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Posted: 10/18/2008 9:41:10 AM EST
www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

A plumbing license is not the only license "Joe the Plumber" is having troubles with. The former Mesa resident has a suspended driver's license and outstanding court fines in Arizona, according to Mesa Municipal Court records.

"Joe," whose real name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was referred to more than 20 times by Republican Sen. John McCain in Wednesday night's presidential debate for questioning Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's tax policy.

The man portrayed by McCain to be the typical, hardworking American revealed this week that he actually does not have a plumbing license, and now court records show he should not have a driver's license either, making it potentially even harder for him to get to work.

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

America's new political icon, who owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher's driver's license is still valid in Ohio, according to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and was renewed as recently as May 2005. Ohio law requires a license to be renewed every four years, meaning Wurzelbacher likely obtained an Ohio license in 2001, one year after having his Arizona license suspended.

With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.

The only way "Joe the Plumber" could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.

Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:43:49 AM EST
I don't know why they haven't burned him at the stake yet... what are they waiting for?
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:45:03 AM EST
I hope the MSM and Dems keep digging up dirt on Joe, it's turning away independents and hardening the resolve of the average person.
I love it.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:45:25 AM EST
$627.50 for Failure to stop at a red light and not carrying an insurance card?!?!?!!? I'd have a suspended license also.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:45:34 AM EST
Wow they are digging up everything they can on poor ol' joe
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:46:38 AM EST
And there are those who believe that under an Obama administration dissent will still be alive and well the next four years. For their sake I hope so, but there are too many hints reported with respect to the Almighty and Infallible ONE to the contrary. It will not be tolerated by him.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:47:59 AM EST
Maybe they should send him to Gitmo Bay...
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:48:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By NMGlocker:
I hope the MSM and Dems keep digging up dirt on Joe, it's turning away independents and hardening the resolve of the average person.
I love it.


Oh, yeah. That's the party of the little guy, fighting for what's right. Disgusting.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:48:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By B486:
$627.50 for Failure to stop at a red light and not carrying an insurance card?!?!?!!? I'd have a suspended license also.


Yeah, that's a pretty insane fine to say nothing of what he might have to pay the DMV to reinstate his license.

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:49:12 AM EST
Wow! All these problems with an overreaching intrusive government, and the MSM thinks the answer is more overreaching intrusive government.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:51:29 AM EST
I know ill get flamed on this but he didnt pay his fine he should have his shit revoked.. Sorry but you broke the law and found guilty and that was the penalty... Ive had mine revoked for the same type of shit.. Pay your fine and move on... If he didnt want to be in the spot light then he should not have given so many interviews.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:52:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 9:53:27 AM EST by paris-dakar]

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
I don't know why they haven't burned him at the stake yet... what are they waiting for?


Some time in Year 2 (formerly known as 2011AD), Joe the Plumber will die in a US Government operated Uranium Mine.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:53:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By DeezNyuts:
Wow! All these problems with an overreaching intrusive government, and the MSM thinks the answer is more overreaching intrusive government.


And a vindictive government to boot.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:53:26 AM EST
Pretty lame that these people are expending all these resources to nail a little guy to the wall.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:55:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 9:55:51 AM EST by EndofGoogle]

Originally Posted By delemorte:
I know ill get flamed on this but he didnt pay his fine he should have his shit revoked.. Sorry but you broke the law and found guilty and that was the penalty... Ive had mine revoked for the same type of shit.. Pay your fine and move on... If he didnt want to be in the spot light then he should not have given so many interviews.


1+, people are only bitching about this because its shooting down a "hero" in their eyes. If this was a guy who who asked McCain a tough question during a photo-op and became a hero of democrats people here would be cheering whats going on now.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:55:52 AM EST
do the criminal back ground of all the Obamaites? oh wait hard to owe taxes when you DONT pay any but suck them up all month long!
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:56:09 AM EST
How many people will think twice now before questioning the chosen one? That's the really sad part of this. Intimidation by the MSM.

Fuck obama and his MSM gestapo.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:58:12 AM EST
Meanwhile, Bill Ayers planted bombs and hates America, but apparently he's not worth investigating because he doesn't ask substantive questions that reveal Obama's true political views.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:58:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Pretty lame that these people are expending all these resources to nail a little guy to the wall.



Yep.

Has the MSM looked into Bill Ayres with the same amount of energy that they have expended on Joe?
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:59:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Pretty lame that these people are expending all these resources to nail a little guy to the wall.



Yep.

Has the MSM looked into Bill Ayres with the same amount of energy that they have expended on Joe?


who??

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 9:59:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Pretty lame that these people are expending all these resources to nail a little guy to the wall.


Who are the 'these people' you refer to? What resources are being expended?
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:00:03 AM EST
[thousands of people shouting] Crucify him! [/thousands of people]
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:00:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By delemorte:
I know ill get flamed on this but he didnt pay his fine he should have his shit revoked.. Sorry but you broke the law and found guilty and that was the penalty... Ive had mine revoked for the same type of shit.. Pay your fine and move on... If he didnt want to be in the spot light then he should not have given so many interviews.


Well of course, but why is this a matter of public interest to be reported in the media?

Because he asked a question that Obama answered in a way that hurts him in the eyes of normal Americans. So, therefore, Joe the plumber's life has to be scrutinized and put in the news?

If you aren't deeply disturbed by this you should be.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:01:35 AM EST
"I want to spread the wealth around" is the only thing I remember. WHO FUCKING CARES who asked the question? It doesn't matter one iota.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:01:36 AM EST
Jesus, does he owe child support too?

Christ, they're crucifying this guy.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:03:19 AM EST
All they're doing by persecuting "Joe" is cutting their own throats. If Obama was smart, he'd come out and denounce the MSM for what they're doing. But, not only isn't he that smart, but persecuting people like Joe is what he's all about. He may get elected and it may take the country a few years to get a belly full of this shit, but once they do the S will really HTF.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:05:02 AM EST
this is bull crap
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:06:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By jimb100:

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Pretty lame that these people are expending all these resources to nail a little guy to the wall.


Who are the 'these people' you refer to? What resources are being expended?


MSM, Obama, et al and the time and money put into digging up all this info on the guy.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:06:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:
Jesus, does he owe child support too?

Christ, they're crucifying this guy.


I've heard, but don't quote me, that he once kicked a puppy.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:07:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:

Originally Posted By Subnet:
Jesus, does he owe child support too?

Christ, they're crucifying this guy.


I've heard, but don't quote me, that he once kicked a puppy.


He was mean to his sister in 1st grade.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:07:32 AM EST
I find it bullshit that having a license suspended in one state means you cannot get one in another. My GF had hers "suspended" in VT over a clerical error. At the time she moved to FL, she had a CA license for 5 years. When she applied for her FL license, they denied her and then tried to take her CA DL from her.

We chased the paperwork down and VT had "forgotten" her speeding case had been dismissed when she was 16.

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:09:01 AM EST
This guy isnt the most "upstanding" citizen I guess but fuck...

If they put even half the effort into this guy as Obama's friends tons of dirt would be on the news 24/7.

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:10:16 AM EST
You have got to be shittin me. I know Clinton did things to his enemies but Obama makes Clinton look like a boyscout in comparison. Lets hope he does not have the IRS, BATFE, and DHS resources at his disposal, because there is no telling how he will abuse his power then, if he is doing this sort of thing during his campaign.

TAKE NOTE OF THIS, YOU BOB BARR/DAFFY DUCK/THIRD PARTY VOTERS.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:10:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
I don't know why they haven't burned him at the stake yet... what are they waiting for?


Probably waiting for him to be tarred and feathered first. The poor Man. What a nice message Obama is teaching us - if you disagree with him -- keep quiet unless you have a stellar background.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:11:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By QueenDeNile:

Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
I don't know why they haven't burned him at the stake yet... what are they waiting for?


Probably waiting for him to be tarred and feathered first. The poor Man. What a nice message Obama is teaching us - if you disagree with him -- keep quiet unless you have a stellar background.


No one has a stellar back ground. There are probably 3500+ laws you have no idea about you are in violation of. Ayn Rand was right.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:14:09 AM EST
It's not Joe's fault for not having a plumber's license, not paying his taxes, running a red light and not having car insurance, not paying the ticket and getting his license suspended? It's Obama's fault?

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:14:19 AM EST
I am more upset by the amount of the traffic tickets then anything else...well that and the media coverage.....he needs to pay his fines....but damn $700.00 for a victimless crime
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:14:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 10:23:51 AM EST by Mak]
Go after the little guy that asked The One a question that he gave the wrong answer to, but The One won't tell the truth about why he sat in a church for 20 years with a racist pastor or why he hangs out with a domestic terrorist or has financial dealings with a convicted felon.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:15:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
It's not Joe's fault for not having a plumber's license, not paying his taxes, running a red light and not having car insurance, not paying the ticket and getting his license suspended? It's Obama's fault?



no the anger is from the "Media" coverage....
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:15:45 AM EST
some people here are scary..

he asked a question, the answer obamanation gave is the problem.

talk about shoot the messinger.

scary buisness....
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:17:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By BURN:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
It's not Joe's fault for not having a plumber's license, not paying his taxes, running a red light and not having car insurance, not paying the ticket and getting his license suspended? It's Obama's fault?



no the anger is from the "Media" coverage....


If this was some Lootie who questioned McCain and Obama mentioned him 20 times in the debate and this same crap came up, he'd be getting CRUCIFIED here.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:17:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
All they're doing by persecuting "Joe" is cutting their own throats. If Obama was smart, he'd come out and denounce the MSM for what they're doing. But, not only isn't he that smart, but persecuting people like Joe is what he's all about. He may get elected and it may take the country a few years to get a belly full of this shit, but once they do the S will really HTF.


That's the way they roll in Cook County, Baby!
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:18:53 AM EST
Hate to rain on an Obama hating thread, but the OP clearly didnt read the article, hence the completely inaccurate thread title.

His license was suspended in march of 2000. Obama and his worshipers had nothing to do with it. It's all JTP's fault for not paying his fine.

Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:20:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Meanwhile, Bill Ayers planted bombs and hates America, but apparently he's not worth investigating because he doesn't ask substantive questions that reveal Obama's true political views.

Plus fucking one.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:22:08 AM EST
Man asks a question... Obama gives a socialist answer... and the guy gets hung by his toes.


Democratic party.... all about power and control. They will squash ANYONE who gets in their way.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:22:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By BURN:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
It's not Joe's fault for not having a plumber's license, not paying his taxes, running a red light and not having car insurance, not paying the ticket and getting his license suspended? It's Obama's fault?



no the anger is from the "Media" coverage....


If this was some Lootie who questioned McCain and Obama mentioned him 20 times in the debate and this same crap came up, he'd be getting CRUCIFIED here.




For his position. I doubt people on here would be digging up stuff left and right and putting out ads on TV claiming what a shit bag he is.


We already got to the problem yesterday with his plumbers license. He doesnt have to have one as long as he works for someone who does. I actually looked up the laws on it. You have to have 5 years minimum experience before you can even take the license test. Not having a license doesnt mean anything as long as he is working for someone who does.


Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:23:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Meanwhile, Bill Ayers planted bombs and hates America, but apparently he's not worth investigating because he doesn't ask substantive questions that reveal Obama's true political views.


this
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:25:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Frost7:

Originally Posted By raven:
Meanwhile, Bill Ayers planted bombs and hates America, but apparently he's not worth investigating because he doesn't ask substantive questions that reveal Obama's true political views.

Plus fucking one.



Can we say bend way over USA.
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:25:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2008 10:25:38 AM EST by Billmanweh]

Originally Posted By Belmont31R:

For his position. I doubt people on here would be digging up stuff left and right and putting out ads on TV claiming what a shit bag he is.


Like when Tina Fey said she didn't want to play Sarah Palin for four years and there was a thread here making fun of a scar on her face she got as a kid, calling her Scarface?
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:26:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Belmont31R:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By BURN:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
It's not Joe's fault for not having a plumber's license, not paying his taxes, running a red light and not having car insurance, not paying the ticket and getting his license suspended? It's Obama's fault?



no the anger is from the "Media" coverage....


If this was some Lootie who questioned McCain and Obama mentioned him 20 times in the debate and this same crap came up, he'd be getting CRUCIFIED here.




For his position. I doubt people on here would be digging up stuff left and right and putting out ads on TV claiming what a shit bag he is.



We already got to the problem yesterday with his plumbers license. He doesnt have to have one as long as he works for someone who does. I actually looked up the laws on it. You have to have 5 years minimum experience before you can even take the license test. Not having a license doesnt mean anything as long as he is working for someone who does.




And I wouldn't really care if he got a ticket once or twice, got a time-out when he was six, or if he almost thought something mean once. I mean, it's incredible what they will drag up and present as a crisis to help Osamabama. Look at what happened when Palin was chosen as McCain's running mate. Her husband had a DUI 30+ years ago
Link Posted: 10/18/2008 10:26:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
You have got to be shittin me. I know Clinton did things to his enemies but Obama makes Clinton look like a boyscout in comparison. Lets hope he does not have the IRS, BATFE, and DHS resources at his disposal, because there is no telling how he will abuse his power then, if he is doing this sort of thing during his campaign.

TAKE NOTE OF THIS, YOU BOB BARR/DAFFY DUCK/THIRD PARTY VOTERS.


+10,000 Vote 3Rd party, so we all can have this kind of shit pulled on the little people, that we are, in "THE ONE'S" eyes.
FUCK OBAMA
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