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Posted: 8/7/2004 12:16:49 PM EST
does anyone know of any websites that sell name brand sunglasses for cheap, specifically oakleys. I had a pair of m frames i bought about 3 years ago online bran new from a website for $45, stupid me I lost themI don't remember what the website was.
Link Posted: 8/7/2004 7:41:06 PM EST
Up for the Nite crew
Link Posted: 8/7/2004 11:28:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/7/2004 11:32:39 PM EST
Possibly a dealer going out of business?
Link Posted: 8/7/2004 11:56:07 PM EST
Look for the CM mark on the inside of the frame. If it does not have it then they are fake. Around here fake oakleys are going for $5-10.00. I have a pair of e-wires that are real and cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for. I would think that your m-frames were fake or you were extremally lucky and stumbled on one hell of a deal.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 3:53:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 3:54:17 AM EST by Dru]
There's a local flea-market around here that sells oakley's for like $5.00........ We call 'em Joakleys..... Best damn copies I've ever seen, even has the 'Oakley' name
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 3:55:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Troy:
Oakley tightly controls the retail prices on their products, and will pull the accounts of retailers that don't comply. Thus, if you find somewhere that is selling Oakleys at a discount, especially a large one, they're probably fakes.

-Troy



+1
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 4:01:11 AM EST
Oakley will sell to military and LEO their SI line for about 50 percent off, but you have to have a min order of $200. Allot of items and lens choices are not in their SI line catalogue, however if you call them they will quote a price for you on them of the none listed items.


Military exchanges often have good prices on Oakleys, last year the MCX at Lejeune was selling Polarized Oakleys for 29.95, AAFES about once ever six months has a 30 percent off sale on its Oakleys.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 4:03:02 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 4:04:32 AM EST
Cheap + Oakley = FOakleys = Fake Oakleys
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 4:46:36 AM EST
I had a pair of Staight Jackets from the Sunglass Hut and a pair ($5) from a Vegas street vender. The markings were identical everywhere but the $5 pair lasted about two weeks and I've been wearing the real Jackets off and on for about three years. You get what you pay for.

Link Posted: 8/8/2004 5:27:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 5:28:28 AM EST by YANKEEFAN]
I love the Oakley pro-m frame design but I have broken to many of theri sunglasses in the past. I now buy exclusively fake Oakley's. This the one website that I usually buy from:
Relica Sunglasses
There are many others out there, you just have to google fake oakley's. They seem almost as good as the real thing just at a lot lower price. I bought my latest two pair for $20 each.

Link Posted: 8/8/2004 5:43:15 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 5:45:38 AM EST
I can really tell a difference between the clarity of the lenses with fake and original Oakleys. Only original ones for me.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 6:56:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 6:59:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 8:10:08 AM EST by Searcherfortruth]

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...



Hold on while I get some popcorn, & beer. I ben here before.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 7:01:11 AM EST
Well most of Oakley's price is profit (notice they sell to military and LEO at 1/2 the price and still making a profit) but they are still good glasses.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 7:24:02 AM EST
I thought the lenses would fit the better fakes. Why couldn't you just put the real lenses in and still have cheaper glasses?
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 8:03:16 AM EST


I bought my M-Frames at Dillion Percision. That's the Blue Press! And yes I got the Polorized lenses.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 9:10:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By YANKEEFAN:
I love the Oakley pro-m frame design but I have broken to many of theri sunglasses in the past. I now buy exclusively fake Oakley's. This the one website that I usually buy from:
Relica Sunglasses
There are many others out there, you just have to google fake oakley's. They seem almost as good as the real thing just at a lot lower price. I bought my latest two pair for $20 each.




One of the reasons Oakleys probably cost so much is due to the cost of the lawyers they have to hire to protect their designs and patents. Anytime the frames break, even after warranty, Oakley will replace the frames for $19.



Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:07:59 AM EST
I couldn't find any polorized oakleys for less than 100 so i settled for guard dogs eyewear, sidecars for 90. they are pretty cool check them out at there website guard dogs eyewear, tell me what you guys think
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:28:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:31:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:32:20 AM EST
Unless replacement eyes are cheap, don't wear cheap sunglasses.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:39:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...



Distortion free optical clarity and protection from the truly harmful UVA and UVB rays from the sun.

Rite-Aid sunglasses won't hack it. Sorry.



Even the $10 ones with the "UV Protection" sticker on the lens?? Plus, all of the Smoakley's I have seen were distortion free. Face it, there all cheap plastic. You just choose to pay 10x more.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:42:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:43:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Troy:
Oakley tightly controls the retail prices on their products, and will pull the accounts of retailers that don't comply. Thus, if you find somewhere that is selling Oakleys at a discount, especially a large one, they're probably fakes.

-Troy



Price fixing is illegal (for whatever that's worth). My understanding is that they can only mandate a minimum advertised price, which is why you have to "call for price" on a lot of high-end goods.

jafager
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:45:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:45:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
One downside to buying the fakes is that you have no idea whether or not the lenses actually block 100% of UVA and UVB like Oakleys, or whether the lenses meet/exceed the military standard for ballistic protection.



The point above that Jarhead_22 makes is extremely important. I know my old eyes are worth the dollars I spent on the real McCoy's, are yours?
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:46:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Jason280:
Even the $10 ones with the "UV Protection" sticker on the lens?? Plus, all of the Smoakley's I have seen were distortion free. Face it, there all cheap plastic. You just choose to pay 10x more.



Force Recon vet Pat Rogers says that even Bolle sunglasses have distortion. Oakleys are the best in his years of experience. If they're good enough for Force Recon Marines, they're plenty good enough for me.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:48:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:50:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:

Originally Posted By gotm4:
Unless replacement eyes are cheap, don't wear cheap sunglasses.



So where would I go about getting a pair of perscription Oakleys?



I have a set of prescription metal frame Oakleys that I got from my eye doctor earlier this year. Pretty pricey. When I wear contact lenses I use Oakley M frames or Half Jackets.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:53:34 AM EST
The ironic thing is that I tend to wear my cheap sunglasses under more stressful conditions than my good ones.

I can't bring myself to wear a $100 pair of sunglasses on the beach where sand is flying everywhere. Nor do I wear them when doing strenuous activities like whitewater canoing as I don't want to lose $100 in a split second when I hit a wave wrong.

Ed
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 10:59:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By jafager:

Originally Posted By Troy:
Oakley tightly controls the retail prices on their products, and will pull the accounts of retailers that don't comply. Thus, if you find somewhere that is selling Oakleys at a discount, especially a large one, they're probably fakes.

-Troy



Price fixing is illegal (for whatever that's worth). My understanding is that they can only mandate a minimum advertised price, which is why you have to "call for price" on a lot of high-end goods.

jafager



Wrong. If they do not like the price the retailer has set, they in turn can quit selling to that retailer.

Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:01:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:02:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...



Distortion free optical clarity and protection from the truly harmful UVA and UVB rays from the sun.

Rite-Aid sunglasses won't hack it. Sorry.



Even the $10 ones with the "UV Protection" sticker on the lens?? Plus, all of the Smoakley's I have seen were distortion free. Face it, there all cheap plastic. You just choose to pay 10x more.



Keep telling yourself that kid.....

I'm not sure you would know distortion, or lack thereof, if it bit you on the ass.



Well, Shivan, you have won the "Moron Comment of the Day" contest. Congratulations! But don't worry, I'm sure you will be able to outdo yourself in no time at all.

Distortion is subjective to the individual. Some people have better eyes than others. Apparently you must be the premier judge of distortion, or at least you proclaim to be. Sunglasses are sunglasses. A $10 pair of UV protected sunglasses give you the same level of protection as a $180 pair of Oakleys, and I challenge anyone to prove that statement wrong. If it hurts your feelings to find out a $10 pair of glasses are just as good as a pair 10x more, then apparently you are just a little too sensitive and insecure.

But, if you want to pay that much for them, be my guest. Just don't me so audacious as to suggest I don't know what distortion is, nor am I able to spot it. It basically shows what a dumbass you are. Good luck with your witty response!
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:09:06 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:13:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By jafager:

Originally Posted By Troy:
Oakley tightly controls the retail prices on their products, and will pull the accounts of retailers that don't comply. Thus, if you find somewhere that is selling Oakleys at a discount, especially a large one, they're probably fakes.

-Troy



Price fixing is illegal (for whatever that's worth). My understanding is that they can only mandate a minimum advertised price, which is why you have to "call for price" on a lot of high-end goods.

jafager



Most high-end products have a minimum retail price set by the mfr. This is to try to keep the retailers in business by giving them enough of a margin. Internet sales, a great thing for us consumers, is driving storefronts out of business. My FFL was telling me that there's some 'net outfit somewhere was selling Leupold scopes for 10 bucks over what Leupold charges HIM. There's no way a store can survive off a $10 margin on a $900 scope.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:37:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 11:38:20 AM EST by LashLaRue]

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...



Distortion free optical clarity and protection from the truly harmful UVA and UVB rays from the sun.

Rite-Aid sunglasses won't hack it. Sorry.



Even the $10 ones with the "UV Protection" sticker on the lens?? Plus, all of the Smoakley's I have seen were distortion free. Face it, there all cheap plastic. You just choose to pay 10x more.



Keep telling yourself that kid.....

I'm not sure you would know distortion, or lack thereof, if it bit you on the ass.



Well, Shivan, you have won the "Moron Comment of the Day" contest. Congratulations! But don't worry, I'm sure you will be able to outdo yourself in no time at all.

Distortion is subjective to the individual. Some people have better eyes than others. Apparently you must be the premier judge of distortion, or at least you proclaim to be. Sunglasses are sunglasses. A $10 pair of UV protected sunglasses give you the same level of protection as a $180 pair of Oakleys, and I challenge anyone to prove that statement wrong. If it hurts your feelings to find out a $10 pair of glasses are just as good as a pair 10x more, then apparently you are just a little too sensitive and insecure.

But, if you want to pay that much for them, be my guest. Just don't me so audacious as to suggest I don't know what distortion is, nor am I able to spot it. It basically shows what a dumbass you are. Good luck with your witty response!



Both of those statements are very wrong. Break down a buy a real pair and maybe you'll figure it out.

Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:37:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By Jason280:
Well, Shivan, you have won the "Moron Comment of the Day" contest. Congratulations! But don't worry, I'm sure you will be able to outdo yourself in no time at all.

Distortion is subjective to the individual. Some people have better eyes than others. Apparently you must be the premier judge of distortion, or at least you proclaim to be. Sunglasses are sunglasses. A $10 pair of UV protected sunglasses give you the same level of protection as a $180 pair of Oakleys, and I challenge anyone to prove that statement wrong. If it hurts your feelings to find out a $10 pair of glasses are just as good as a pair 10x more, then apparently you are just a little too sensitive and insecure.

But, if you want to pay that much for them, be my guest. Just don't me so audacious as to suggest I don't know what distortion is, nor am I able to spot it. It basically shows what a dumbass you are. Good luck with your witty response!



Standards of distortion are not subjective. Sorry. Try again. They may be subjective to the individual wearer, just as adjustment on a rifle scope's diopter may vary from shooter to shooter. However, the baseline, or zero, is a measurable constant.

There are folks on this board who know quite a bit more about these things than I, and it's comforting to know that they would agree with me -- not you.

Sunglasses are NOT sunglasses. In fact, until recently, the only way to achieve the optical clarity of Oakleys and other poly lensed glasses was to invest in ground glass eyewear.

BTW, Oakleys also come in several metal alloys that are pretty damn sturdy.

Though, I'm sure you knew that.....plastic is plastic ------ er, except when it's metal.....right?



Well, I have to say your response bordered on intelligent this time. Distortion is subjective, and it is dependant on the indivicual. Sure, you may be able to achieve your baseline of zero, but will everyone be able to visually tell minute variations from zero distortion? Probably not. You can make things as clear or "distortion" free as you want, but it makes no difference to someone who can't distinguish between the two. I'm sure you can understand that. Oh, it is comforting to know people will agree with you and not me, especially if that makes you feel more secure.

I would be willing to bet that most people (>90%) would not be able to tell the difference between actual Oakley lenses and copies. But don't get me wrong, if you want to pay $100+, be my guest. Actually, why don't you just come out and say you like buying expensive sunglasses? It really doesn't matter to me, and it might help you with your sunglass insecurities.

As far as the metal framed Oakleys, they are still no sturdier than most metal sunglasses. They all break, for the most part. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining about expensive sunglasses. My GF actually bought me a pair of $300+ Maui Jim's, and I wear them all the time. The have the memory frames, and you can bend the hell out of them and they just pop back in to shape. Since I own a pair of expensive sunglasses, does that make me "cooler" now?
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:43:37 AM EST
people who think that good eyewear should cost over 100$ are high on crack.

oakley sunglasses are like bose stereos.

the price you pay is 10% for the product and 90% for marketing.

honestly, i'd rather buy no name glasses that meet ANSI or other impact specs (i.e. wont shatter) and block UVA/B and pay the 25-40$ they cost versus throwing away 50-75$ on footing the bill for someone elses marketing expenses to maintain their "brand image"

i used to swear by oakleys but i honestly grew tired of sending my 150$ plastic glasses back everytime they broke. granted they were replaced for free, but i spent as much on postage as anything else.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:48:48 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 11:59:45 AM EST by SHIVAN]
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:51:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 12:11:07 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:54:40 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:55:50 AM EST
optical distortion in common plastic lenses can range from severe to quite minimal and depends primarily on the shape of the glasses -mainly the curvature of the lens-

oakleys may be innovative in that they are able to twist plastic lenses into good aerodynamic and low profile shapes while maintianing a fairly low level of distortion. their ability to come up with cool looking, form fitting wraparound shades has without a doubt forced them to maximize the optical quilities of their lenses.

this is not to say that a much cheaper pair of glasses with a more conservative style where the lens sits further away from the eye and has a larger lens altogether (such as aviator style glasses) cannot be every pit as effective if not moreso than the whiz-bang oakleys.

no, they will not be as aerodynamic

no, they will not look as cool

no, they will not look as "tactical"

yes, they will cost you about 25%-50% of the price.


mind you, if i could get a pair of regular m frames for 55-60$ i'd buy a pair
i will not however needlessly throw away money on what is often a "throw-away" item.

by that I mean that all sunglasses (although oakleys are any more immune than any other maker) are fragile and easily scratched, bent and damaged by the kind of activities that we need them on for.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 11:56:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Jason280:

Originally Posted By Omni:
...cost my wife $180.00 at the local sunglass hut. This is a case of you get what you pay for...



What in the hell can you possibly get from a pair of $180 sunglasses?? Can you honetly say a $180 pair of Oakley's is better than a $5-10 pair of Smoakley's? They are all made of plastic, and all of 'em will break if you step on them, but to say one pair is better because you paid $180 for them is a little insane...

Kind of like saying Colt makes a better AR because it costs more...



So you buy you're corrective lenses at the flea market too right, because its the same thing, right? right?





Go away, and come back when you have something logical to add to the discussion. We are talking about sunglasses here, or did you miss that part??

The Maui Jim's were a gift, so the argument still stands. Are they better than $10 sunglasses? The answer is still no, but it is fun to twist the frames around and not have them break!
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 12:01:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 12:01:58 PM EST by Jason280]
I don't understand why you are being so defensive. You don't need to defend or explain your reasoning behind buying Oakleys. Its perfectly OK with me. If you want to own ten pair, be my guest. I just think it is crazy to go out and pay that much for something you can get for 90% cheaper. Would I have personally bought the Maui Jim's? Hell, no! Does that mean I won't wear them because they are expensive? The answer is "NO" again.

Buy what you want, its your money!

Link Posted: 8/8/2004 12:02:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:

Originally Posted By colinjay:
people who think that good eyewear should cost over 100$ are high on crack.

oakley sunglasses are like bose stereos.

the price you pay is 10% for the product and 90% for marketing.

honestly, i'd rather buy no name glasses that meet ANSI or other impact specs (i.e. wont shatter) and block UVA/B and pay the 25-40$ they cost versus throwing away 50-75$ on footing the bill for someone elses marketing expenses to maintain their "brand image"

i used to swear by oakleys but i honestly grew tired of sending my 150$ plastic glasses back everytime they broke. granted they were replaced for free, but i spent as much on postage as anything else.



I don't think they need to be any certain price, I was willing to pay for a set of glasses that I could adpat to whatever use or activity I was doing that day -- from clear lenses to 9% transmission lenses without having to keep a bunch of different glasses around....

I use mine for playing softball, volleyball and flag football. I broke one pair of 5 year old M-Frames while body surfing in Va Beach. Dove through a wave and the earpiece cracked a little....

I've never broken another pair.

I guess if you are a clutz, or prone to losing stuff, then maybe Rite-Aid $2 specials are your thing....

I don't buy Oakleys to be "cool", they were the only sunglasses to offer the package of things I was looking for....mainly interchangeability and protection.

YMMV....



the oakleys that i had big problems with were the original (circa 1995-96) straight jackets. at the thinnest point on the earpiece (under the earsock) and also toward the dinky snap-in hinge they were prone to breaking during any sort of physical activity.

i had two pairs one was the expensive full-metal jackets and the other was a pair of the regular black jackets.

i also had a pair of e-wires that i liked better but they (sadly) were stolen and i was out a shitload of cash.

trust me when i say that "looking cool" is most peoples #1 priority in buying sunglasses. you may not be looking for them to look cool but i gurantee that 99.99% of others sure are...
my damn self included :P

the glasses that i wear right now are purely "fashion" shades that i got a helluva deal on.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 12:03:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 12:05:17 PM EST by SHIVAN]
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 12:04:02 PM EST
does anyone know what the prices are for the SI series? namely the basic M frames?

i am curious.
Link Posted: 8/8/2004 12:04:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/8/2004 12:04:35 PM EST by urbankaos04]
Whew boy! I guess I should just thank my lucky stars that I qaulify for Oakley's LE discount! I LOVE my Oakley Straight Jackets and looking to purchase their M Frames with Strike lens and SI XX's.
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