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Posted: 9/21/2002 6:43:00 PM EDT
Brothers- Here is a good web site I recently found. It has lots of interesting topics and good documentation. [url]www.carm.org[/url] Check it out. [8d]
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:16:43 PM EDT
You inspired me to contribute my share to helping the good people @ AR15.com to another angle on the subject.[;)] [url]http://www.positiveatheism.org/[/url] [b]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?[/b] -(Epicurus)
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:30:03 PM EDT
Thanks Grock,it's a shame athiests can't pass over any topic having to do with Christians with out hypocrytically prostelatizing.
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:45:31 PM EDT
Its an open forum. I have no fear of nothing- do you have no fear of something?
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:48:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Grock: Its an open forum.
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That's right, it is...isn't it? And frankly there's nothing hypocritical about my post what so ever, just information for those so inclinded to look at. Nothing to fear.
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:49:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Grock:I have no fear of nothing- do you have no fear of something?
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damn, you made me crank up the ol' math/symbolic-logic circuits on a Saturday night while starting into my 5th sprecher abbey triple
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 7:52:28 PM EDT
I don't fear prostelatizing athiests if thats what you mean but I do think it's a shame. Now I do fear for some people who will have to try and explain their actions to a God they did not think was real.
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 8:04:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4: You inspired me to contribute my share to helping the good people @ AR15.com to another angle on the subject.[;)] [url]http://www.positiveatheism.org/[/url] [b]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?[/b] -(Epicurus)
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what a scorching you will get when Gabriel blows his horn
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 8:34:23 PM EDT
[sleep][sleep][sleep][sleep][sleep][sleep] But what about Thor....and Oden....oh yeah...Isis too!!! And Shiva.....oh no!!!! Run!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 9:47:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4: [b]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?[/b] -(Epicurus)
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[b]M4[/b], do you have any children?
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 9:50:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: [b]M4[/b], do you have any children?
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One must reach puberty before that is possible.
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 10:14:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zonan:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: [b]M4[/b], do you have any children?
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One must reach puberty before that is possible.
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Now, now [b]zonan[/b] be nice. I'm just trying to engage an atheist in a simple dialogue, not start a flamefest. He posed a very simple question that has a very simple answer, but I just thought I'd try a different tact. Just to be different.
Link Posted: 9/21/2002 11:17:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Macallan: Now, now [b]zonan[/b] be nice. I'm just trying to engage an atheist in a simple dialogue, not start a flamefest. He posed a very simple question that has a very simple answer, but I just thought I'd try a different tact. Just to be different.
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I wish you all the best then. One would think that a title like "for fellow Christians..." might lead a rational, pubescent, non-Christian to the conclusion that this may be an inappropriate place for his atheistic efforts. Good luck.
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 1:09:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By zonan:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: Now, now [b]zonan[/b] be nice. I'm just trying to engage an atheist in a simple dialogue, not start a flamefest. He posed a very simple question that has a very simple answer, but I just thought I'd try a different tact. Just to be different.
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I wish you all the best then. One would think that a title like "for fellow Christians..." might lead a rational, pubescent, non-Christian to the conclusion that this may be an inappropriate place for his atheistic efforts. Good luck.
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If you acknowledge other gods(the ones that you mentioned) Then your are not an athiest,as you know of other gods just don't want to enclude the real deal! Does Thor ,Oden,Isis fair any better at stopping the carnage that godless men do? Bob [:D]
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 5:31:54 AM EDT
Why does God allow evil? [url]http://www.khouse.org/articles/personal/19990601-74.html[/url]
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 5:55:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bobbyjack:
Originally Posted By zonan:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: Now, now [b]zonan[/b] be nice. I'm just trying to engage an atheist in a simple dialogue, not start a flamefest. He posed a very simple question that has a very simple answer, but I just thought I'd try a different tact. Just to be different.
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I wish you all the best then. One would think that a title like "for fellow Christians..." might lead a rational, pubescent, non-Christian to the conclusion that this may be an inappropriate place for his atheistic efforts. Good luck.
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If you acknowledge other gods(the ones that you mentioned) Then your are not an athiest,as you know of other gods just don't want to enclude the real deal![red] Does Thor ,Oden,Isis fair any better at stopping the carnage that godless men do?[/red] Bob [:D]
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....so I guess anyone that went to war,mans greatest pastime,and killed/maimed/or caused great bodily harm to other people,will go straight to hell...unless they're truly sorry and ask[rolleyes] the lord for[rolleyes] forgiveness.....O'but the government said war was ok,so they get a pass____right?[rolleyes]
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 6:24:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 308wood:
Originally Posted By M4: You inspired me to contribute my share to helping the good people @ AR15.com to another angle on the subject.[;)] [url]http://www.positiveatheism.org/[/url] [b]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?[/b] -(Epicurus)
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what a scorching you will get when Gabriel blows his horn
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308wood, Matthew 7:1-2, NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 6:29:06 AM EDT
Thanks Grock, cool site. M4, does your Mamma know you're on the computer again?
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 6:42:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bobbyjack: Does Thor ,Oden,Isis fair any better at stopping the carnage that godless men do? Bob [:D]
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Ummmm....what carnage is it exactly that "godless" men do? History seems to be full of carnage, created by those that [i]do[/i] believe in a god. We've been through this though, dozens of times on this site. Chosing to ignore history seems to be becoming a theme around here.
Link Posted: 9/22/2002 8:03:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4:
Originally Posted By bobbyjack: Does Thor ,Oden,Isis fair any better at stopping the carnage that godless men do? Bob [:D]
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Ummmm....what carnage is it exactly that "godless" men do? History seems to be full of carnage, created by those that [i]do[/i] believe in a god. We've been through this though, dozens of times on this site. Chosing to ignore history seems to be becoming a theme around here.
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Talk about ignoring history! [rolleyes] Stalin 20-40 million murdered Mao 50-80 million murdered Hitler 10-16 million murdered Pol Pot 2 million murdered In the 20 century, there has been about 100 million innocent people murdered BY their own [b]ATHEISTIC[/b] Communist Governments. More recently: Sudan - 2 million murdered Rwanda - 1 million murdered
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