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Posted: 8/22/2005 4:51:32 AM EDT
[#1]
Uzi or shotgun.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:01:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Flamethrower of some sort would kick ass in that situation h.gif .
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:02:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Option A....no question
not sure what that shotgun will do for you after you expell the 9 shells in the chamber |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:04:04 AM EDT
[#4]
12g.
after you rip very large holes in the first few the rest will move to easier prey. that or a glock fo-te |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:04:24 AM EDT
[#5]
 - or - weed wacker  |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:04:34 AM EDT
[#6]
60 rounds of ammo out of an M4/11.5" M16 would most likely do a damn good job of telling people to FOAD.
 Kharn |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:04:38 AM EDT
[#7]
Street-Sweeper
 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:04:55 AM EDT
[#8]
Whatever has the most penetration with the least wounding. I want each bullet to pass through 2 or 3 bodies.
So, I'd say either the AR or AK with FMJ loads. I have a good feeling most of those guys would hit the dirt once they had a hole in them, regardless of the actual severity of the hole. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:07:17 AM EDT
[#9]
None of the above.
HK51 with the rare HK Drum magazine. Penetration, punch, capacity, compactness. That's what I would want. Cold chew my way out with that thing. 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:07:40 AM EDT
[#10]
AR15, but I would rather have a 16".
Plus there is a fear factor with most out there that may think you have a machine gun. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:08:15 AM EDT
[#11]
If one is actually SURROUNDED by an angry mob, I think you're going down no matter what weapon you have. This is the voice of experience.
Of course, possession of a weapon gives you the ability to take some of them with you which is, I guess, some small comfort.  I'd probably pick my SuperLight Bushmaster AR w/30 round mag. in that particular situation. If I weren't actually surrounded and could keep the mob in front of me, it would be a toss-up between the AR and my Mossberg 590. The more distance I had to work with, out to say, 50 yards, I'd lean more toward the shotgun on the theory that if I had to shoot into a fairly large area type target, more projectiles flying in the general direction of the threat with each trigger squeeze would probably discourage more people the fastest. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:09:20 AM EDT
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www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car (with link to video) Flamethrower now an option on S. African cars JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (CNN) -- Crime-obsessed South Africans have a powerful new weapon with which to stop likely criminals: the car flamethrower. Casting a man-high fireball, reportedly with no damage to the paint, the Blaster has been placed on 25 South African vehicles since its introduction last month. At 3,900 rand ($655), it offers a cheap, dramatic defense against carjackers. It has yet to be deemed illegal. South African courts allow killing if convinced that it's in self-defense. The defense is not unheard of. In last year's 13,000 carjackings, criminals often brandished weapons or used them with little provocation. The Blaster squirts liquefied gas from a bottle in the automobile's trunk through two nozzles, located under the front doors. The gas is then ignited by an electric spark, with fiery consequences. Both sides flame at the same time, regardless of whether the attack is coming from just one side of the vehicle, or whether passersby are on the other side. But the breadth and depth of blast can be modified according to individual preference. There was a thread posted here not to long ago about some lucky GI over in Iraq who bought Sadaam Husseins car in an auction and the car was equipped with side-mounted flamethrowers. ETA... I remember reading something years ago about another crowd control weapon that was also developed by the South Africans. It was a turret shaped affair that sat on top of an armored vehicle/troop carrier/etc. It was mounted with something like (30-40- a lot?) 12 gauge shotgun barrels facing 360 degrees and downwards. It was called the "Spider" or something similar to that. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:12:50 AM EDT
[#13]
most people react to "shock value" in their enviornment. A rifle while loud at close rage in the chest will make a relatively small external wound.
if you are overwhelmd likely the ak/ar would have more rounds but either way your still going to run out of ammo. the best you could hope for is shocking them back to reality. large gaping wounds spraying them with blood will snap the average sheep back into submission mode. fight or flight takes hold and hopefully they will run. at least that is my theory. either way your fooked in that situation. if they are that close 2-3 determined people will get to you and the gun before you can empty it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:37:31 AM EDT
[#14]
m-249 with a very large ammo belt
txl eta: nothing means business like a belt fed weapon (jarhead_22) |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:41:29 AM EDT
[#15]
Why can't some people comprehend how a poll works? The choices are limited to what the pollster lists. Jeez!
  "Fix Bayonets!" 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:43:07 AM EDT
[#16]
m-590 with the dragonbreath rounds
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:43:25 AM EDT
[#17]
AR-pistol
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:43:40 AM EDT
[#18]
The obvious answer to anybody who has played Doom: a chaingun (anybody have that animated .gif from Predator of the chaingun mowing down the jungle?)
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:45:33 AM EDT
[#19]
... Picked #1 however, a short-barreled, belt-fed 1919 on a tripod gimbal would seem to work rather well too
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:45:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:48:24 AM EDT
[#21]
8X10 Photo of Hillary Clinton
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:49:27 AM EDT
[#22]
need something like claymores, but forget the new tank antipersonnel round designed for "back scratching" - guess 120mm shotgun shell would work well.
If they are motivated, you are pretty much toast. Probably should search for zombie threads for ideas on this one. What about the light saber option - worked really well for the Jeti |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:50:28 AM EDT
[#23]
I'd take a Thompson with a 100 round drum.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:50:40 AM EDT
[#24]
1919A
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:52:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Picked pistol.
Paritcularly a .45acp w/ Hi Cap mags and RBCD ammo. You can fight w/ a handgun more effectively in immediate CQC than with a long gun. No sense in having a long gun doing short work. The RBCD rounds will provide plenty of visible catastrophic damage at 2000 fps (read: large gaping flesh wounds) and approaching rifle velocity. YMMV 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:53:06 AM EDT
[#26]
I don't see "rape whistle" anywhere on the list, so I'm going to vote for "cell phone".
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Posted: 8/22/2005 5:59:14 AM EDT
[#27]
I'd pick a 1928 Thompson SMG Full-Auto "Tommy Gun" with a drum mag.
45ACP is a good stopping round, and you can deal alot of them out real quick with a Tommy Gun. One 50-round or 100-round drum should be enough to handle about anything, without a reload. Hard to beat that for very close-quarters stopping power. You could actually even "mow down" a massed charge of attackers quickly and effectively. Also, it is real recognizable as a machine gun, even by people that know nothing about guns, so it has a strong deterrent factor against them even starting anything. But, any good SMG would be good in that sitation, and the Uzi 45ACP model would serve well too. That is what SMG's were made to do. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:01:05 AM EDT
[#28]
The first two options of the poll.
A Saiga 12K with short barrel, and a ton of mags. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:01:09 AM EDT
[#29]
Best solution is to not get into that situation.
If you ARE in that situation, the odds are against you regardless of what weapon you have, because you are exposed on top of a car and they'll most likely come at you from whatever direction you are not looking, especially after you deplete your ammo. You also expose yourself to return fire in that location. Use your initial rounds to clear a path to a defensible position before you need to reload. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:02:43 AM EDT
[#30]
Yeah, if the mob attacking you are warm pot roasts. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:16:32 AM EDT
[#31]
A Full auto AK carbine with a 75 round drum, and plenty more for reloads. Hey, wait a minute, you guys who talk about zombie guns could take some advide, this is almost what would happen if you got surrounded by a bloodthirsty hoard. (read zombies)
The perfect man portable option would be a belt-fed full auto shotgun!!!!!! "Lets Rockkkk!" 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:23:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Almost any firearm will do; the reality is that the mob would take off after the first three or four went down. Are you going to stick around after you hear "pop-pop-pop", some screaming, and some guys hit the pavement? A high cap handgun would do nicely, and would be easily deployed from concealment.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:24:57 AM EDT
[#33]
HK51B. .308 belt fed rifle with an 8 inch barrel. Huge muzzle flash with a belt as long as you can carry.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:30:55 AM EDT
[#34]
Yep definitely the way to go. 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:41:00 AM EDT
[#35]
Ladies and Gent's We have an expert on Warm Pot Roasts I repeat. We have an expert on Warm Pot Roasts that is all.  hey, you don't happen to live in a Northern state and profile Mexicans do you?
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:46:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Ma Duece or Mini-Gun for the crowd in THAT video!
Air Strike with Napalm would work good too
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:48:23 AM EDT
[#37]
Hand grenade!
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:48:36 AM EDT
[#38]
+1. over penetration is a desireable trait in that sit. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:51:17 AM EDT
[#39]
If mob rushes you they will get you no matter how many you shoot. At that point you will need to prevent your gun from being used on yourself or being shoved up your ass. This is much easier to do with a pistol than a long gun, you WILL lose a long gun. You will probably be able to save a pistol if you don't get knocked out.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:55:01 AM EDT
[#40]
an mp5k pdw with a beta c mag full of hydra shocks
 does beta even make a c-mag for the mp5? |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:55:13 AM EDT
[#41]
Plasma rifle 40 watts, with the wide angle action.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 6:56:43 AM EDT
[#42]
ICBM called in broken arrow style. It's the only way to be sure.
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:00:05 AM EDT
[#43]
they don't call it a street sweeper for nothing
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:19:06 AM EDT
[#44]
FN P90. I love the belt fed M249 fantasy! Good luck manuevering that INSIDE a car. Cant really be done easily plus half the other items mentioned here are long and unwieldy, making them easy to snatch away.
The VERY short FN P90 is perfect. You can shoot it from under your arm, it has a 50-round magazine, little recoil for follow-up shorts and its very hard to snatch away. I cant think of a better firearm. I'll take a P90 over an 8-shot shot-gun anyday for this specific situation. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:20:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Winchester 1300 Defender pump action loaded with 12 rounds of the Aquila shorty shotgun ammo, alternating between their buckshot and birdshot loads for six of each.
I'm with the others who say your only chance is shock value at this point, and I'm wanting to get as many shots off as possible. I've used the Aquila rounds and they pack a surprising amount of punch for their size (i compare to a slightly underloaded 20 guage round). Only in a short 18 in gun you still get 12 shots. Not a bad compromise. I'd also have my sidearm, of course. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:24:37 AM EDT
[#46]
Whatever weapon you're most comfortable and proficient with. For me, any AR-type carbine will do nicely.
I maintain that people will start running as soon as bodies start hitting the pavement. In my case, they might (unlikely) get my rifle, but it's gonna be empty. They'll have to resort to clubbing me with it. 
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:25:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Stand on the accellerator and run them down. You have a 4000 lb weapon at your disposal.
ETA: Oops, you are boxed in. Your lack of situational awareness has most likely gotten you killed - an angry mob aint that hard to see from a distance. I would pick a para FAL. Close range head shots with a .308 are messy, and being covered in someone else's brains may discourage the others. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:29:31 AM EDT
[#48]
If I was in a car with an approaching mob moving in, I'd rather have a few CS grenades. I'd toss those out the windows to disperse the mob, then I'd gun it, running over anyone who got in my way.
Nah wait, screw that. Give me a fire truck with a 1250 gallon tank and a deluge gun mounted on top. Nothing like knocking people around like bowling pins with a wall of water. Muhahahahahahahahahaha. |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:30:21 AM EDT
[#49]
That may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on ARFCOM. Let's assume that your initial statement is true (I don't doubt that it is). If you know from EXPERIENCE, and you're here TYPING ABOUT IT, doesn't that disprove your statement? I'll give that a minute to sink in... Maybe in your experience you were part of the mob. Now on to the next statement(s):
Read the Ammo Oracle or THIS. Look for words like FRAGMENTATION (Re: AR FMJ loads) |
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Posted: 8/22/2005 7:33:17 AM EDT
[#50]
I want one!M134 would be good tho
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