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Posted: 12/13/2013 1:29:28 PM EST
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The Obama administration has decided to preserve a controversial arrangement under which a single military official is permitted to direct both the National Security Agency and the military’s cyberwarfare command, U.S. officials said.

The decision by President Obama comes amid signs that the White House is not inclined to impose significant new restraints on the NSA’s activities and favors maintaining an agency program that collects data on virtually every phone call that Americans make, although it is likely to impose additional privacy-protection measures.
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What is the 21st century version of the pitchfork ?
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
What is the 21st century version of the pitchfork ?
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An EBR?
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"although it is likely to impose additional privacy-protection measures."

Pfft unlikely.
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The White House is not inclined to obey the constitution or honor their duty to respect the rights of individuals....
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
The White House is not inclined to obey the constitution or honor their duty to respect the rights of individuals....
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I am not inclined to give a shit what government thinks, any more.
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Gunny on:

Well, no shit.

/Gunny
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Originally Posted By Moochin:


An EBR?
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
What is the 21st century version of the pitchfork ?


An EBR?

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Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.
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The White House has abundantly demonstrated in word and deed where they stand on the Constitution and citizens rights. Often the contradiction between word and deed has spoken loudest. No surprise here.
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It would be extremely inconvenient, but the entire spying thing is dependent upon communications and can be easily crippled by simply NOT using common forms of communication for anything other than work related purposes. (Cell phones, land lines, radio, mail, etc.)

I would much rather they didn't spy on Americans. But they are going to spy on us. So it boils down to just deciding that it's worth the inconvenience not to give them anything to read, track or listen to.


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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.
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You know full well that it isn't "almost" like that.
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.
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You don't say!
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What was that noise about "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed?"
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Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
It would be extremely inconvenient, but the entire spying thing is dependent upon communications and can be easily crippled by simply NOT using common forms of communication for anything other than work related purposes. (Cell phones, land lines, radio, mail, etc.)

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I would much rather they didn't spy on Americans. But they are going to spy on us. So it boils down to just deciding that it's worth the inconvenience not to give them anything to read, track or listen to.



I prefer sophomore code personally
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Originally Posted By JSteensen:
I would much rather they didn't spy on Americans. But they are going to spy on us. So it boils down to just deciding that it's worth the inconvenience not to give them anything to read, track or listen to.





I prefer sophomore code personally
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Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
It would be extremely inconvenient, but the entire spying thing is dependent upon communications and can be easily crippled by simply NOT using common forms of communication for anything other than work related purposes. (Cell phones, land lines, radio, mail, etc.)
I would much rather they didn't spy on Americans. But they are going to spy on us. So it boils down to just deciding that it's worth the inconvenience not to give them anything to read, track or listen to.





I prefer sophomore code personally


Do these sophomores use semaphore to communicate?
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Do these sophomores use semaphore to communicate?
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Originally Posted By PeteCO:
Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
It would be extremely inconvenient, but the entire spying thing is dependent upon communications and can be easily crippled by simply NOT using common forms of communication for anything other than work related purposes. (Cell phones, land lines, radio, mail, etc.)
I would much rather they didn't spy on Americans. But they are going to spy on us. So it boils down to just deciding that it's worth the inconvenience not to give them anything to read, track or listen to.

I prefer sophomore code personally


Do these sophomores use semaphore to communicate?

Haha. Autocorrect is a bitch.
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:



You know full well that it isn't "almost" like that.
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.



You know full well that it isn't "almost" like that.


Yeah
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.
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Because:
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The GOP and the Democrats are two wings on the same vulture.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 2:35:41 PM EST
Nixon was booted out of office for a lot less than what Obama has done so far.

F&F-Americans and Mexicans died
failing to follow the Constitution yet again
IRS investigations into opponents

and much more
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Originally Posted By Kubota3430:
Nixon was booted out of office for a lot less than what Obama has done so far.

F&F-Americans and Mexicans died
failing to follow the Constitution yet again
IRS investigations into opponents

and much more
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Nixon had a hostile media to drive public opinion against him. Obama has the media in his pocket.
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:


Yeah
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
Why is the GOP not using this to steamroll the progressives?

We should be taking news like this and the recent Colorado raids and rubbing it in their faces.


It's almost like the GOP supports the NSA's activities and the raids.



You know full well that it isn't "almost" like that.


Yeah


You're slowly starting to understand how this game is played. The R's pass the Patriot Act to the self-righteous indignation of the D's. Then the D's pass Obamacare to the self-righteous indignation of the R's. Each party secretly relishing the increased power of the federal government for when their particular party is in power.
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