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Posted: 8/2/2009 9:36:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 4:13:57 PM EST by Spenser_Burrows]
So, a friend of mine who is a complete liberal idiot (the guy is in DC doing an internship or something with democrat lobbyists ) posted some bullshit about health care and bashing republicans today, and in the ensuing discussion some other idiot friend of his says that:


"Actually, health care is a right..not a priviledge!"

I respond by asking since when, then they spit out this little gem:


"Since the beginning of human life. No wonder so many people hate Americans :)"

Naturally, I HAD to say something to this, so here's my response:



Blow me. There hasn't been any "right to health care" since the beginning of human life. It is a PRIVILEGE you get to fucking EARN by being a productive member of society.

You don't have a fucking right to demand that a surgeon who spent the better part of a fucking decade busting his ass to learn how to be a surgeon operate on you for without compensation for his fucking work.

You don't have a fucking right to demand that a company that spent billions of fucking dollars designing, testing, redesigning, retesting, and manufacturing a fucking drug give it to you for fucking free.

And you don't have a fucking right to put a fucking gun to the fucking heads of the taxpayers and demand that we pay for your fucking medical care.

All you have is the right to do get a fucking job and fucking work hard enough that you can earn your own fucking health care like everybody else. And if you can't, tough fucking shit. Design your own fucking drugs, and perform your own fucking surgeries.

How'd I do ARFCOM?



ETA:

My friend from DC jumped in on the idiot's side:


Sure. Sounds real American. If you can't live, then just die. Living is a privilege, not a right. Capitalism will save you. I love how you rich Republicans think. Just buy your way through life.

I respond with this:


Gotta love how democrats think: if you don't have something you want, have the government take it from somebody who does and give it to you.

I wonder when free cable will be declared a "right not a privilege!" that has existed since the beginning of human life...


ETA2:


You're right. Its the same. Good point. Good job rebublicans. Cable equals health.

Me:


You're right, cable isn't heath care.

Demanding that the government give you free cable is NOTHING compared to demanding access to expensive to design, build and operate medical equipment and facilities regardless of whether or not you can pay for it.

It is NOTHING compared to demanding that companies that invest millions upon millions of dollars to design, test, and produce drugs give you their products for free.

And it is NOTHING, fucking NOTHING compared to demanding that the services of doctors, nurses, and surgeons be provided to you regardless of whether or not you can compensate them for their time.


ETA3:

DC guy's family:

spenser burrows? don't know the boy and don't want to know him..boy, you are one foulmouthed, fox news watching, pricko if I ever heard one. I usually never respond to bitter sickos like you but I'll make an exception this time. Don't get me wrong pricko, I'm not taking your comments personal because I'm familiar with people like you. I served 2 years in the U.S. army paratroopers, (187th Parachute glider infantry regiment, 11th Airborne Division. I also served 4 years in the U.S. Navy and spent the 4 years aboard a destroyer. I fought in the Korean War and have been under enemy fire many times. I consider myself a real patriot, not one of the blowhard types such as yourself. If our country had to depend on people like you to defend us we would be in deep doodoo. You are one bitter dude. You spew forth bitterness and hate. I'd wish you well but I wouldn't really mean it.
DC guy:

A Party without ideas. So sad...... America wants to move forward, wake up call.....

Me:

With all due respect to your military service, you don’t know me.

At the moment, I don’t have enough money for cable or even a TV for that matter, and even if I did I can’t stand the loud, flashy WWE of the news media that is Fox News. I’m not even a damn republican. But you are right about one thing: I am bitter and fucking angry as I watch the democrats run this country into the ground with their class warfare bullshit so they can buy votes using taxpayer dollars.

“America wants to move forward.”
“Hope!”
“Change!”
“Yes we can!”

The only thing more mind-boggling than the fact that a major political party runs on nothing but meaningless one-lines devoid of any substance is the fact that the other party is too retarded to figure out how to beat them.

ETA4:

Another friend of his:

A few quick items: most of the R&D on drugs isn't privately funded, it's courtesy of taxpayer-funded research and subsidies - you can thank those socialized agencies like CDC and HHS. Furthermore, something like three-quarters of the drugs developed by the profit-driven drug companies are cosmetic, not health - seen a Viagra ad lately?
Approximately 400 people a year die in Colorado from lack of health insurance.
Medicare spends about 3% of its overhead in administrative costs. And capping insurance rates to cut down on doctors' costs and administrative waste is exactly what the President is trying to do.
The President's proposal would add-not subsitute- a public option to provide access to health care for everyone. Meanwhile, 'socialized medicine' in Europe and Canada has provided a longer lifespan, lower infant mortality, better vaccination rates, and better public health in general.

Me:

Do you have a source for the claim that most drug R&D is publicly funded? Because I have one that says you’re incorrect.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/294/11/1333


ETA5:
DC guy's family:

Mr. Burrows, I won't defend any party right now but I must say, Mickey Mouse would have been a relief for me after the bush administration. Maybe you can tell me what bush did that was positve. I'm curious to hear what you have to say about him. Since you're so bitter and angry get off your ass and do something about it. I did. I quit school after the 8th grade and joined the army at the age of 14. As a result of my service I qualified for the WWII GI bill and the Korean War GI bill. When I got out I get a GED diploma, two A.A. degrees , a BA degree, and a Master's degree. Join the army or marine corp and qualify for a GI bill.

Burrows..open your eyes and see...It's not the party it's the politicians. They're all the same. They are in it for themselves not for their constituants. If you believe they are representing you let me know and I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell to you, CHEAP !! Our government has been for sale to the highest bidder for many, many moons. They are bought and paid for. Nothing good will change if it's up to the politicians. Greed for power, prestige, and $$$$$ has caused our present situation. Look back at history. Mankind never learns.



Me:

Neither Bush’s nor anyone else’s actions excuse anything that the current government is doing, and it’s very telling when the best that can be said about the current government is that Mickey Mouse could have done a better job than the previous one.

And I am doing something about it, I’m busting my ass to earn an engineering degree because people like engineers will be needed to pay the taxes to keep these ridiculous schemes funded.


The fact that many republican politicians are scumbags in their own right has nothing to do with how insane all of this cheerleading about our Messiah president's grand plans to heal the sick by nationalizing health care and bankrupting the country is.


ETA6:
Family member:

burrows, from listening to your hateful rage I don't think you know what real busting ass means. I have suggestion for you. Go work out in the fields on a farm for a summer. Try it for one summer. engineers aren't the only ones that pay taxes. we all do so stow the crap about how only engineers will foot the bill. people like you are so closed minded and so filled with rage you become your own worst enemy. I used to feel sorry for people like you at one time. I've known a few. I don't feel sorry anymore because you people bring misery on youselves. with your foul mouth and bitter rage and it effects those around you.

you should consider running for an office in the rethuglican party. you'd fit right in with those weasels. maybe you could even help them to destroy their party even more. I assumed you were a loyal fox fan because you sound just exactly like them. You sound just like the example that little man named Ghandi described when asked what he thought about Christianity, He said, " I like your Christ, I don't like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ. "

Me:

A few years ago I spent six months doing concrete work in Oregon for my dad, working all day, 7 days a week. I know what it is like to do menial labor thank you very much, and I also know what it is like to stay up for 72 hours straight to get a lab assignment done. And I’ll stow the crap about how engineers and other professionals are going to get stuck with the majority of the bill for this horseshit when the government stops seizing half the income of people they decide are "too successful."

I find it amusing that you refer to the republicans as the “rethuglicans” when the democrats plan to fund their agenda by armed robbery...










Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:39:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 9:40:20 PM EST by GeorgeInNePa]
9/10

It's a bit short, but the overall feeling is there. Proper use of the word Fuck and/or it's derivatives helped your score.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:41:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:
9/10

It's a bit short, but the overall feeling is there. Proper use of the word Fuck and it's derivatives helped your score.

It'd be longer, but there is a maximum number of characters for a facebook comment and I ran out.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:42:23 PM EST
Could have been longer, other than that you did a nice job.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:43:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 9:47:50 PM EST by DvlDog]
I like to use an analogy, typically of a plumber or auto mechanic. You are seeking the assitance of a trained and licensed professional to perform a skilled service that you cannot perform for yourself. It is not a right. you do have the right to FAIR ACCESS to healthcare. You cant go to a hospital with a bone sticking out of your skin and have them say "sorry, this is a whites only hospital" or "sorry, we dont give antibiotics to asians" That is amoral and illegal.

Where does it stop?

do we have a "right" to air conditioning...do we need socialized HVAC service?

Should my car be maintained with tax payers money?

Should I have to pay out of pocket to get my toilet fixed? I have a RIGHT to shit, someone else should pay to make sure i shit comfortably.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:46:59 PM EST
Even with that logic you can counter him by saying that owning a gun is a right but you do not expect the .gov to give you guns.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:00:05 PM EST
They think it's a right simply because it is a lifesaving thing. Think of other lifesavers that certainly aren't a right and hit them with that.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:07:36 PM EST
Update bump
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:12:32 PM EST

Don't know how much money you make but feel free to let them know that I, a very recent college grad with significant student loans and poor job prospects in the current economy realize that morality is not based on whether or not something might help me. I know for damn sure it's not a right.

Oh, and I'm not a republican.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:28:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By DvlDog:
I like to use an analogy, typically of a plumber or auto mechanic. You are seeking the assitance of a trained and licensed professional to perform a skilled service that you cannot perform for yourself. It is not a right. you do have the right to FAIR ACCESS to healthcare. You cant go to a hospital with a bone sticking out of your skin and have them say "sorry, this is a whites only hospital" or "sorry, we dont give antibiotics to asians" That is amoral and illegal.

Where does it stop?

do we have a "right" to air conditioning...do we need socialized HVAC service?

Should my car be maintained with tax payers money?

Should I have to pay out of pocket to get my toilet fixed? I have a RIGHT to shit, someone else should pay to make sure i shit comfortably.


Very good analogy...

Someone also posted a link to article a while back that basically explained it like this:

You have the RIGHT to LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

  • Your right to LIFE does not burden any other person to GIVE you life...It simply forbids them from taking it away from you.

  • Your right to LIBERTY does not burden any other person to pay for your liberty...It simply forbids them from taking it away from you

  • Your right to THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS does not burden any other person to make you happy...It simply means YOU have the right to try to make YOURSELF happy


  • If HEALTHCARE was a RIGHT, it WOULD burden other people to pay for YOUR healthcare

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:29:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 10:30:00 PM EST by Zeruel]
"Healthcare" isn't just some magical thing that is handed out as a free resource. Healthcare is medicine, medical supplies but most importantly, healthcare is people; docturs, nurses. To say that you have a "right" to healthcare is to say that you have a right to the labor of others –– its an attempt to legitimize slavery (both of the health care providers, and of those who really pay the bills).
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:39:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 10:42:14 PM EST by TheAmaazingCarl]
Take your friend's wallet, and when he bitches about it, admonish him for being so selfish when YOU could obviously put it to better use. If he continues to bitch take his shoes, and every time he whines after that "fine" him some other property he obviously doesn't need as much as someone else does.

If he resists force is of course authorized since it is for the greater good, and frankly I am surprised that you are friends with someone so selfish that he hasn't already given you his wallet yet.



welcome to liberal thug mentality, don't worry, it won't last that long since they are all essentially lazy douchebags living off the work of others. Once people figure out that they get no reward for work they will just work less.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:47:09 PM EST
Just say, "Eat my asshole you fuckheads!" and then walk away. You will have just won the argument.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:51:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 10:53:29 PM EST by FlawlessCowboy]
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:53:13 PM EST
10th amendment.


Conversation done.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:56:21 PM EST
Wow, I got rich and no one told me?

WTF
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:59:47 PM EST
Round 3 bump.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:00:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:02:21 PM EST
People that stupid shouldn't have a right to anything, including life.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:16:19 PM EST
I'll tell you exactly how this argument is going to end.

(because i've had the same argument over and over again on facebook with my "friends")

They will take your reason, and raise you person insults, followed up mindless liberal chants "viva la revolution.." "Yes we can".. etc..

Then they will say "You don't know what you are talking about.. you have a tiny dick, and you are what's wrong with America..."

I'd stop while you are ahead and you have a record of them replying like a douchebag and you can still save face.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:20:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By unpleasant:
I'll tell you exactly how this argument is going to end.

(because i've had the same argument over and over again on facebook with my "friends")

They will take your reason, and raise you person insults, followed up mindless liberal chants "viva la revolution.." "Yes we can".. etc..

Then they will say "You don't know what you are talking about.. you have a tiny dick, and you are what's wrong with America..."

I'd stop while you are ahead and you have a record of them replying like a douchebag and you can still save face.

That's probably the smart thing to do, but I'm having way too much fun.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:25:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...

I believe that's a textbook example of what Ayn Rand referred to as a "college-infected parasite."

And on an unrelated side note, I understand and approve of your avatar.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:27:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...

I believe that's a textbook example of what Ayn Rand referred to as a "college-infected parasite."

And on an unrelated side note, I understand and approve of your avatar.


Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:38:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...

I believe that's a textbook example of what Ayn Rand referred to as a "college-infected parasite."

And on an unrelated side note, I understand and approve of your avatar.



I think I'm pretty safe in assuming you know something about chemistry. You could throw in the hundreds of millions of dollars it costs to bring a drug to market and the years of expensive testing and trials to make sure it doesn't give anyone so much as a hangnail (lest they call the lawyers to sue you for all your profits and then some). Not only are they stealing from the doctors who treat the patients they're stealing from the people who gave the doctor their tools. It's also the scientists who isolated and characterized the compound (in the case of natural products) or devised and perfected a multistep total synthesis (in the case of an unnatural target) as well as all the process people who figured out how to scale it up to the point you can obtain enough of the drug for everyone that needs it. You're not just stealing from the best and brightest doctors, you're also stealing from some of the best and brightest scientists as well.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:41:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
People that stupid shouldn't have a right to anything, including life.


QFT.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 11:48:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...

I believe that's a textbook example of what Ayn Rand referred to as a "college-infected parasite."

And on an unrelated side note, I understand and approve of your avatar.



I think I'm pretty safe in assuming you know something about chemistry. You could throw in the hundreds of millions of dollars it costs to bring a drug to market and the years of expensive testing and trials to make sure it doesn't give anyone so much as a hangnail (lest they call the lawyers to sue you for all your profits and then some). Not only are they stealing from the doctors who treat the patients they're stealing from the people who gave the doctor their tools. It's also the scientists who isolated and characterized the compound (in the case of natural products) or devised and perfected a multistep total synthesis (in the case of an unnatural target) as well as all the process people who figured out how to scale it up to the point you can obtain enough of the drug for everyone that needs it. You're not just stealing from the best and brightest doctors, you're also stealing from some of the best and brightest scientists as well.

Even worse, you're stealing the capital that is needed to make new advances. If the industry can't make money off the pharmaceuticals they sell, how the fuck do the liberals expect it to fund R&D? "Hope" isn't gonna pay the lab's fucking bills.

And on a personal level, I'm a chemical engineering major. I KNOW that in this economy I'm gonna have a hard time finding a job when I graduate, but if Obama gets to do everything he wants to do...
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:15:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:
In an ideal situation it would be longer but given the character limitations of the format with which you replied it's very well done. 10/10


Edit: 0/10 for whomever replied to you. They ducked your points and went with what basically was an "Easy for you to say." Translated from liberal in to english I think that would read "You're right, I got nothin'."

You'd never guess which one is a polsci major and which one of us hasn't taken a non-technical class the entire time they've been at a university...

I believe that's a textbook example of what Ayn Rand referred to as a "college-infected parasite."

And on an unrelated side note, I understand and approve of your avatar.



I think I'm pretty safe in assuming you know something about chemistry. You could throw in the hundreds of millions of dollars it costs to bring a drug to market and the years of expensive testing and trials to make sure it doesn't give anyone so much as a hangnail (lest they call the lawyers to sue you for all your profits and then some). Not only are they stealing from the doctors who treat the patients they're stealing from the people who gave the doctor their tools. It's also the scientists who isolated and characterized the compound (in the case of natural products) or devised and perfected a multistep total synthesis (in the case of an unnatural target) as well as all the process people who figured out how to scale it up to the point you can obtain enough of the drug for everyone that needs it. You're not just stealing from the best and brightest doctors, you're also stealing from some of the best and brightest scientists as well.

Even worse, you're stealing the capital that is needed to make new advances. If the industry can't make money off the pharmaceuticals they sell, how the fuck do the liberals expect it to fund R&D? "Hope" isn't gonna pay the lab's fucking bills.

And on a personal level, I'm a chemical engineering major. I KNOW that in this economy I'm gonna have a hard time finding a job when I graduate, but if Obama gets to do everything he wants to do...

I was going to go there but I thought that would be too much for your opponent. If you're dealing with people who're having a hard time grasping the concept that doctors expect to be compensated for their time and hard work then you'll be even less successful trying to explain how the profits Pfizer made from selling Viagra helped to create Celebrex and how the profits from Celebrex will be what creates whatever comes next.

If liberals understood that actions have consequences then they wouldn't be liberals.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:17:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Even worse, you're stealing the capital that is needed to make new advances. If the industry can't make money off the pharmaceuticals they sell, how the fuck do the liberals expect it to fund R&D? "Hope" isn't gonna pay the lab's fucking bills.

And on a personal level, I'm a chemical engineering major. I KNOW that in this economy I'm gonna have a hard time finding a job when I graduate, but if Obama gets to do everything he wants to do...

I was going to go there but I thought that would be too much for your opponent. If you're dealing with people who're having a hard time grasping the concept that doctors expect to be compensated for their time and hard work then you'll be even less successful trying to explain how the profits Pfizer made from selling Viagra helped to create Celebrex and how the profits from Celebrex will be what creates whatever comes next.

If liberals understood that actions have consequences then they wouldn't be liberals.

That is sigline quality material right there.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:40:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Originally Posted By FlawlessCowboy:

Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:

Even worse, you're stealing the capital that is needed to make new advances. If the industry can't make money off the pharmaceuticals they sell, how the fuck do the liberals expect it to fund R&D? "Hope" isn't gonna pay the lab's fucking bills.

And on a personal level, I'm a chemical engineering major. I KNOW that in this economy I'm gonna have a hard time finding a job when I graduate, but if Obama gets to do everything he wants to do...

I was going to go there but I thought that would be too much for your opponent. If you're dealing with people who're having a hard time grasping the concept that doctors expect to be compensated for their time and hard work then you'll be even less successful trying to explain how the profits Pfizer made from selling Viagra helped to create Celebrex and how the profits from Celebrex will be what creates whatever comes next.

If liberals understood that actions have consequences then they wouldn't be liberals.

That is sigline quality material right there.


+1 to that.

10/10 on the rant
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 1:50:37 AM EST
You do have a right to take care of your own health. You do not have the right to make someone else pay for it.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:27:50 AM EST
Good rant 10/10

Facebook is crawling with libtards. I personally can't stand the place.

This part of your post still confuses me though -

So, a friend of mine who is a complete liberal idiot


Do you mean just a 'Facebook friend', or an actual friend in real life?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:30:16 AM EST
Explain owning guns is a right, wheres my free guns?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:45:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:49:43 AM EST
So if health care is a right, why does Obama want old people just to take a painkiller instead of life saving surgery?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 2:58:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 3:09:43 AM EST by Dr_Dickie]
Well, I would say that control over your healthcare is a right.
That means:
a) There should not be any prescription drugs (if you are stupid enough to take something without knowing consequences, the gene pool could do without you).
b) You should have a right to choose who you get your medical advice from (if the doctor is un-certified, then you are an idiot to take their advice, but you have a right o be an idiot––see gene pool above).
c) I have a right to decide what I eat, drink, and smoke (if I choose). I have a right to exercise or not. I understand the consequences of my actions and I decide whether or not the risks out weight the benefits. I understand that certain behaviors will change my risks in mortality and morbidity and that will be expressed in cost of healthcare insurance should I decide to buy some. Again, my choice!
d) I have the right to live my life the way I decide, so long as I do not infringe on your rights.

What is not a right, is for the government to put a gun to my head to take money to pay for your laziness.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 3:03:16 AM EST
9/10

Definitely used "fuck" in most of it's socially acceptable forms.



Link Posted: 8/3/2009 3:05:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sleepy1988:
People that stupid shouldn't have a right to anything, including life.

As my father used to say, "some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them."
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 3:17:23 AM EST
I agree with what you said I disagree with the use of FUCK to make a point. When someone uses the word over and over again they use credibility in my eyes. It always sounds to me like the person wants to get physical to be able to claim victory in an argument.
Maybe I'll too old. Under obama health care I'd just get a pill since at my age I'm considered worthless. What happened to respect your elders?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:15:22 AM EST
Round 4 bump
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:19:48 AM EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZq-t8u46lc&feature=related

Send them this link. They will love it
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:24:04 AM EST

His family commentary is strange.

"I got shot at, therefor my opinions are better than yours"
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:29:45 AM EST
9/10. Would've gotten 10/10 if one of the two were present:

1. More variety of cursing. Volume of the word 'fuck' and its derivatives was fine, but some variety is good too.
2. Any credible evidence of democrats kidnapping children or eating puppies would've gotten you to 10.

Good rant.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:30:43 AM EST
Originally Posted By Spenser_Burrows:


DC guy's family:

spenser burrows? don't know the boy and don't want to know him..boy,you are one foulmouthed, fox news watching, pricko if I ever heard one.I usually never respond to bitter sickos like you but I'll make anexception this time. Don't get me wrong pricko, I'm not taking yourcomments personal because I'm familiar with people like you. I served 2yearsin the U.S. army paratroopers, (187th Parachute glider infantryregiment, 11th Airborne Division. I also served 4 years in the U.S.Navy and spent the 4 years aboard a destroyer. I fought in the KoreanWar and have been under enemy fire many times. I consider myself a realpatriot, not one of the blowhard types such as yourself. If our countryhad to depend on people like you to defend us we would be in deepdoodoo. You are one bitter dude. You spew forth bitterness and hate.I'd wish you well but I wouldn't really mean it.



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I find it hard to believe someone that is around the age of 75 would speak like this let alone play on facebook....

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Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:36:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 10:38:07 AM EST by RayGunz2]
While I do not agree with your bash of fox news, since I believe that is the only outlet that might get people thinking, I did agree with most of your rant, especially your final line"The only thing more mind-boggling than the fact that a major political party runs on nothing but meaningless one-lines devoid of any substance is the fact that the other party is too retarded to figure out how to beat them. ". I am going to deduct points for overuse of the f-bomb. While I truly appreciate that proper use of such an expletive, when you use strong profanity that often, it loses its edge and makes your opponent believe you are at a loss for words.

7/10
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:37:22 AM EST
You're on the right track BUT wasting your time with this loser.



- CD
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:43:21 AM EST
Because intelligent people have to curse to get their point across, good job! While I strongly disagree with healthcare being offered to illegals, I do think every American citizen should be afforded it. I don't know about you, but now a days most companies make you pay for your own health care. I think it would be a heavy burden lifted off our shoulders if the healthcare was public, instead of private. Have you ever been to a hospital for a serious injury? My brother lost his spleen and had to be Bay-Flighted to a trauma center and had his spleen removed. What if my family lost their jobs due to outsourcing or a bad economy and did not have insurance? Would the hospital have treated him as rapidly as they did? And how would my parents have paid his $50,000+ medical bills? My grandfather was recently diagnosed with stage 2 melanoma, the cancer center WOULDN'T perform the operation on him because of some VA insurance bullshit. The man fought for his country in the pacific and they want to let him rot.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:43:31 AM EST
Sure, there is a right to have access to health care.

What no one has is the right to force someone to provide it for you.

Just like everyone has a right to keep & bear arms, that means you have the right to buy the arms, or make them yourself. Forcing others to buy a gun for you because you have a right to keep & bear is ridiculous!
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:45:06 AM EST
Your "friend" debates like a 15 year old girl.

Really.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:47:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By xpired:
Because intelligent people have to curse to get their point across, good job! While I strongly disagree with healthcare being offered to illegals, I do think every American citizen should be afforded it. I don't know about you, but now a days most companies make you pay for your own health care. I think it would be a heavy burden lifted off our shoulders if the healthcare was public, instead of private. Have you ever been to a hospital for a serious injury? My brother lost his spleen and had to be Bay-Flighted to a trauma center and had his spleen removed. What if my family lost their jobs due to outsourcing or a bad economy and did not have insurance? Would the hospital have treated him as rapidly as they did? And how would my parents have paid his $50,000+ medical bills? My grandfather was recently diagnosed with stage 2 melanoma, the cancer center WOULDN'T perform the operation on him because of some VA insurance bullshit. The man fought for his country in the pacific and they want to let him rot.

Completely ignoring the morality of forcing some taxpayers to pay for goods and services that will then be awarded to other private citizens, do you REALLY think it would be ANY better if the government was running things?
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