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Posted: 3/12/2006 10:19:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 10:26:25 AM EDT by AZ-K9]
Hecklers harass families of US soldiers killed in Iraq
Mar 12 7:21 AM US/Eastern
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Five women sang and danced as they held up signs saying "thank God for dead soldiers" at the funeral of an army sergeant who was killed by an Iraqi bomb.

For them, it was the perfect way to spread God's word: America was being punished for tolerating homosexuality.

For the hundreds of flag waving bikers who came to this small town in Michigan Saturday to shield the soldier's family, it was disgusting.

"That could be me in that church," said Jackie Sandler whose son Keith is currently serving his second tour of duty in Iraq.

The fringe group of fire and brimstone Baptists from Kansas has been courting controversy for more than 15 years, traveling the country with their hateful signs and slogans.

The Westboro Baptist Church first gained national notoriety when they picked the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a Wyoming student who was murdered in 1998 for being gay.

They have since picketed the funerals of Frank Sinatra and Bill Clinton's mother, celebrated the terrorist attacks of September 11 as an act of God's wrath, and have even targeted Santa Claus and the Ku Klux Klan.

But it was the callousness and cruelty of harassing the grieving families of soldiers at dozens of funerals across the country that has sparked a grassroots movement of bikers determined to drown out the jeers and taunts.

In Flushing, Michigan they turned their leather-clad backs to the five women and held flags and tarps up so that mourners walking past wouldn't see the signs saying "God hates fags," "fag vets" and "America is doomed."

Many found it hard to hide their anger when Margie Phelps, the daughter of Westboro's founder, called out "All this for little old us? Oh, you shouldn't have. I feel so special," before she started singing "the Pope, the Pope, the Pope is on fire. He don't get no water let the heretics burn" in front of a Catholic church.

The glee with which the women hurled insults made John Franklin, 64, sick to his stomach.

"This guy's family deserves a peaceful funeral. It's not right what they're doing," said Franklin, who fought in the Vietnam War. "The only reason they're able to walk around like that is because the veterans fought for their freedom."

While Westboro's congregation remains stable at around 100 people - most of whom are the extended family of founder Fred Phelps - the ranks of the Patriot Guard Riders has swelled to more than 16,000 in just a few months.

The protests come at a time when many Americans think the war in Iraq was a mistake but are anxious to show their support for the troops.

Four states have enacted legislation barring protests at funerals and a dozen more are in the process of introducing bans. But it is unlikely that the bans will stand up to legal challenge.

The group is careful to protest in public spaces and is well aware of its constitutional rights - 11 of Phelps' 13 children are lawyers.

"This nation is poised to trash the first amendment just to stop my preaching," Fred Phelps said in a telephone interview. "I'm kind of honored."

Phelps said he and his congregants are targeting the funerals because God's way of punishing an "evil nation" of "fags and fag enablers" is to "pick off its children."

"I don't have any sympathy for these parents. They're all going to hell," Phelps said. "The family's in pain because they haven't obeyed the Lord God."

The group is so outrageous that some among the extreme-right have speculated that Phelps is a plant aimed at giving the anti-gay movement a bad name, said Mark Potok, the director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center which tracks hate crimes.

"I don't think they have any constituency beyond their own members - even the Nazis aren't interested," he said.

Phelps' virulence and frequently graphic condemnations of anal sex could mask a deeper issue than a radically literal interpretation of the Bible, Potok speculated.

"This man probably thinks more about gay sex than any other person in the United States of America and one can only guess at what that means," he said. "Many of the most homophobic people are deeply afraid that they might be gay."

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I am gonna put a clause in my last will to assign a large portion of my assets towards the sniper who kills any of these tards at my funeral....

Here is their re-worded verison of:

From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
Fighting this vile nation’s battles
Has made God your enemy
First you fought for feces eaters
Then for sinners—proud and mean
Shame on those who claim the title
Of United States Marine.
For the filthy bloody US flag
They are coming home in bags
With the IED God’s blown them up
No toes left for their toe tags
If the army and the navy
Ever gaze on hell’s grim scenes
They will find the streets are loaded up
With United States Marines
There’s a rule in war that’s number 1
WHACK!
You must know your enemy
With God’s fury pouring out on you --
Say goodbye to victory
All your laws and worship of the dead
Will not stop one IED
It’s too late to ask for God to bless
The United States Marines
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:25:16 AM EDT
"the ranks of the Patriot Guard Riders has swelled to more than 16,000 in just a few months."

Thats a good group of people right there.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:42:51 AM EDT
As if Kansas wasnt already bad enough....


We have fuckin religious yuppies who are fanatics that are a bunch of hippie freak hypocrites.



This country is going to hell in a handbasket quick.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:47:26 AM EDT
GOD himself would not stop me from giving them HELL at that place of honor.


That is all.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:51:58 AM EDT
Minnesota just passed a law moving protesters 1000 feet from a military funeral because of these scumbags.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:54:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:56:26 AM EDT
How sad that some will utilize a funeral to excercise their freedoms...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:56:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:
As if Kansas wasnt already bad enough....


We have fuckin religious yuppies who are fanatics that are a bunch of hippie freak hypocrites.



This country is going to hell in a handbasket quick.



Yep...
A hippie's a damn dirty hippie, no matter what finish they got on 'em...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 10:56:30 AM EDT
Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:04:55 AM EDT
I'm honestly amazed that somebody hasn't just gone over and just kicked their asses.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:20:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By P_Roberts:
Minnesota just passed a law moving protesters 1000 feet from a military funeral because of these scumbags.



Kansas is passing a 500ft. protesting law.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:21:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
I'm honestly amazed that somebody hasn't just gone over and just kicked their asses.



this july i had to physicaly restrain my (now ex) wife from emptying her s&w into a group of these bastards while we were on the way to a gun show in topeka.

that said i had a strong urge to "lose control of my vehicle"
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:29:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By P_Roberts:
Minnesota just passed a law moving protesters 1000 feet from a military funeral because of these scumbags.


It would be nice if Minnesota included in that law that an alligator and piranha-infested moat be placed exactly 999 feet from every military funeral.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:30:12 AM EDT
The protesters are ghey haters desperately trying to get press coverage, not peaceniks.

Where are those S. Korean water cannon trucks when you need them?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:31:21 AM EDT


Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:38:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 11:39:06 AM EDT by Octopus5alive]
Do you think that if someone were to empty a 30rd mag into these assholes and killed em that the shooter would be put to death, if the cops didn't kill me him first?

Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:39:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:41:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GlockLuvinRedleg:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
I'm honestly amazed that somebody hasn't just gone over and just kicked their asses.



this july i had to physicaly restrain my (now ex) wife from emptying her s&w into a group of these bastards while we were on the way to a gun show in topeka.

that said i had a strong urge to "lose control of my vehicle"




I wouldn't convict you.

Sometimes, that sort of stuff just happens.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:43:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:51:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:

Baptists from Kansas


Damn. Just damn.

\


Baptofascists.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 11:52:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By Paul:

Baptists from Kansas

Damn. Just damn.


Baptofascists.


Leftist plants.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:26:57 PM EDT
These "people" are not Baptists or in any way Christian. They in NO WAY display anything Christ advocated....I heard wisconson has also passed a law against this crap. & I think Michigan is going to deal with this soon...
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:29:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By Paul:

Baptists from Kansas

Damn. Just damn.


Baptofascists.


Leftist plants.



Religious wackjobs have a long history in Kansas, since before it was a state.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:30:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 12:31:02 PM EDT by blacklisted]
These crazy bastards came to protest at my High School once...

I believe it was before the Iraq war.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:31:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:

Originally Posted By GlockLuvinRedleg:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
I'm honestly amazed that somebody hasn't just gone over and just kicked their asses.



this july i had to physicaly restrain my (now ex) wife from emptying her s&w into a group of these bastards while we were on the way to a gun show in topeka.

that said i had a strong urge to "lose control of my vehicle"




I wouldn't convict you.

Sometimes, that sort of stuff just happens.




Maybe....a defect? Something that was recalled but hadnt been taken to the shop yet?


"Wow officer, there was this dog and a child running out after it in the street.....I pressed on my brakes and swerved to avoid him. I managed to somehow hit 13 hippies illegally and immorally protesting this good, honorable soldier's funeral. "
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:36:19 PM EDT
Remington 700P in .308
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:39:34 PM EDT
Maybe the Great State of Alabama could furlough our 3 young church burners for a long weekend trip to Kansas.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:39:45 PM EDT
Bastards of the lowest scum order.

Fuck em.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:41:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.



+1
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:42:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 12:42:45 PM EDT by XDBACKUPGUN]
The CoC prevents me from saying what I want.


But just imagine what you are thinking and add 10 times the Violence.



Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:43:23 PM EDT
Why do some people confuse Freedom of Speech with being a total asshole? It really is NOT that hard to keep the two straight.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:49:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MissouriBob:

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.



+1



Sometimes, even that doesnt matter.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 12:59:55 PM EDT
If I knew I had a terminal disease like pancreatic cancer I would seriously empty a few 30 rounders at them. I don't give a shit if they jail me cause I'll be dead and happy.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 1:00:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GlockLuvinRedleg:

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
I'm honestly amazed that somebody hasn't just gone over and just kicked their asses.



this july i had to physicaly restrain my (now ex) wife from emptying her s&w into a group of these bastards while we were on the way to a gun show in topeka.

that said i had a strong urge to "lose control of my vehicle"



In retrospect don't ya wish you would have just kept your mouth shut

HONESTLY officer....I had no idea what was about to happen . The crazy bitch just started shooting. I bailed out of the car and let her have it. I do wish I would have had the presense of mind to stear the car clear of the crowd before I jumped
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