So the possibility of hitting a side perpendicular is fairly small.

2. This was supposed to be in a semi-rural area, not downtown, so if a round actually went through a wall or roof, it is going to have to travel some distance, to actually hit something.

3. When you go to the indoor range, how many times have you shot the roof, and the walls? Total?
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