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Posted: 9/19/2009 7:08:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:08:45 PM EST by flyfishnepa]


so i've been puffing on my e-cigarette pretty much non-stop all day and now i'm starting to get a little lightheaded

and figured before i passed out i would ask on here first.

it's the high nicotine smoke juice (24 mg) btw.



ETA: 'cool story bro' is an acceptable response




Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:10:39 PM EST
Without being qualified to say so, I would guess that you most certainly can od with nicotine.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:11:48 PM EST
I beleive there was an OD on the patches a few years ago. Try google before you pass out or just don't suck so hard.

Good luck
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:11:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:12:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes, you can overdose on nicotine, it is a very powerful toxin, and in fairly small amounts can be fatal. If you are feeling light headed and feel it if from the fake cigarette machine, then lay off the fugazi camel for a while.

Yep...

IIRC, nicotine has been used as an insecticide before...
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:13:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:13:37 PM EST by America-first]
There is enough pure nicotine in a single cigarette to kill several people if it is all absorbed into the blood stream.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:13:14 PM EST
Yep.....it doesn't take too much either. Very potent and toxic.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:13:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:15:11 PM EST by replicators]
A brief foray into google says you can.
First-aid measures and management principles
There are no known antidotes.

Immediate establishment of an airway, monitoring of breathing
patterns, and maintenance of circulation are essential in
cases of serious overdose. Preparations for possible seizures
or rapid progression to coma and artificial ventilation
procedures should be kept ready, oxygen may be required.

If vomiting has not occurred following nicotine ingestion,
remove stomach contents by gastric lavage. Induction of
emesis is less preferable to lavage since convulsions or coma
may intervene.

Single or multiple doses of activated charcoal may be used.
Children who ingest more than one cigarette should receive
activated charcoal and medical observation for at least
several hours.

If nicotine is spilled on the skin, immediately wash
thoroughly with running water (avoid warm water).

Seizure activity and agitation can be controlled with diazepam
or barbiturates.

Cholinergic symptoms may be ameliorated with atropine.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:14:14 PM EST
You can overdose on water.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:14 PM EST
And

7.2 Toxicity
7.2.1 Human data
7.2.1.1 Adults
The mean lethal dose has been estimated to be 30
to 60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) (Gosselin, 1988).
7.2.1.2 Children
The lethal dose is considered to be about 10 mg
of nicotine (Arena, 1974).
7.2.2 Relevant animal data
Dog: oral LD50: 9.2 mg/kg
mouse: oral LD50: 3.3 mg/kg (RTECS, 1985-86)
rat: oral LD50: 50 mg/kg
7.2.3 Relevant in vitro data
No data available.
7.2.4 Workplace standards
MSHA standard air : TWA = 0.5 mg/m3 (skin)
OSHA standard air : TWA = 0.5 mg/m3 (skin)
(RTECS, 1985-86)
7.2.5 Acceptable daily intake (ADI) and other guideline levels
Not relevant.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:46 PM EST

alrighty

im think im done with it for the night.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:19:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:40:52 PM EST by CouncilOfDave]
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes, you can overdose on nicotine, it is a very powerful toxin, and in fairly small amounts can be fatal. If you are feeling light headed and feel it if from the fake cigarette machine, then lay off the fugazi camel for a while.

Yep...

IIRC, nicotine has been used as an insecticide before...


Yup. It's pretty poisonous in a large enough dose... which actually isn't that large at all... about 50mg for an adult, IIRC.

ETA - replicators posted it while I was hitting up da Google.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:20:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By ar15hookem:
...just don't suck so hard.


Heh.

Seriously though, an OD like this can be a matter of opinion. If you are doing something that causes you to feel less than good, stopping whatever it is might be prudent. On the other hand, it might be more fun not to stop...
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:28:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:30:55 PM EST by DSRV]
Dude, just go to the doctor and get a prescription for Chantix. 7 days later, you're an ex-smoker. One year for me this month, with no real side effects. smoked for 35+ years and tried everything.

Amazing.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:32:26 PM EST
Are you still on Chantix?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:38:43 PM EST
You can overdose on water. Surely, you can overdose on nicotine.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:40:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:44:14 PM EST by EladEflow]
Nicotine is a very lethal drug. It has a very low LD50 compared to many other toxins.
Soak a pack of cigarettes in a mug and drink the water, I dare you.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:43:14 PM EST
I don't know if you could by smoking it but I've smoked a cigar WAY too fast before and wound up hoping to either vomit or just plain die.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:43:47 PM EST
Well if two cans of Copenhagen per day doesn't do it, I'd say no.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:46:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By America-first:
There is enough pure nicotine in a single cigarette to kill several people if it is all absorbed into the blood stream.

There is usually less than 2 mg of nicotine in a cigarette, far below the dose to kill even one person. Even ingesting a cigarette will not do anything to an adult, though that amount will make a small child sick.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:46:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
Well if two cans of Copenhagen per day doesn't do it, I'd say no.



i've gotten a bit dizzy on days of heavy snuff dipping.

it takes a LOT to do it though
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:47:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
Well if two cans of Copenhagen per day doesn't do it, I'd say no.



damn dude.




Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:49:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By DSRV:
Dude, just go to the doctor and get a prescription for Chantix. 7 days later, you're an ex-smoker. One year for me this month, with no real side effects. smoked for 35+ years and tried everything.

Amazing.



Do what I did, get pneumonia, and the doctor says "Smoke or Breathe, your call". My longest off cigarettes was 10 years, this February, it'll be 4 years since the last time.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:49:34 PM EST
When you smoke, most of the nicotine burns away.

If you can extract nicotine into it's pure oily form, you can make poison darts.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:50:32 PM EST
I remember reading in one of those Anarchist's Cookbook type books that you can make poison by soaking cigarettes in water, and boiling the water off. The residue left is lethal.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:51:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By flyfishnepa:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
Well if two cans of Copenhagen per day doesn't do it, I'd say no.



damn dude.





Only happens now and then, I can usually keep it to a can.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:51:42 PM EST
Hell, the LD50 for caffeine is higher than some of the pesticides i've used.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:53:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 8:00:48 PM EST by familyman357]
When I was a MP on Okinawa ('96-'97), a big concern at the time was feral dogs (and to a lesser extent cats) on base. I don't know if the problem was ferals getting onto base from town or keeping ferals from getting out into town (the USMC wanted to try to maintain good relations with the locals, which wasn't always easy). We had (exactly) one dart rifle which was used to shoot feral dogs on sight. It fired a nicotine dart which killed the dog. In practical terms, I don't think it was ever used in the year I was there because a (bigger) concern was that because it took a while to kill the dog, it would run around and the dart could be lost (which could result in a REALLY bad day if a little kid subsequently found it).
So yeah, nicotine will kill ya.

ETA: AWESOME AVATAR, PATCHOULI! We have a copy of Jacques-Louis David's Oath of the Horatii here at the Toledo Museum of Art and it has long been one of my favorites!
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:55:15 PM EST
Originally Posted By flyfishnepa:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
Well if two cans of Copenhagen per day doesn't do it, I'd say no.



damn dude.






And here I thought I was bad at one can of Copenhagen per day.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:09:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 8:13:17 PM EST by DSRV]

Originally Posted By TexasDoubleTap:
Are you still on Chantix?


No. Only used it for 90 days. I really mean it when I say, amazing.

And in this last year I went through some really tough times, including the death of a brother. But I didn't fold. Really didn't even think about smoking too much. Occasional strong \ very strong urges, but they pass quickly.

Amazing.

Just do it. 7 days and your an ex- non-smoker.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:15:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By DSRV:

Originally Posted By TexasDoubleTap:
Are you still on Chantix?


No. Only used it for 90 days. I really mean it when I say, amazing.

And in this last year I went through some really tough times, including the death of a brother. But I didn't fold. Really didn't even think about smoking too much. Occasional strong \ very strong urges, but they pass quickly.

Amazing.

Just do it. 7 days and your an ex- non-smoker.



Is that some kind of nicotine patch or drug? Or does it really stop the body from craving for nicotine?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:16:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 8:17:44 PM EST by txharleyrider]
Just like any other drug or stimulant, yes you can.

Remember......Google is your friend.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:21:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes, you can overdose on nicotine, it is a very powerful toxin, and in fairly small amounts can be fatal. If you are feeling light headed and feel it if from the fake cigarette machine, then lay off the fugazi camel for a while.

Yep...

IIRC, nicotine has been used as an insecticide before...


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:23:14 PM EST
Nicotine is a poison.

My guess is yes.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:37:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By DSRV:

Originally Posted By TexasDoubleTap:
Are you still on Chantix?


No. Only used it for 90 days. I really mean it when I say, amazing.

And in this last year I went through some really tough times, including the death of a brother. But I didn't fold. Really didn't even think about smoking too much. Occasional strong \ very strong urges, but they pass quickly.

Amazing.

Just do it. 7 days and your an ex- non-smoker.



Is that some kind of nicotine patch or drug? Or does it really stop the body from craving for nicotine?

It's a pill that you take and ramp up the dosage over a few days. It's not a nicotine substitute like gum or patches. It actually inhibits the receptors in the brain. And, at the same, time stimulates those same receptors so you don't feel the edginess that comes from normal withdrawal symptoms.

Not for everybody, but I had no real side effects.

visit here: http://www.chantix.com/ Good luck.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:46:57 PM EST
Thanks, I'll look into it, I've been trying to quit for months. Usually I go about 2-3 days and then get pissed off at someone and start back up.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:49:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes, you can overdose on nicotine, it is a very powerful toxin, and in fairly small amounts can be fatal. If you are feeling light headed and feel it if from the fake cigarette machine, then lay off the fugazi camel for a while.

Yep...

IIRC, nicotine has been used as an insecticide before...


nicotine IS a insecticide, its made by the tobacco plant naturally to stop some types of insects. IIRC the tobacco businesses pump more nicotine in than natural levels when they make cigarettes.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:54:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:22:22 PM EST
LD50 for pure nicotine is 6 drops IIRC, meaning that 6 drops on your skin and you have 50/50 chance of dieing.

I vape 36 in a 5v device, if the e cig is new to you yes you can get the lightheaded feeling you used to get when you first started smoking. You can get PG ( pharm grade ) from Wallgreens and cut that 24 down a bit if it's too much for ya.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:30:21 PM EST
OP: keep puffing and you WILL get nicotine poisoning.

I have it if I smoke a cigar too fast, or when I dipped if I put a big enough lip in.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:37:22 PM EST
Too much of ANYTHING will kill you, remember the guy that wanted to pass his UA so he drank GALLONS of water in a short time and he ended up dying from it?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:42:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 9:42:43 PM EST by stealbear]
Originally Posted By txharleyrider:
Just like any other drug or stimulant, yes you can.

Remember......Google is your friend.


You can't OD on pot.


Also OP try smoking one of these.Then you can bitch about being light headed.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:49:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By stealbear:
Originally Posted By txharleyrider:
Just like any other drug or stimulant, yes you can.

Remember......Google is your friend.


You can't OD on pot.


Also OP try smoking one of these.Then you can bitch about being light headed.

http://www.laflordominicana.com/paginas/Ourcigar/DoubleLigero/doubleimages/Double_Ligero_03.jpg


Oh god... I smoke cigars once in awhile and they make me feel blitzed..
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 9:55:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 9:59:13 PM EST by g3shooter]
Here is what will happen...it is similar to alcohol poisoning.

I have suffered both of these several times.


1. You feel lightheaded
2. You feel happy
3. Your stomach begins to hurt
4. You feel nauseous
5. You sweat PROFUSELY, soak your clothes
6. You feel hot or cold...sometimes both alternating
7. You feel like throwing up again while sweating
8. You finally throw up
9. You still feel sick for several hours.



This is what happened the time I had 14 beers in 3 hours, and another time I smoked a whole Tatiana pretty quickly.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 10:02:13 PM EST
In before the trip to the hospital.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 1:27:03 AM EST
If I remember right, was a real problem for tobacco workers many years ago.

No one understood why field workers became ill, and sometimes die just from handling leaf all day.

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