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Posted: 9/15/2005 4:08:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 4:26:39 AM EDT by thedave1164]
Fox News was reporting that they expect Bush will announce the reconstruction plan for NO tonight in his national address from the devastated cresent city. They said it will exceed $200 Billion. And all the pundents seem to be in the mode of "how can we not rebuild the city?"

I say "How can we afford to?"

But I came up with a plan.......

Bush's New Deal 2005:

It will be real easy since the precedents for this action have already been set since his inauguration in 2001.

Use ED and seizure of private property for the public good/safety and take the cash from these 25 people:

1 Gates, William Henry III 46.0 billion 47 Seattle , WA Microsoft
2 Buffett, Warren Edward 36.0 billion 73 Omaha , NE Berkshire Hathaway
3 Allen, Paul Gardner 22.0 billion 50 Mercer Island , WA Microsoft, investments
4 Walton, Alice L 20.5 billion 54 Fort Worth , TX Wal-Mart
4 Walton, Helen R 20.5 billion 84 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, Jim C 20.5 billion 55 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, John T 20.5 billion 57 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, S Robson 20.5 billion 59 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
9 Ellison, Lawrence Joseph 18.0 billion 59 Redwood Shores , CA Oracle
10 Dell, Michael 13.0 billion 38 Round Rock , TX Dell
11 Ballmer, Steven Anthony 12.2 billion 47 Redmond , WA Microsoft
12 Anthony, Barbara Cox 11.0 billion 80 Honolulu , HI Cox Communications
12 Chambers, Anne Cox 11.0 billion 83 Atlanta , GA Cox Communications
14 Kluge, John Werner 10.5 billion 89 Palm Beach , FL Metromedia
15 Mars, Forrest Edward Jr 10.4 billion 72 McLean , VA Mars, Inc.
15 Mars, Jacqueline 10.4 billion 64 Bedminster , NJ Mars, Inc.
15 Mars, John Franklyn 10.4 billion 67 Arlington , VA Mars, Inc.
18 Johnson, Abigail 9.8 billion 41 Boston , MA mutual funds
19 Redstone, Sumner M 9.7 billion 80 Beverly Hills , CA Viacom
20 Ergen, Charles 8.9 billion 50 Denver , CO EchoStar
21 Newhouse, Donald Edward 7.7 billion 73 Somerset County , NJ publishing
21 Newhouse, Samuel Irving Jr 7.7 billion 75 New York , NY publishing
23 Pritzker, Robert Alan 7.6 billion 77 Chicago , IL hotels, investments
23 Pritzker, Thomas J 7.6 billion 54 Chicago , IL hotels, investments
25 Johnson, Samuel Curtis 7.4 billion 75 Racine , WI S.C. Johnson & Son


Heck we could even let them keep a billion each, tax free for the rest of their lives.

You know, I am even growing fond of my idea, the more I think about it, the better I like it. We will have only 25 people suffer (If you could call being a 1 billionaire suffering) for the good of the masses.

And we will lift all those people out of their poverty and give them a new headstart on life. And the rest of America won't have to bear the brunt of increased taxes/deficit for the next 2 centuries.

And why stop there, there are over 225 people that have over $1 Billion, lets make them all even at $1 Billion and make it tax free for the rest of their lives (except the death tax, why should we not get the rest then, they can't take it with them...)

We could almost end would poverty.

We could call it Dave's New Deal for the Global Good.


That is all,


Discuss
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:13:45 AM EDT
We'll just go back to the gold or silver standard and bankrupt the rest of the world Fuck 'em they don't like us anyway
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:14:16 AM EDT
.... Um, no

... How many people will be laid off due to forcing these employers money from their accounts?

... What you're advocating is Socialism, borderline Communism
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:24:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 4:25:42 AM EDT by thedave1164]

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
.... Um, no

... How many people will be laid off due to forcing these employers money from their accounts?

... What you're advocating is Socialism, borderline Communism



But we are talking about TAX FREE MONEY now.

They will never have to pay tax on whats left.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:28:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:45:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:45:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 4:49:19 AM EDT by shootemup]

Originally Posted By thedave1164:
Fox News was reporting that they expect Bush will announce the reconstruction plan for NO tonight in his national address from the devastated cresent city. They said it will exceed $200 Billion. And all the pundents seem to be in the mode of "how can we not rebuild the city?"

I say "How can we afford to?"

But I came up with a plan.......

Bush's New Deal 2005:

It will be real easy since the precedents for this action have already been set since his inauguration in 2001.

Use ED and seizure of private property for the public good/safety and take the cash from these 25 people:

1 Gates, William Henry III 46.0 billion 47 Seattle , WA Microsoft
2 Buffett, Warren Edward 36.0 billion 73 Omaha , NE Berkshire Hathaway
3 Allen, Paul Gardner 22.0 billion 50 Mercer Island , WA Microsoft, investments
4 Walton, Alice L 20.5 billion 54 Fort Worth , TX Wal-Mart
4 Walton, Helen R 20.5 billion 84 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, Jim C 20.5 billion 55 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, John T 20.5 billion 57 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
4 Walton, S Robson 20.5 billion 59 Bentonville , AR Wal-Mart
9 Ellison, Lawrence Joseph 18.0 billion 59 Redwood Shores , CA Oracle
10 Dell, Michael 13.0 billion 38 Round Rock , TX Dell
11 Ballmer, Steven Anthony 12.2 billion 47 Redmond , WA Microsoft
12 Anthony, Barbara Cox 11.0 billion 80 Honolulu , HI Cox Communications
12 Chambers, Anne Cox 11.0 billion 83 Atlanta , GA Cox Communications
14 Kluge, John Werner 10.5 billion 89 Palm Beach , FL Metromedia
15 Mars, Forrest Edward Jr 10.4 billion 72 McLean , VA Mars, Inc.
15 Mars, Jacqueline 10.4 billion 64 Bedminster , NJ Mars, Inc.
15 Mars, John Franklyn 10.4 billion 67 Arlington , VA Mars, Inc.
18 Johnson, Abigail 9.8 billion 41 Boston , MA mutual funds
19 Redstone, Sumner M 9.7 billion 80 Beverly Hills , CA Viacom
20 Ergen, Charles 8.9 billion 50 Denver , CO EchoStar
21 Newhouse, Donald Edward 7.7 billion 73 Somerset County , NJ publishing
21 Newhouse, Samuel Irving Jr 7.7 billion 75 New York , NY publishing
23 Pritzker, Robert Alan 7.6 billion 77 Chicago , IL hotels, investments
23 Pritzker, Thomas J 7.6 billion 54 Chicago , IL hotels, investments
25 Johnson, Samuel Curtis 7.4 billion 75 Racine , WI S.C. Johnson & Son


Heck we could even let them keep a billion each, tax free for the rest of their lives.

You know, I am even growing fond of my idea, the more I think about it, the better I like it. We will have only 25 people suffer (If you could call being a 1 billionaire suffering) for the good of the masses.

And we will lift all those people out of their poverty and give them a new headstart on life. And the rest of America won't have to bear the brunt of increased taxes/deficit for the next 2 centuries.

And why stop there, there are over 225 people that have over $1 Billion, lets make them all even at $1 Billion and make it tax free for the rest of their lives (except the death tax, why should we not get the rest then, they can't take it with them...)

We could almost end would poverty.

We could call it Dave's New Deal for the Global Good.


That is all,


Discuss



That is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever read on here

ETA:

If you are serious, which I think you are, you're suggesting that the gov't and the country as a whole, subsidize some people that took risk in life and inplemented ingenuity in their lives to relieve the stupidity and ignorance of others?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:50:18 AM EDT
We need that much more money? Let's just print more.

Pretty simple.

Link Posted: 9/15/2005 4:59:47 AM EDT
I've never been employed by a poor person. Unless you work for the .gov, you haven'e either.

Think about that.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:12:29 AM EDT
Why in the hell is the government footing the bill?!?!? If people want to rebuild NO, let them pay for it!
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:20:09 AM EDT
Sure, lets just sell off 200 billion in stock and holdings from the 25 richest people in america to generate cash for Hurricane Katrina relief.......I'm sure the stock market won't notice.............still an interesting thought though......why don't we call back our troops, then have them start fighting south. We'll stop them when they hit Paraguay, and then we will have lots of oil, more rain forest lumber to pillage for cheap plywood, and hot Brazilian chics will be called the "new southerners"........
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:35:12 AM EDT
Don't worry guys, I have not gone off of the reservation.

We have a serious problem ahead of us, and the elected officials are going to spend us into eternal debt.

I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT I JOKINGLY SUGGESTED IS THE ANSWER.

I am suprised that I did not get hate IM's


My senario was exagerated, but it is pretty much what is going to happen to all of us when Bush and congress are done writting the checks.

Think about it.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:42:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
.... Um, no

... How many people will be laid off due to forcing these employers money from their accounts?

... What you're advocating is Socialism, borderline Communism



How is it different than taking money from everybody? The federal government rebuilding New Orleans at all is socialism.
They should rebuild any interstate highways that were damaged by the hurricane. Other than that, the entire responsibility should be on the state and local governments for public rebuilding, and private funds (including insurance that citizens have purchased) for rebuilding anything private.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 5:45:49 AM EDT
what about corporate and private reconstruction? pretty much rebuilding the city in a completely modern way and with an appealing image. seems as if it would be doable. not sure how to overcome the claims of exisinting property owners without it dragging out in the courts for years though.



Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:35:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 7:39:51 AM EDT by thedave1164]
www.wwltv.com/local/stories/091505ccKatrinajcBushOffer.944a9b3d.html





Bush to offer hurricane aid package

07:04 AM CDT on Thursday, September 15, 2005


By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Faced with the unprecedented destruction of a major U.S. city and communities across the Gulf Coast, President Bush is using an address to the nation to offer a package of new federal aid to help uprooted hurricane victims rebuild their lives.

President George Bush will address the nation from New Orleans Thursday night on Hurricane Katrina recovery efforts. Here he visited St. Bernard Parish just outside of New Orleans Monday.

Bush was announcing his reconstruction plan in New Orleans on Thursday night during a televised address also aimed at mending his image as a strong leader in a time of crisis.


It is Bush's first formal prime-time speech during more than two weeks of suffering along the Gulf, with most of the victims chased out by floodwaters in New Orleans. Bush planned to speak from the heart of the French Quarter, while across the city officials were still working to pump out waters and collect bodies left behind.


Bush planned to show sympathy for the misery brought on by the killer storm while charting a hopeful vision for the future. Many people, including members of the president's party, have said he should have given that kind of speech soon after the hurricane made landfall along the coast on Aug. 29.


Presidential advisers drafting the speech were working on plans for legislation that would provide job training and housing for people who have to start over, according to one Republican official. The advisers also were discussing tax credits for businesses to stay in the devastated region, said the official, who was consulted but wanted to remain anonymous because Bush had yet to deliver the speech.


Polling shows Americans are willing to pay to rebuild New Orleans. According to a CBS-New York Times poll released Wednesday, 73 percent expect their taxes will increase as a result of Katrina, and more than half said they were willing to pay more taxes to help with Katrina recovery, job training and housing for victims.

Rather than speak before a live audience, Bush planned to stand alone and broadcast his message directly into the camera from the evacuated city's historic Jackson Square, according to a White House official speaking on condition of anonymity since the site had not been announced.


The square and its most famed landmark, the St. Louis Cathedral, were on high enough ground to avoid flooding but did not escape damage from Katrina's 145-mph winds. Two massive oak trees outside the 278-year-old cathedral came out by the roots, ripping out a 30-foot section of ornamental iron fence and snapping off the thumb and forefinger of the outstretched hand on a marble statue of Jesus.


Bush planned to make a stop in Mississippi before going to New Orleans for the speech, but the White House would not give details of his plans. After the address, he was returning to the White House.


The format of the speech - Bush speaking alone to a national audience from a famous urban site - is reminiscent of his address from the front of the Statue of Liberty three years ago on the first anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.


ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox shuffled their Thursday schedules to air his remarks live. Bush planned to speak for about 30 minutes, beginning at precisely two minutes after 9 p.m. EDT to accommodate the broadcasters.


McClellan said Bush would describe new initiatives but would not announce the appointment of an official to oversee the recovery effort. Some GOP allies in Congress have urged the president to do just that.


Bush was to commit to meeting people's immediate needs and to supporting local ideas about how the new communities should look, McClellan said.


According to one White House aide, Bush also planned to acknowledge the role of poverty in the disaster that has affected many who could least afford it. Black Americans have been particularly angered by the government response to the disaster, with an overwhelming majority telling pollsters they believe help would have come quicker if so many of the people stranded were not poor and black.


The perception of a sluggish response to the storm has led to the lowest approval ratings of Bush's presidency.


Bush, who prides himself on being a direct communicator, has struggled to convey a clear message since the storm hit. He began this week by dismissing questions about what went wrong as a "blame game." But on Tuesday, he said he took responsibility for any failures on the federal end.


The White House hoped that Bush's acceptance of responsibility and the commitment to rebuilding would help restore the public's faith in his leadership.


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On the Net:


White House: www.whitehouse.gov


Federal Emergency Management Agency: fema.gov


©2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



ETA they didn't poll me
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:44:47 AM EDT
It’s ridiculous any way you look at it. Why the hell should I be paying for them to rebuild their homes when they chose to live in the disaster area they formerly lived in? Bush is WRONG.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:51:39 AM EDT

Polling shows Americans are willing to pay to rebuild New Orleans. According to a CBS-New York Times poll released Wednesday, 73 percent expect their taxes will increase as a result of Katrina, and more than half said they were willing to pay more taxes to help with Katrina recovery, job training and housing for victims.


Nobody asked me.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 1:53:33 PM EDT
so how big of a check will GW write tonite?
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