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Posted: 8/17/2005 7:41:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 1:04:06 PM EDT by Inspector1]
im in a dilemma right now.. should i get some body armor of the ee or should i buy a optic for my ar or should i start a new build driving me crazy i hate enough money for 1 thing and not another...... and with this thing they are trying to ban body armor for civies now makes me wonder what should i spend my damn money on
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:47:38 PM EDT
Id get Body Armor, but thats me, the way I look at it, i already have 1 AR, and thats all I need (but not all I want ) and Scopes will always be available.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:49:04 PM EDT
The answer for a target shooter is the optic.


The answer for the opportunist is the body armor.

You can always use iron sights..but you may someday need body armor.

Also be prepared for the people calling you names for owning body armor for a .....rainy day.


Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:56:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
im in a dilemma right now.. should i get some body armor of the ee or should i buy a optic for my ar or should i start a new build driving me crazy i hate enough money for 1 thing and not another...... and with this thing they are trying to ban body armor for civies now makes me wonder what should i spend my damn money on



IMHO

Rifle, check
Body Armor, check
Fancy Optic, check

If you have none of any of the above, fill in the blank.

BTW, Rifles have sights.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:05:59 PM EDT
Rifle.

Me, personally, I've had hundreds of occasions to use one.

Never needed body armor yet...knock on wood.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:10:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:11:52 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]

Originally Posted By swingset:
Never needed body armor yet...knock on wood.


me neither had a couple of the cheaper IIA vests
wore one while being range officer at IPSC (get the occasional scary newbie)
I don't do that anymore
the one was brand new but almost 10 years old
i sold it cheap to a buddy who is a Hospital ninja in a bad part of town
the other that was dirty and worn I shot ....alot
yeah know what 10+ year old kevlar works fine
for 22 9mm 40 45 shotgun , no so good for 223 and 308
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:10:35 PM EDT
I vote for the Rifle.

If you buy body armor your neighbors will look at you funny when you're getting in your car to go to work everyday.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:13:21 PM EDT
Buy more ammo. You can always use a hail of bullets as your cover and body armor.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:13:39 PM EDT
How about a poll???

I would say body armor, but need more info.. You talking level II or III? Or just a plate carrier?

EPOCH
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:17:53 PM EDT
its level 3 body armor no plates nato releasable vest type for 200$ it has palls webbing all over it
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:18:12 PM EDT
Agreed what level body armor???
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:30:23 PM EDT
Ok, I have a couple sets of armor and I really don't think there is that much benefit. I mean, are you really going to need it. I would say get the optic. Get the rifle set up completely like you want it then move on. I think the idea of having some "armor" is somewhat over stated in its importance. It really depends on your need. Are you going to be hitting rooms in a SWAT scenario, where there is a good chance of getting shot. Or are you going to be " bugging" out to save your ass. I for one would not where that shit if I could avoid it. Good luck.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:31:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
its level 3A body armor no plates nato releasable vest type for 200$ it has palls webbing all over it



Fixed it for ya!

You can't get Level 3 Body Armor without plates.


If you are a civilian why the Armor?? When and where are you going to need armor? Unless you are a paranoid the sky is falling kinda guy who would carry it in his vehicle and everywhere he goes then by all means go for it.

If its going to collect dust in the garage then don't waste your money. If you already have a rifle then get an upper. Or a scope.

Get something you can use rather than something to look at.

just my .02 cents

- Go
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:33:11 PM EDT
i mean its a body armor/gear holder for 200dollars a releasable vest that holds ammo and such seems like a pretty good idea to me
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:34:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:48:40 PM EDT by Inspector1]
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Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:38:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
jeepmoto.tripod.com/sale/thumbnails/400x300/carrier.JPG



The picture doesn't work.


Either way my last post still stands.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:40:19 PM EDT
Id say another AR is in order, unless you can find some armor that will stop multiple 308 hits in the back.

Scott

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:42:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 8:42:36 PM EDT by Inspector1]
this vest will hold plates so it could stop 7.62 or 5.56
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:44:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goback:

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
its level 3A body armor no plates nato releasable vest type for 200$ it has palls webbing all over it



Fixed it for ya! hout

If you are a civilian why the Armor?? When and where are you going to need armor? Unless you are a paranoid the sky is falling kinda guy who would carry it in his vehicle and everywhere he goes then by all means go for it.

If its going to collect dust in the garage then don't waste your money. If you already have a rifle then get an upper. Or a scope.

Get something you can use rather than something to look at.

just my .02 cents

- Go



Because it is cool. You are a civilian, why do you need an AR either? just stick with grand-dads bolt-gun. Save yourself the money.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 8:48:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 9:29:30 PM EDT
im still in a delimma
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:04:51 PM EDT
buying the vest
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:15:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
buying the vest



Good. Better to have and not need than need and not have.


One of my vests, with associated goodies.



Even if I weren't the PO-lice, I'd still have armor.



Sheep
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:22:36 PM EDT
just need standalone plates to go in it now..
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:32:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 11:35:18 PM EDT by Charging_Handle]
If you have everything else, I'd go with the body armor.



Famastone construction NIJ Certified Level III "Stand-Alone" plates from Israel, available from armytacshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=37_39&products_id=52

These are made of a very lightweight, yet incredibly sturdy material.

Then get yourself one of these to carry them in:



Available from www.lightfighter.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=TAG-078!001&csurl=/istar.asp?a%3D3%26dept%3DGUNPAR

That one has the MOLLE webbing, so you can attach your mag pouches and gear to it.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:37:27 PM EDT
omg read the thread slacker.... the vest im buying is releasable sorta looks like that. soft armor and plate carrier. comes with soft armor and carrier for 200$ its black. i think its a point blank vest
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 11:39:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 11:39:42 PM EDT by Inspector1]
looks just like this but black

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 12:16:56 AM EDT
what do you guys think of this setup?
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 12:18:48 AM EDT
Looks like they want to kiss but that just might be talking.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 12:21:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Goback:
Looks like they want to kiss but that just might be talking.



Nah....just the traditional Marine Greeting.

"Wanna go kick some ass?"

"Fuggin A!"



Sheep

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 12:23:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 12:24:15 AM EDT by Goback]

Originally Posted By SheepDog_556:

Originally Posted By Goback:
Looks like they want to kiss but that just might be talking.



Nah....just the traditional Marine Greeting.

"Wanna go kiss some ass?"

"Fuggin A!"



Sheep





Fixed it for ya

I mean come on they're Marines after all

j/k
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:03:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
If you have everything else, I'd go with the body armor.

armytacshop.com/images/ad_1_b.jpg

Famastone construction NIJ Certified Level III "Stand-Alone" plates from Israel, available from armytacshop.com/product_info.php?cPath=37_39&products_id=52

These are made of a very lightweight, yet incredibly sturdy material.



Dang, those are a lot lighter than my Level 4 plates, which are 7 lbs EACH. But I paid $175 each plate, not $500+ for the lighter ones...

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:49:18 AM EDT
I'd say that the idea of adding some body armor makes some sense.
But I'm talking about concealable armor. The thought of walking around with the exterior wear tactical/ballistic plates, etc. strikes me as pretty absurd unless you're a SWAT officer. OTOH, having some light weight and concealable protection from handgun projectiles makes a bit of sense in a SHTF situation if you might need to ward off panicky folks away from your house.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:54:13 AM EDT
take a FIREARMS TRAINING COURSE
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:32:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 5:47:32 PM EDT by FloridaConfederate]
Although I am not a member of a milita group, I consider myself part of the well-regulated citizen milita of my State.

I have equipped myself appropriately and that means L4 Standalone plates in vest among other things.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:40:59 AM EDT
Body armor, buy what you don't have. You've got the gun and the bullets and most of the trouble isn't going to be a long-distance sniper duel.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:50:23 AM EDT
How about a helmet?
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:03:08 AM EDT
Skip the body armor. We are about to have revolutionary body armor available that will blow away the flimsy pistol proof stuff and make stiff non flexible rifle plates obsolete.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:04:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FloridaConfederate:
All though I am not a member of a milita group, I consider my self part of the well regulated citizen milita of my State.

I have equipped myself appropriately and that means L4 Standalone plates in vest among other things.



I originally got my armor for work (worked in a gunshop/range), and kept the armor for home use (you never know if you'll have a home invasion or such). Seeing scenes from the LA riots/Florida homeowners trying to keep looters at bay, etc, convinced me I'd made the right decision keeping the armor. Got some Level 4 plates for Y2k; what the hell, why not?

Wish I had a line on some lighter plates though. Tried on the vest with plates the other day, and you know, despite my losing 25 lbs, the dang thing seems way too heavy. Guess this 40-year old bod needs to work out more.

But I'd be glad I had the armor, should something bad ever happen. I see it as cheap insurance.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:05:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
what do you guys think of this setup?



You are getting FSBE armor set up? But black? The NATO QR? Thats expensive shit bro.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:06:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Inspector1:
omg read the thread slacker.... the vest im buying is releasable sorta looks like that. soft armor and plate carrier. comes with soft armor and carrier for 200$ its black. i think its a point blank vest



No way you are getting an FSBE for $200. NO WAY IN HELL! If you are IM me I want 10-15 of them.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:42:58 AM EDT
yeah i am... trunks had it for sale in the EE
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 1:04:34 PM EDT
guy at pointblank told me the vest was a fake so i will not be buying it
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