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Posted: 6/21/2003 3:43:29 PM EDT
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18997-2003Jun21.html washingtonpost.com 'Apocalypse Now' Music Fires Up U.S. Troops for Raid Reuters Saturday, June 21, 2003; 1:56 PM By Alistair Lyon BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. troops psyched up on a bizarre musical reprise from Vietnam war film "Apocalypse Now" before crashing into Iraqi homes to hunt gunmen on Saturday, as Shi'ite Muslims rallied against the U.S. occupation of Iraq. With the strains of Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" still ringing in their ears and the clatter of helicopters overhead, soldiers rammed vehicles into metal gates and hundreds of troops raided houses in the western city of Ramadi after sunrise as part of a drive to quell a spate of attacks on U.S. forces. A previously unknown group, calling itself the Iraqi National Front of Fedayeen, vowed to intensify assaults on American troops until they leave Iraq. A man with his face swathed in a red-and-white headscarf read the threat on a videotape received by Lebanon's LBC television. There was no way to verify its authenticity. "If they want their soldiers to be safe, they must leave our pure land," the man said, disavowing any link to Saddam Hussein. He was flanked by three masked men with weapons. Iraqi assailants have killed 17 U.S. soldiers since major combat was declared over on May 1, three weeks after the fall of Baghdad ended 24 years of Saddam Hussein's iron rule. U.S. officials blame the attacks on diehard Saddam loyalists. Many Iraqis say the resistance is fueled by resentment at the occupation and the behavior of U.S. troops. "The Americans are occupiers and aggressors," said Sayyid Ali, one of about 2,000 Shi'ites who protested outside the vast palace compound in Baghdad now used by Iraq's U.S. rulers. "They were supposed to free us from the oppressor, now they are only occupying us," he said. "We want to form a national government. "We want freedom and justice." There was no repeat of the violence that erupted on the same spot on Wednesday, when U.S. troops killed two Iraqis during a protest by stone-throwing former soldiers thrown out of work by a U.S. decree dissolving the Iraqi military. SOUR PERCEPTIONS "Under Saddam, we had no medicine. It was all in this palace," said Mohammed Obeid, sheltering from the fierce sun. "Now it's the same, except the Americans are in the palace." The United States and Britain say their forces will stay put until they can restore security, revive the economy and arrange a transition to an elected, sovereign Iraqi government. However, they have failed to find Saddam or his alleged arsenal of weapons of mass destruction which they cited as their main justification for going to war on March 20. President Bush, floating a new explanation for the failure to find banned weapons, said suspected arms sites had been looted as Saddam's government crumbled. "For more than a decade, Saddam Hussein went to great lengths to hide his weapons from the world. And in the regime's final days, documents and suspected weapons sites were looted and burned," Bush said in his weekly radio address. A U.S. treasury official attending a meeting organized by the World Economic Forum in Jordan for political and business leaders, said world donors must provide aid as well as debt relief to Iraq for postwar reconstruction. SEARCH FOR SADDAM The most important Iraqi captured by U.S. troops yet has told his interrogators that the deposed leader and his two sons survived the war, the New York Times reported. The paper quoted unnamed defense department officials as saying the information came from Abid Hamid Mahmud al-Tikriti, captured earlier this week, fourth on a U.S. list of most wanted Iraqis after Saddam and his sons Uday and Qusay. They said Mahmud's tips had ignited an intense burst of clandestine U.S. military activity aimed at capturing the trio. There was nothing secretive about Saturday's robust sweep through Ramadi, 100 km (60 miles) west of Baghdad, by soldiers of the First Battalion of the 124th Infantry Regiment who psyched themselves up at a base on a musical moment redolent of Francis Ford Coppola's 1979 film about the Vietnam war. Hit-and-run strikes on U.S. troops have been concentrated in Sunni Muslim towns such as Ramadi west and north of Baghdad. One unit of troops dragged half a dozen men from their homes as women wailed. They seized weapons and a computer disk. Officers said they aimed to capture five men from the Fedayeen paramilitary force, which put up some of the fiercest resistance to U.S. troops during their invasion. The raid was part of Operation Desert Scorpion, launched on June 15 to crack down on militants and befriend civilians by helping with aid and reconstruction projects. A U.S. military spokesman said on Saturday that 90 Desert Scorpion raids had captured 540 people.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 3:57:16 PM EDT
I hated that movie.......
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:02:40 PM EDT
I love the smell of napalm in the morning....
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:11:02 PM EDT
"... napalm in the morning..." one of my favorite move quotes, right up there with "Badges, we don need no ----ing badges!" Anyway, I hate that they had to use Nazi music. If they really wanted to be psych'd, they could have listened to "We're Not Going To Take It" by Twisted Sister.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:13:31 PM EDT
ungrateful bastards, screw em
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:29:35 PM EDT
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Martin Sheen was in that movie. May he #### in hell.[devil] We should herd them all into syria and put up a Texaco sign over Bagdad.[marines] And the American Flag.[headbang] For that I would make Bush King of Iraq after his second stint as President.[soapbox] [booze] it is about that time.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 4:50:54 PM EDT
The introduction to Carmina Burana is better for making war.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:36:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By A_Free_Man: "... napalm in the morning..." one of my favorite move quotes, right up there with "Badges, we don need no ----ing badges!" Anyway, I hate that they had to use Nazi music. If they really wanted to be psych'd, they could have listened to "We're Not Going To Take It" by Twisted Sister.
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Umm sorry- but Wagner is not 'nazi' music. I should expect as much from someone that suggested twisted sister. Wagner composed in the mid [b]1800's[/b]. btw it's 'we don't hafta show you no stinkin' badges'
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 5:52:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: The introduction to Carmina Burana is better for making war.
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"Oh Fortuna" I would have to agree, that's a pretty kick-ass song to have playing when you swoop in for the attack in the choppers.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 6:30:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Only_Hits_Count: Umm sorry- but Wagner is not 'nazi' music. I should expect as much from someone that suggested twisted sister. Wagner composed in the mid [b]1800's[/b].
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Yes, but it is well known that Wagner was [url=http://music.research.home.att.net/WagHit.htm]anti-semetic[/url], and a lot of german music (including Beethoven) was appropriated by the Nazi's for propoganda and intimidation purposes. Perhaps Proto-Nazi would be a more acceptable term for you?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:08:19 PM EDT
I'm anti-asshole. So sue me.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:31:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Nexus6:
Originally Posted By Only_Hits_Count: Umm sorry- but Wagner is not 'nazi' music. I should expect as much from someone that suggested twisted sister. Wagner composed in the mid [b]1800's[/b].
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Yes, but it is well known that Wagner was [url=http://music.research.home.att.net/WagHit.htm]anti-semetic[/url], and a lot of german music (including Beethoven) was appropriated by the Nazi's for propoganda and intimidation purposes. Perhaps Proto-Nazi would be a more acceptable term for you?
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No, 'proto' wouldn't be an apt desciption either. Are you saying Wagner was the first in history to comment on Jews? I believe you could find quotes from several quotes from founding father showing an anti Jewish slant. How could you refer to it as 'nazi' when it predated that movement by 70 years??
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:33:25 PM EDT
He who pulls the "Nazi" card first loses.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 8:33:38 PM EDT
It is kind of strange that Carl Orff was forgiven for Carmina Burana, which BTW, was written in 1937 expressly for the Nazi regime, while Wagner, who died 40 years before anyone even heard of Hitler, is still vilified today because the Nazis adopted his music. Wagner probably was Anti-Semitic, and that would be totally consistent with his personality, as he was know far and wide to be a real asshole.
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:06:37 PM EDT
Hah! 10 minutes of Twisted Sister, or 5 minutes of anything rap, and you'd want to kill something!
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 9:09:25 PM EDT
Didn't Dee Snyder look like that fat wench in the Drew Carrey Show?
Link Posted: 6/21/2003 11:31:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: He who pulls the "Nazi" card first loses.
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agreed
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 12:30:55 AM EDT
We were on our way to a CIF Southern Section (all of So.CAl except LA City schools) FootBall Championship back when their were 4 size divisions only. We were outside the locker room of the league doormat team watching the B Game and could hear their coach trying to fire them up and then he played "To dream the Impossible Dream" from Man of La Mancha. Mighta worked, our guys were still laughing and joking about it during the game. We kicked their butts anyway.
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 1:27:56 AM EDT
Wagner, the guy who invented the powerpainter, cool. TS [}:D]
Link Posted: 6/22/2003 5:05:09 AM EDT
O Fortune, like the moon you are changeable, ever waxing and waning; hateful life first oppresses and then soothes as fancy takes it; poverty and power it melts them like ice. Fate - monstrous and empty, you whirling wheel, you are malevolent, well-being is vain and always fades to nothing, shadowed and veiled you plague me too; now through the game I bring my bare back to your villainy. Fate is against me in health and virtue, driven on and weighted down, always enslaved. So at this hour without delay pluck the vibrating strings; since Fate strikes down the string man, everyone weep with me!
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