i found this on another board and thaught i would let all know..




?Unaware to millions of gun and knife owners, the Google search engine is censoring advertising by reputable businesses. Neither gun, gun parts, knives or any websites that sell such products are allowed to advertise with Google.

While Google "reserve the right to not run certain ads, or certain categories of ads", gun owners, knife owners and gun related business are largely unaware of this fact. Google users, by using the Google service and searching for their favorite products, are supporting an anti-gun business directly censoring gun owners.

Contrary to their claims, Google does not have a stated public policy restricting advertisments and advertisers to "approved" products - or disapproved products for that matter. Their terms and agreements:
https://adwords.google.com/select/main?cmd=Doc&page=TermsAndConditions.html have nothing to say about the matter.

Yet Google does: "We are able to run your advertisements on Google as long as you are not directly advertising guns and knives." Although Bowman's Brigade does not sell guns (only parts), we do have some knives now available.

However, Google goes even further with their "assorted weapons" policy: "At this time, we are not running advertisements for assorted weapons (knives and guns) which are considered unacceptable according to our policy."



The elusive "policy" alleged by Google does not exist. Apparently some heavy handed censors at work, making up the list of "approved" products. What this product list actually is is anybody's guess.

To appease Google, website that have other "approved" products would have to drop their "non-approved" product lines. Such a stance by Google is utterly intolerable.

Please note that the three ads disapproved were as follows:

Best Night Vision Prices!
Night Vision, Weapon Sights, Scopes
Goggles, Binoculars, Infrared www.BowmansBrigade.com

Best Storable Food Price!
Dehydrated, Freeze Dried, over 1500

Items since 1996! www.BowmansBrigade.com

Pistol Accessories!
National Match Barrels, Recoil
Reduction Springs, Compensators www.BowmansBrigade.com

Although these ads did run for about 12 hours, they were promptly removed. To any intelligent person, no guns are advertised, nor knives in the ads. While knives are available on the Bowman's website, guns are not. Only parts. Yet such parts qualify as "firearms" according to Google and are banned. Googles policy is to not advertise any business that sells firearms,
parts or knives.

No conscientious gun owner should use the Google web search engine. Their refusal to advertise a legitimate business and support the politically correct socialist environment today should be vehemently opposed. Let your voice be heard here: [email protected]


a copy of origion responce email

I just placed some ads on Google for my business yesterday for night vision, pistol barrels and dehydrated food (3 seperate ads). Today, this is what I get from Google:
Hello Bowman's Brigade,

We are not able to run the following ad(s) in Ad Group #1, of Campaign #1 you have created using the Google AdWords Select Advertising Program:

Best Night Vision Prices!
Night Vision, Weapon Sights, Scopes
Goggles, Binoculars, Infrared www.BowmansBrigade.com

Thank you for advertising on Google. At this time, we are not running ads for sites that sell pistol barrels or gun parts. We review ads on a case-by-case basis and reserve the right to not run certain ads, or certain categories of ads. Due to our current ads policy, we are unable to run your ad on Google.

Google believes strongly in freedom of expression and therefore offers broad access to content across the web without censoring results. At the same time, we reserve the right to exercise editorial discretion when it comes to the advertising we accept on our site, as noted in our advertising terms and conditions. Please note that the decisions we make concerning advertising in no way affect the search results we deliver. We will continue to show search results for equipment and supplies and related products.
Please feel free to email us at [email protected] if you have further questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
The Google AdWords Team

I find Dogpile to be every bit as good -- I know you can locate gun stuff but don't know their policies.

http://www.dogpile.com/index.gsp

I'd use Google even if Osama Bin Laden owned it.  I don't care.  It's the best.  Before Google, every search engine would give you everything EXCEPT what you were looking for.  90% of the time with Google, you find what you want at or near the top.

Raven are you wet behind the ears or just plain stupid?  The above post PROVES that you are NOT finding what you want!

Jeezus God Almighty I fear for the security of the future of this country....

God damnit I'm pissed off now!  Where the fuck are all you screaming assholes writing letters against advertisers on the HCI site?  At least with them you know that you are dealing with an anti-gun site!  According to this b*** f****** a****** Raven we shouldn't care that search engines filter out interests cause they find all the porn that Raven is looking for!  

Where the fuck is the outcry!
Where the fuck is the outrage!

Screw Google...

Try this for a decent search engine replacement:

[url]www.alltheweb.com[/url]

My response to this matter...

[i]Dear Madam or Sir,

I will no longer support your site due to your position regarding firearms and related items.

Please reference http://assaultweb.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/222587.html for an explanation of my stance regarding your company.

Feel free to contact me at [email protected] regarding this matter.

The 2nd amendment to the [b]constitution[/b] is not a trivial issue. Please review this [b]important document[/b] and reconsider this matter.

I am not alone. There are [b]80 million firearms owners[/b] in this country, and it is my considered opinion that you would be well served to remember this when forming your policies...

Yours,

a former google web-search user.
Charlotte, NC[/i]

That's better!

Raven!
G0 RUN OFF AND DIE PLEASE!

Ya know, I found a better deal on flowers here at the HCI mall....I think I'll go with that cause it's SOOOOO convienient and SOOO much cheaper than what I've found in town....according to the doctrine of Raven that's what I should do....ANYONE disagree?

found a much better response to this topic here: http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?ID=99168
Raven, you make me sick.....

OMG this pisses me off!
Am I the only one!


Where the hell are you guys?

hmmmm..... maybe I shouldn't be so quick to jump on the boycott bandwagon...

I don't like that Google appearantly rejects advertising from firearms-related businesses either, but let's be clear about what we are talking about.  Google does [b]not[/b] appear to filter out firearms-related links from its search engine.  As evidence, I present a link I found when I ran a search for "armalite rifle":

[url]http://directory.google.com/Top/Recreation/Guns/Competition_Shooting/Highpower/Highpower_Rifles/?tc=1[/url]

When I ran an intentionally misspelled search for "armlite rifle", the search engine asked if I meant "armalite rifle."

Google has always been the most useful search engine for locating firearms-related web sites, in my opinion.  I believe it was how I originally found [b]AR15.com[/b].  I will therefore continue to use it.

maybe Google isn't that bad!

I think I've been wrong!

Long live Google!  They are the best!

Aggression bad, mmmkay?

He likes google, you don't, so what?  

Personally, I prefer mamma.  Oh GOD!!  I hope that doesn't offend you jtw2!!

That's cool.

That had better also be the last time I hear ANY of you whining for a boycott.  From now on I get the best for the cheapest, just like everyone else....

Take another Motrin, slip another tampon in your puss and get off Ravens ass

mmm...
fuckyoummmkay?

Not to mention that that is a challenge to my manhood.  Any time, any where Browning you pathetic excuse for a male of the species....

Would you like my address?  Would that make it easier for your cromagnon brain?  

ok, here it is....got a pencil?  

1405 Canal Dr.
Windsor, CO.  80550


Got it?

Show up bitch.....I dare you....

... amateurs [;)]

Seriously, it looks as though I may be switching from my fave engine if this pans out to be true.

Well, Wilson Combat shows up on page 2 on a search of Wilson, and they have the word firearm in the discreption.
And they also have alot of hist for pistol barrel.
What should I try a search for to find out if the ads are being censored?

[smoke]

LOL......... Hit a nerve?

A little hyper jtw2??? You need to chill. If you keep it up you won't be around long.
Using Google is NOT the same as linking from an HCI site and supporting them.
I did 2 different searches on weapon (Wilson Combat and Knives, and found them BOTH listed).

[smoke]

No, Browning you didn't hit a nerve, you've insulted a gentleman...A prospect which has obviously escaped you're foul plan.

What I'm saying is that if you intend to insult, plan to defend.

Like I said, that's fine....

just remember this next time you ask me to write a letter or boycott a company.

What do you want to bet that we'll be getting the now familiar "I'm sorry, I was drunk last night" apology from jtw2?  Or maybe he will go the way of Frank the Spank and become the fantom shitter after being banned.

Who knows?  Or more importantly, who cares?

Do yourself a favor jtw2, do a search for Emerson Knives, using just the word Emerson. You will find them on page 2 after all the R.W. Emerson hits. Then do a search on a bunch of other weapon related words and just look at all the hits.
Let's wait and see what pans out from the_survivalist's issue before you stroke out.
But it seems to me that they have ALOT of weapon related returns when you do a search for pistols, barrels, knives, ect.

[smoke]

I was defending a gentleman [B]Raven[/B]

I've never been worried about insulting anyone on the net.....PS posting your addy on the net is not the smartest thing a person can do......... Ya never know what kind of wackos could be lurking in the shadows [}:D]

jtw2,

I happen to disagree with Raven's opinion.

But what I disagree with more is the way you responded to people here.  

Not the fact that you responded, or that you had a different opinion.

No, it's your attitude and lack of civility toward your fellows.

You've made your opinion pretty much irrelevant here, no matter whether you're right or wrong.

That's a joke right?  A gentleman is not a caustic, violence-inclined, aggressive, foul-mouthed asshole.  You are NOT a gentleman, don't even attempt to claim that.  Unless of course in you are joking, in which case, it's lost on me.



Maybe you should heed your own advice dipshit.  Just a suggestion.

I don't go to a search page for ads
google has one of the best search algorithms out there, and one of the largest databases
when I want a gun pic to post in one of the many forums I post at, I use google. I find stuff everytime. Their image search is great.
When I've wanted some history on guns such as AR's or AK's I went to google. Found tons of stuff
just searched for "ar15" top 2 results were for www.ar15.com

I find it funny that this is the 3rd person who has told me this in 4, yes 4 years....

like I said, you have my address...
come show me your cojones or give me your address and I'll come show you mine...

WTF is your obsession with showing what a "man" you are?  REAL men don't get so bent out of shape over an internet discussion.  

Or maybe you have a thing for other men's cojones?  Are you a latent homosexual?

Really?
Why? What in the "way I've responded to others" has offended you so much?

You have one thing right Baby I have your address

jtw2 --  you is stupid.

Again, WTF is your obsession with other men's genitalia.  Must your compare dick size because you are feeling inadequate?  Are you gay?

Inquiring minds couldn't really give a shit less what your answer is, but I'm in for the entertainment value of any response you might muster.

YAWN....

YAWN.....
my my this is getting tiresome....

Ya think?

why so?

Do you really think this pack of pussies will ever do anything about it?

I sincerely doubt it....

Asshole speak for:

"I can't possibly think of a response to either of your posts so I'm going to convince my own little mind that I didn't come out of this looking like a total dipshit.  I will then post something ridiculously innane like "yawn" and people just might believe that I'm of superior intelligence and penis size (although I haven't quite figured out why I'm so obsessed with dicks) to those who have been tearing me a new rear end for the past 2 hours."

Now that my Friday night entertainment is over you are welcome to make a long overdue exit from stage left jtw2.  Thanks for playing, now fuck off.

In your strange testosterone-fueled world violence is the only way to prove manhood, right?  Should we all drive on up to your trailer and show that not only are we vastly more intelligent, but are also hung like bulls?

Thanks for playing assholes and dipshits, now fuck off.

Wished you lived next door then we could have some fun but your just not worth the drive

This pussy would love to say hi some time

Well keep telling yourself what a badass you are if that makes you sleep better at night but remember that there are real men in the world........ Sweet Dreams

hmmm....how did that grade come out in psych 101? Damn but you sound impressive!

Gosh!  Will you be my mentor?
I so wish I had a response to "dipshit" and other notable intelligencia replies to criticisms of ones politcal position, but I am after all "inane" an incapable of spewing forth an opinion contrary to the vast intelligencia of the "Redmanfs"  ...  So sorry for the interruption!

I'm sorry, am I not getting something?  I only told you my address....you and Browning are the only two asswipes I can see who are threatning anyone....


this will look GREAT on the police report!

Gosh, you guys are a credit to the gunculture!

what role models!

gosh...will you bring the k-y?
please?

I so look formward to it!

Give it to me REAL MAN!

Threatening people?  Are you delusional or what?  I never once implied that I wanted to do physical harm to you (despite hating you).  You are the one who invited the whole damned world to come to your house and show your their cojones.  


If you really want me to use the esoteric psych deconstructions of your grossly underdeveloped superego and overactive id I would be perfectly happy to ablige, but it wouldn't be nearly so interesting as descending to your pathetic level of trailertrash existence.

But hey, it's time for me to stop showing what a pathetic ass for brains you are and go to the bar.  If you want to continue this flame war another day I'm all for it.  Later now.


Edited to add:  Perhaps you'll be so kind as to enlighten us as to your preoccupation with cojones and masculinity.