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Posted: 7/30/2005 11:37:44 AM EDT
guys i have the type of throid cancer that spreads. Doctor says, it has nothing to do with what i've eaten or done, just bad luck. It has spread to my spine, two of my ribs, liver and lungs. they dont know how long i have had it. but they are wanting me to do chemo, with an 30% recovery maybe. all this happened last thursday with an mri on my back to see what was causing my back pain.

so my question is, I dont want to be sick with chemo, anyone know of any other treatments? natural or otherwise?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:39:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:40:04 AM EDT
Dude, sorry to hear this news.

I hope and pray for the best for you and your family.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:40:56 AM EDT
Wow, don't know what to say except that I know some folks who did chemo & pulled through. I'll leave this one for the medical experts, have faith.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:41:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 11:42:53 AM EDT by fadedsun]
Machine guns are a good treatment against any cancer I hear.

ETA: If you caught it early your chances are VERY good. Hell, there are some pets that were brought in with tumours and we were able to save them. Surely someone with more knowledge can make you better.

ben
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:42:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 11:43:16 AM EDT by geish]
I'm really sorry to hear that man. I'll pray for you.

I don't know of any other treatments. I think chemo would be best. That and lots of prayer.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:43:56 AM EDT
Think "well" and you will get though this. The power of the mind has been proven to heal. Just do what your doctor says and keep an up attitude.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:45:50 AM EDT
I'm sorry to hear that, My Dad had cancer about 7 years ago that was stage 2. He is still alive and kicking and at 75 running five miles a day. It;s as much attitude as chemo and the like, it's all up to you and the big guy upstairs. Get several opinions and don't worry about the docs feelings, were talking about your life here not ego. Another one might have a better angle of attack.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:48:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:51:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kpel308:
Prayers headed your way.

+1000
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:51:26 AM EDT
Listen to your doctors. God bless.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:51:44 AM EDT
I'm sorry to hear this.

My grandmother had cancer, and she took chemo. She lived for another 8 years. She got chemo treatments once a month and was sick for about 3 days afterwards. You'll probably loose weight and lose your hair, but if it gives you a few more years with the people you love (and the people who love you), then you might want to consider it.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:53:29 AM EDT
My thoughts and prayers to you and your family.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:54:05 AM EDT
Prayers inbound
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:55:34 AM EDT
very sorry to hear this- prayers are inbound.

my mom had a bought with cancer last summer and faced the option of whether or not to do chemo. they had found it early enough to where they could not say for sure whether or not she needed it- which made it her call. after a few days of prayer and considering it she elected to do it.

i know chemo sucks big time- beating cancer is not an easy thing to do. as someone else said if you think "well" then you can do this. but from what information your doctor gave you it's probably something that you should go through with.

take a few days to pray it out and get a second opinion if you want to- sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. best of luck to you.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:58:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:59:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 12:00:58 PM EDT by lippo]

Originally Posted By kpel308:
Prayers headed your way.




+1

Very sorry to hear that. If it helps, Lance had a very, very small chance of beating his cancer. Yes he was young, but I think his attitude helped more than anything else. If you want to beat this thing, make sure you really believe it and do EVERY thing you can to beat it. Just because a war looks lost based on some battles, doesn't mean it is. If you know anything about American history, if our Founding Fathers (meaning all who fought) gave up mentally, emotionally and spiritually, there wouldn't be an America today. They had some REALLY hard times and the war was almost lost many times, but they had a belief that they would win. No one knows what the future holds in store for them, but keep up the fight and believe. Don't talk about being done for, talk about beating this cancer and winning your life back. Life is a VERY precious gift that one should fight to keep.

I don't know what they can do for you, but a 30% chance is better than a 5% chance. And with the wonders they can do these days, give them a chance. And with chemo, I don't know what they can do for the pain, but check out everything. And prayer can really help. It might not seem like it at the time, sometimes, but if you look at it from hindsight, it always could be worse.

I'm sure everyone here hopes the best for you, and that goes for me. Let us know if there is anything you need. People here are some of the most generous people you'll find.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:03:17 PM EDT
Prayers inbound fella. Your attitude will have a lot to do with your recovery. If you believe you can do it, you probably can, and more. A human being can do much more than most think they can. Good luck!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:04:34 PM EDT
www.cancer-prevention.net/

We will be praying for you and your family.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:05:20 PM EDT
hang in there.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:06:49 PM EDT
Sorry to hear about this.

I do NOT recommend blindly listening to your doctor. Look around and get the RIGHT doctor first. Do some research and find the best possible doctor that you can in that area of specialty. I repeat DO NOT listen to some two bit local doctor. Find the best one you can first.

Wish you the best.

coburn
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:10:36 PM EDT
prayers sent for a fellow mississippian.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:13:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Dude, sorry to hear this news.

I hope and pray for the best for you and your family.



I'm sorry about this too.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:19:32 PM EDT
Oh man. Sorry, hope you have a speedy and healthy recovery. Cancer just sucks.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:24:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scalawag:
I dont want to be sick with chemo



You are about to die... Getting sick from chemo is the least of your worries. Sorry, I don't mean to be a jerk.

I have two family members that have gone through this in the past 12 months. Do every thing you can. Do not worry about the expense. Do not worry about anything... Just exert your will to live and follow every treatment you can as soon as you can. GOD willing, you will live. But you have to have the will to live.

I will pray for you. Godspeed.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:24:30 PM EDT
Sorry to hear this. I had a melanoma removed a couple of weeks ago and it gave me a chance to (re)consider my priorities. Nothing earthshaking, but let's say I'll play a little more and work a little less. Several people have mentioned getting a second opinion and that seems like a good idea; however, get yourself informed as much as possible about your illness. Read everything you can find on your condition so that when the docs talk to you you'll understand 100% of what they are saying. Cancer resources on the web are astounding in breadth and depth. Take advantage of that. My prayers are with you.

Kevin
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:26:23 PM EDT
Prayer sent for you and your family.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:27:44 PM EDT
I'll pray for you. Good luck, cancer scares the bejeezus out of me.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:29:34 PM EDT
This is going to be heavy..

Some very important things
(1.) Do the CHEMO
(2.) Make peace with your family members and others
(3.) Make out a Last Will & Testament if you haven't already.
(4.) (and this is the most important) Make your Peace with God.

Whatever happens keep your faith in Jesus


I will Pray for you and your loved ones.

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:30:32 PM EDT
+1000 on the prayers and Go read up and get info.... get more info. And then get more info.... when you think you have enough info.... GET MORE!! there is no such thing as enough information on what you have.

As other's said... think POSITIVE and it helps... the mind has so much power.

I am so sorry to hear that.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:31:54 PM EDT
The key to beat this is your state of mind! Please keep your hopes up! Dont give up fight it and dont stop!

Ill keep you in my heart and ill pray for you every night.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:45:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 12:46:43 PM EDT by soccermike7]
i've heard some chemo can be awful and people want to quit. if you have to go though with it, dont quit no matter what. quitting means you've automatically given in. be strong, and get through this shit!

my aunt quit chemo a few years ago 'because she was doing fine' - she's dead. dont quit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:49:55 PM EDT
Try and make to Houston, We have the best cancer treatment center probally in the world
Sorry to hear that. Good luck
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:53:13 PM EDT
I have said a prayer for you.

My Aunt is fighting it now. She is doing well. Please don't give up.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:53:40 PM EDT

www.cancer.gov

Good resource for important information. I also recommend that you pay attention to nutrition and hydration. Your body is going to have one hell of a fight on its hands, it needs all of the energy and materials it can get.

Good luck.

Jim
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:54:59 PM EDT
Start educating yourself, with the internet and books. Take someone with you to all your appointments who can listen objectively and take notes. Get on websites like People Living With Cancer and learn things from the horse's mouth. IM me if you like, I can point you in the right direction and help you get started.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:01:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KS_Physicist:
www.cancer.gov

Good resource for important information. I also recommend that you pay attention to nutrition and hydration. Your body is going to have one hell of a fight on its hands, it needs all of the energy and materials it can get.

Good luck.

Jim



+1 on the nutrition - ask if you can speak with a staff nutritionist at whatever cancer center they are thinking of using. Let your body focus on fighting off the cancer, not the residuals from a bad diet. You want to line up as many things in your favor as you can. Check with an MD first before doing supplements (vitamins & minerals) as some can have adverse interactions with meds.

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:02:19 PM EDT
Prayers sent.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:04:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scalawag:
guys i have the type of throid cancer that spreads. Doctor says, it has nothing to do with what i've eaten or done, just bad luck. It has spread to my spine, two of my ribs, liver and lungs. they dont know how long i have had it. but they are wanting me to do chemo, with an 30% recovery maybe. all this happened last thursday with an mri on my back to see what was causing my back pain.

so my question is, I dont want to be sick with chemo, anyone know of any other treatments? natural or otherwise?


There's a man who just won 7 bicycle races after chemo. YOU CAN BEAT IT.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:22:10 PM EDT
Please, PLEASE do the following:

Go to the best you can find, or the second best you can find and be very straight forward:

Do NOT tell them what the other doctor's diagnosis is. Tell them you want a second opinion about the backpain you have and you want an MRI or whatever is required. Point out that this is for a second opinion ONLY and that there is ZERO chance of your doing a procedure with them or visiting them again.

You have then removed all the bias in the process or the tendency of specialists to order procedures for which they have the equipment in house (rather than the BEST procedure).

A good friend of mine who died from lung cancer made the mistake of running with the first diagnosis and it cost him his life. In short, they decided on radical surgery that permitted the cancer to speed its metastization. If he had gone right to non-invasive first he might still be with us.

The malpractice suits are still raging.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:24:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 1:24:29 PM EDT by dpmmn]
Damn



Prayers sent
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:36:18 PM EDT
I vounteer to donate blood and blood platelets at the the City of Hope Durarte Calif(about 15 miles east of Los Angeles), and they are a leading research center for all types of cancer. I'm sure that there is probably several of these types of places all over the USA. This place is unique in that they treat both the body and the mind. They have a 800 number listed on their website, maybe you should give them a call.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:40:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drop_zone:
Try and make to Houston, We have the best cancer treatment center probally in the world
Sorry to hear that. Good luck



Houston is top notch (ranked #1)

2004 Top Cancer Hospital rankings

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:42:42 PM EDT
Get the chemo and try to maintain a positive attitude. My dad is on chemo and aredia every three weeks. Aredia is needed because his prostate cancer spread to the bone. Without these treatments he would have died last summer. Good luck to you.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:43:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scalawag:
so my question is, I dont want to be sick with chemo, anyone know of any other treatments? natural or otherwise?



Don't worry about the chemo. You will be sick maybe 3 days afterward, with only the first day being really bad. If you get it every two weeks that is only 6 days a month you will feel sick, and only 2 of those will be really bad days. The rest of the month you will feel fine.

Get two people to go with you to chemo. One to walk you out while the second gets the car and picks you up at the curb. It saves time and energy when you feel bad and gets you home a few minutes quicker.

Look into your local Relay for Life group. They will know more about what you are going through than anybody. www.cancer.org/docroot/gi/gi_1.asp
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:52:00 PM EDT
Very sorry to hear this news Scalawag. Best of luck, and a speedy recovery. Sounds like these guys have posted some good advice, keep a positive attitude, you'll beat this thing.

--VT
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 11:59:41 PM EDT
Cancer is beatable, you have to do it. the options suck, trust me. I beat it last year, and there are others here as well.

Get busy.

Link Posted: 7/31/2005 12:03:43 AM EDT
Sorry to hear that. Prayers sent.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 12:39:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 7:22:51 PM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
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Link Posted: 7/31/2005 12:46:24 AM EDT
Godspeed in your recovery; we're dealing with it at our house also.
Never quit.
M
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 12:55:22 AM EDT
one of my uncles has beat his prognosis with almost the same thing you have
he had brain cancer instead of liver cancer, your battle might be harder because of that
but, he wasn't supposed to last a week before they started treating him almost a year ago

Good Luck
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