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Posted: 11/27/2014 2:31:32 PM EDT
Www.gearhog.com

Trust is thru 199trust.com


Im on my phone and cant hitlink....got a email earlier.might be for today only...get you one !
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:40:01 PM EDT
Not technically a dupe since the retard that started the original thread jacked up the title.





Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:40:08 PM EDT
If only I had a use for them
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:44:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:45:02 PM EDT
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www.atlasvanlines.com

www.mayflower.com

www.fuckobama.com


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Originally Posted By Proto3:
If only I had a use for them


www.atlasvanlines.com

www.mayflower.com

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LOL

If only it were that simple.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:47:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 2:51:15 PM EDT by STJ]
So whats the consensus on these.

I want to set up a trust for quick efile form 1s.

I allready have two suppressors via personal form 4s

How would this be better than doing my own by following the info in the general class 3 section

Oh yes in before the 'go to the lawyer $$$' crowd.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:47:09 PM EDT
Great deal. I was in on the last one. Waiting on a stamp for an SBR right now.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:55:14 PM EDT
Couple of years ago this would have been a fantastic deal.

But from what I read the ATF is changing the rules so that even on a trust you will need to do the same things as if you were an individual.

Getting the CLEO signature being the most prominent change.

If that is not the case and I am in error ...... I apologize for the mistake.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:56:39 PM EDT
Thanks for the heads up.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:57:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By STJ:
So whats the consensus on these.

I want to set up a trust for quick efile form 1s.

I allready have two suppressors via personal form 4s

How would this be better than doing my own by following the info in the general class 3 section

Oh yes in before the 'go to the lawyer $$$' crowd.
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It was worth $60 for me to have a ready made document that I knew would pass inspection if need be. All you do is print it, notarize it and add something to it. Done.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 2:58:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By oldschoolimages:
Couple of years ago this would have been a fantastic deal.

But from what I read the ATF is changing the rules so that even on a trust you will need to do the same things as if you were an individual.

Getting the CLEO signature being the most prominent change.

If that is not the case and I am in error ...... I apologize for the mistake.
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None of that is set in stone. Even if it did go through, there are other reasons to have a trust rather than just getting around tax stamp application requirements.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 3:00:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:

None of that is set in stone. Even if it did go through, there are other reasons to have a trust rather than just getting around tax stamp application requirements.
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Originally Posted By oldschoolimages:
Couple of years ago this would have been a fantastic deal.

But from what I read the ATF is changing the rules so that even on a trust you will need to do the same things as if you were an individual.

Getting the CLEO signature being the most prominent change.

If that is not the case and I am in error ...... I apologize for the mistake.

None of that is set in stone. Even if it did go through, there are other reasons to have a trust rather than just getting around tax stamp application requirements.


The multiple trusties being one.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 3:19:52 PM EDT
Thanks! I got one.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 3:29:25 PM EDT
How legitimate is 199trust? Anybody have a form kicked back as a result of the trust they write up? Do they write it to coincide with the laws of each particular state or is it it kind of a blanket NFA trust?

Really considering getting one if they are legit.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 3:35:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By camoman33935:
How legitimate is 199trust? Anybody have a form kicked back as a result of the trust they write up? Do they write it to coincide with the laws of each particular state or is it it kind of a blanket NFA trust?

Really considering getting one if they are legit.
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I think they sold a few thousand of them last time they were on sale.


Link Posted: 11/27/2014 3:58:42 PM EDT
Any one here used them?
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 4:06:07 PM EDT
I am looking through these two threads...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_20/435444_NFA__Trust.html

and

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/434977_Best_place_for_a_Trust_for_NFA_Items_.html

Not a real clear cut answer either way with regards to these types of trusts in general...
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 4:32:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By camoman33935:
How legitimate is 199trust? Anybody have a form kicked back as a result of the trust they write up? Do they write it to coincide with the laws of each particular state or is it it kind of a blanket NFA trust?

Really considering getting one if they are legit.
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They are fine. Been around a little while.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 4:41:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 8:02:55 PM EDT by Kuryakyn]
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Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Any one here used them?
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ETA: so far 6 NFA items and counting on my 199trust
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 7:57:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Any one here used them?




I'd like to know this too.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:01:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2014 8:01:45 PM EDT by jlpayne]
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Yes I have great experience! Emailed to me in two hours, and have already had two e forms approved and waiting on two paper forms.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:01:52 PM EDT
I fent. Time to start reading the suppressor forum.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:03:56 PM EDT
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SBR form 1's are taking about a month.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:22:18 PM EDT
Dammit, just what I need to spend money on
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:36:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By oldschoolimages:
Couple of years ago this would have been a fantastic deal.

But from what I read the ATF is changing the rules so that even on a trust you will need to do the same things as if you were an individual.

Getting the CLEO signature being the most prominent change.

If that is not the case and I am in error ...... I apologize for the mistake.
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Guy i bought a g17tb from last night said we have till may???
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 8:47:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kuryakyn:




ETA: so far 6 NFA items and counting on my 199trust
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Originally Posted By Kuryakyn:
Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Any one here used them?




ETA: so far 6 NFA items and counting on my 199trust


Is it a Revocable Trust? You can name friends and family members? Also, I read that with 199trust you cant name the trust, is that true?
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 9:00:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71:


Is it a Revocable Trust? You can name friends and family members? Also, I read that with 199trust you cant name the trust, is that true?
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Originally Posted By KimberZ71:
Originally Posted By Kuryakyn:
Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Any one here used them?




ETA: so far 6 NFA items and counting on my 199trust


Is it a Revocable Trust? You can name friends and family members? Also, I read that with 199trust you cant name the trust, is that true?


Yes
Yes
No
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 9:03:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kuryakyn:
Originally Posted By KimberZ71:
Originally Posted By Kuryakyn:
Originally Posted By BallisticTip:
Any one here used them?




ETA: so far 6 NFA items and counting on my 199trust


Is it a Revocable Trust? You can name friends and family members? Also, I read that with 199trust you cant name the trust, is that true?


Yes
Yes
No


Thanks for your time
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 9:39:31 PM EDT
Hopefully they have this deal next week.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 10:30:08 PM EDT
Thanks OP, finally bit the bullet.
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 10:33:24 PM EDT
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3 days only
Link Posted: 11/27/2014 10:33:53 PM EDT
These online gun trust sites work? I mean, they are considered technically acceptable by the ATF? Seems awfully easy to me.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 12:24:11 AM EDT
Damn, placed my order at 8:00PM and got my paperwork emailed to me at 10:00PM...on Thanksgiving . I'm planing on a few more SBR's and getting into suppresors
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 12:32:08 AM EDT
Can I put my kids on this trust as well?

Link Posted: 11/28/2014 12:35:08 AM EDT
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Thanks OP, finally bit the bullet.
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After being on the fence about this for months, I finally fent as well.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 12:39:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Can I put my kids on this trust as well?

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Yes sir
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 11:14:44 AM EDT
I fent...
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 11:40:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 11:40:34 AM EDT by TZ250]
dupe
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 12:00:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 12:01:38 PM EDT by FlashHole]
I know some rules are changing regarding NFA and trusts, so my question is, would it benefit me to go ahead and set up a trust even though I have no immediate plans to purchase any NFA items? Is that even possible?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:03:46 PM EDT
Just bought one. Its time to make a supressor
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:27:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 1:28:06 PM EDT by 53vortec]
Thanks for the heads up. I missed the boat on the last one but got it this time.

Now I'm just debating if I should set it up for my current county of residence since I'll probably be moving next year.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:40:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2014 1:44:15 PM EDT by Mach]
Which code do I use at 199trust.com

Is it the #Voucher Code in the top right hand corner

or

is it the number below

Redeem At:
199trust
number <<<<<< this number?

ETA.

Crap, I used the wrong number.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:44:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
Which code do I use at 199trust.com

Is it the #Voucher Code in the top right hand corner

or

is it the number below

Redeem At:
199trust
number <<<<<< this number?
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#Voucher Code
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 1:49:55 PM EDT
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#Voucher Code
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Originally Posted By TuskenRaider:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Which code do I use at 199trust.com

Is it the #Voucher Code in the top right hand corner

or

is it the number below

Redeem At:
199trust
number <<<<<< this number?



#Voucher Code



I used the wrong number the first time. Will they just disregard it? I used the voucher number the second time with a note about the first time mistake not using the voucher number.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 2:01:28 PM EDT
So what's the deal. Is that law or whatever for sure going through?
Every time I see something about it, it just gets pushed back a few months.

Link Posted: 11/28/2014 2:54:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mudzilla:
So what's the deal. Is that law or whatever for sure going through?
Every time I see something about it, it just gets pushed back a few months.

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Typically, once a question is asked more than once in a thread, with no answer, I've noticed that question tends to be one with no definitive answer. I'm guessing none of the stamp gurus knows for sure yet.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 3:19:03 PM EDT
Just ordered. Thanks OP!

Link Posted: 11/28/2014 3:26:26 PM EDT
Whats the new NFA law people are talking about?
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 7:48:00 PM EDT
Do you guys that have 199trust generated trusts have this ?

Page 13 para 6:

Manner in which title should be taken: The full name of the trust which shall be used for purposes of transferring assets in to the Trust, holding title of assets. and conducting business for and on behalf of the trust is:

"ABC Trustr, by First Name Middile Name Last Name, Settlor"

WTF? And does that mean the whole thing including my name has to be engraved on the lower for an SBR.

I named my trust my initials " ABC Trust"

why is that not the full name?

Anybody have any idea.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
Do you guys that have 199trust generated trusts have this ?

Page 13 para 6:

Manner in which title should be taken: The full name of the trust which shall be used for purposes of transferring assets in to the Trust, holding title of assets. and conducting business for and on behalf of the trust is:

"ABC Trustr, by First Name Middile Name Last Name, Settlor"

WTF? And does that mean the whole thing including my name has to be engraved on the lower for an SBR.

I named my trust my initials " ABC Trust"

why is that not the full name?

Anybody have any idea.
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Yes, did mine today, have same thing. I *think* the name "ABC Trust" is sufficient for engraving purposes.
Link Posted: 11/28/2014 8:23:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By heavily_armed:


Yes, did mine today, have same thing. I *think* the name "ABC Trust" is sufficient for engraving purposes.
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Originally Posted By heavily_armed:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Do you guys that have 199trust generated trusts have this ?

Page 13 para 6:

Manner in which title should be taken: The full name of the trust which shall be used for purposes of transferring assets in to the Trust, holding title of assets. and conducting business for and on behalf of the trust is:

"ABC Trustr, by First Name Middile Name Last Name, Settlor"

WTF? And does that mean the whole thing including my name has to be engraved on the lower for an SBR.

I named my trust my initials " ABC Trust"

why is that not the full name?

Anybody have any idea.


Yes, did mine today, have same thing. I *think* the name "ABC Trust" is sufficient for engraving purposes.


Just got an email from the owner of 199trust, he said the same thing.

However the ATF says the full legal name of the trust must be engraved.

So I am confused.
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