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Posted: 4/24/2013 9:55:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:56:24 AM EDT
Did you explain that his contributions are for the glory of the people's revolution and the much needed support of his proletariat comrades?





Speed
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:56:45 AM EDT
Tell him Shalanda thanks him.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:56:58 AM EDT
My wife had had jobs at school that were exempt from federal taxes, and when she got her first real paycheck she was PISSED about how much was taken.

Its a tough pill to swallow.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:57:32 AM EDT
Good lesson to learn early in life IMO.  Gets rid of silly socialist tendencies in a hurry.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:58:02 AM EDT
Try working into May to pay your taxes, and get back to me
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:58:14 AM EDT
Yeah, people need their Obama Phones and free healthcare.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:58:52 AM EDT
Tell him work is for sukkas dropp him off at the welfarr place
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:58:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:58:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:01:09 AM EDT by California_Kid]
I remember that moment in my life very clearly.  It was almost 40 years ago.  



My first formal job was boxing groceries at a small store.  But it was in a neighborhood where there was no FSA.  No food stamps, ever.



My pay was $2.25/hour IIRC, plus an occasional tip.  One time some people gave me $5 for putting several bags in the trunk of their Rolls-Royce.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:59:06 AM EDT
I remember those days.  4.25 an hour.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 9:59:39 AM EDT
Now tell him that his marginal tax rate increases the harder he works.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:00:04 AM EDT



Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:



Originally Posted By speedracer422:

Did you explain that his contributions are for the glory of the people's revolution and the much needed support of his proletariat comrades?





Speed




I told him that each time he's bagging up some FSA ribeye steaks, they use food stamps that he paid for them.


Same difference; my way just sounds more eloquent and Dr. Zhivagoy.





Speed



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:00:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Now tell him that his marginal tax rate increases the harder he works.


"Yes son, work hard and be successful and one day maybe the first 5 months of the year you work will go to pay your taxes"
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:01:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:09:17 AM EDT by varack]
This just got me thinking... i just calculated it, and I work 11 hours a week to pay my damn taxes for a 40 hr work week....

Technically I am getting taxed 27.5%  

Lee-a (Leedasha) is living pretty fricking nice

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:03:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By varack:
This just got me thinking... i just calculated it, and I work 11 hours a week to pay my damn taxes for a 40 hr work day....

Technically I am getting taxed 27.5%  



Is that just Fed income tax?

Did you include state income tax, wheel tax, property tax, gas tax, sales tax, etc...

I'm pretty sure i'd suck start a .38 if I added all of that up and saw how much I actually paid each year.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:04:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:06:05 AM EDT by spin-drift]
I remember talking w/ my Dad when I got my first taxed job.  He showed me his paycheck and all I remember was he had more taken out for taxes than I made before taxes.

ETA: I feel the same as your kid and I've been a taxed employee for many years.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:04:27 AM EDT
Serious related question:


Would you turn him in if you found out he was hiding income from the Feds?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:05:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:08:26 AM EDT by varack]
Originally Posted By bg10:
Originally Posted By varack:
This just got me thinking... i just calculated it, and I work 11 hours a week to pay my damn taxes for a 40 hr work day....

Technically I am getting taxed 27.5%  



Is that just Fed income tax?

Did you include state income tax, wheel tax, property tax, gas tax, sales tax, etc...

I'm pretty sure i'd suck start a .38 if I added all of that up and saw how much I actually paid each year.


That is just State (NY fucks me), Federal, Medicare, OASDI...

Tolls: $85.50 a week
Gas: $80 a Week (estimate) so with that all added in .... 20 hours to pay taxes and expensise.... so 50% pay
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:06:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:06:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By varack:
This just got me thinking... i just calculated it, and I work 11 hours a week to pay my damn taxes for a 40 hr work day....

Technically I am getting taxed 27.5%  

Lee-a (Leedasha) is living pretty fricking nice



40 hour work day?  what planet?
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:08:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Serious related question:


Would you turn him in if you found out he was hiding income from the Feds?


I wouldn't turn you in.


Thanks, pop.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:08:31 AM EDT
This is why I just drink coffee and bullshit for the first 2 hours
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:08:43 AM EDT
Yes it sucks.

Fuck all the La-as, orangejellos, billy-joe-bobs, and every other fsa type.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:08:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rocksarge:
Originally Posted By varack:
This just got me thinking... i just calculated it, and I work 11 hours a week to pay my damn taxes for a 40 hr work week....

Technically I am getting taxed 27.5%  

Lee-a (Leedasha) is living pretty fricking nice



40 hour work week?  what planet?


lol work week sorry corrected
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:09:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:09:57 AM EDT by 1shott]
tell him to stop bitching and get back to work millions on welfare are depending on him...

Then show him this video...

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:10:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
Tell him Shalanda thanks DEMANDS more from him.


FIFY
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:10:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
...this is his first punch the clock job. He figured it out that each day he works he has to work 1.5 hours to pay his taxes.

He was so pissed.

Welcome to the real world.


And so was born another conservative...

FUCK THE FSA!
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:18:23 AM EDT
Yep, welcome aboard kid.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:21:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
...this is his first punch the clock job. He figured it out that each day he works he has to work 1.5 hours to pay his taxes.

He was so pissed.

Welcome to the real world.


Next time you go shopping take him on the 1st of the month and point out the EBT cards.

Remind him of his taxes.

His head will explode.



Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:34:07 AM EDT
Welfare Queen and her ill-begotten progeny thank your son for the Cheetos, candy bars, and Faygo.



AV1611
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:36:01 AM EDT
What's wrong with your son? He doesn't like supporting the military,courts, and all the rest of .gov?

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:38:15 AM EDT
You should have taken him down to a Jackson Hewitt office a couple of weeks ago, or better yet, go sit in the parking lot at the local WIC office.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:38:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Nightfalcon007:
What's wrong with your son? He doesn't like supporting the military,courts, and all the rest of .gov?



You  funny man, Doctah Jones.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:40:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Did you explain that his contributions are for the glory of the people's revolution and the much needed support of his proletariat comrades?


Speed


I told him that each time he's bagging up some FSA ribeye steaks, they use food stamps that he paid for them.


I really do think every kids first job should be in a grocery store
it sure opened this country boys eyes
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:40:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:43:06 AM EDT
Yep, welcome aboard sonny.



Now have some further fun, figure out what you paid when you started to work, and what you pay now.



Show that to him and let him see where he's headed. It'll never end...unless people get pissed enough.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:43:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
Tell him Shalanda thanks him.


Bullshit.  She be entitled to that money and ain't gonna thank nobody for it.

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Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:44:03 AM EDT
Bama, this is directed at you or your son, as I can tell from your posts on here that you and yours are good people.

That being said, I wonder how much further down the slope we can go before "this is bullshit!" becomes "this is bullshit and I'm gonna get some friends and kick the shit outta the first FSA-looking person I see!".  

As much as I might appreciate the outcome of America v FSA in the streets, I damn sure don't want it to happen.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 10:44:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/24/2013 10:45:58 AM EDT by Dan_Cooper]
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
...this is his first punch the clock job. He figured it out that each day he works he has to work 1.5 hours to pay his taxes.

He was so pissed.

Welcome to the real world.


Yeah, the FSA ain't free.  Somebody's got to pay for it.

You might want to tell him that the number of hours will work per day to pay his taxes is only going to increase as he makes more money and moves into higher tax brackets.  Progressive taxation and all that.


Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:36:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:40:49 PM EDT
is your kid 25+ years old?
if not you're doing good with him....he might even move out by the time he's 20 if you keep this up!
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:47:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1shott:
tell him to stop bitching and get back to work millions on welfare are depending on him...

Then show him this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufk7IXdxc-c


I would've had six children if I could have afforded it.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:56:13 PM EDT
Good for your son getting a job. Now tell him to work lots of overtime. I just started SS and I need the money.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:57:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bg10:
Try working into May to pay your taxes, and get back to me


Yep.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 3:59:46 PM EDT
Not everyone can ride in the wagon...
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:00:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Did you explain that his contributions are for the glory of the people's revolution and the much needed support of his proletariat comrades?


Speed


Da, comrade. Paying for betterment of whole union.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:02:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
...this is his first punch the clock job. He figured it out that each day he works he has to work 1.5 hours to pay his taxes.

He was so pissed.

Welcome to the real world.


Explain to him that his actual tax burden is much, much higher.  Sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes (if he's ever a homeowner), etc.  And it's about to get even worse when we feel the real effect of Obamacare.

Then show him how much of the public debt is his share (and not the per person amount, the per taxpayer amount), which represents the spending that isn't being paid for, but for which he will pay one way or another in the course of his lifetime.

He'll be ready and eager to join the revolution.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:09:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:09:43 PM EDT
check your paystub and tell him to keep you posted on his gross earnings for the year... then let him know when he grosses what you paid in taxes to this date... his head will cave in on itself...
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:09:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bg10:
Try working into May to pay your taxes, and get back to me


Yup.
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