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Posted: 10/13/2004 11:06:13 AM EST
Rebecca Peters quote from "The Gun Debate" with Wayne LaPierre.




Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:07:32 AM EST
Hmmm.....wonder what protects and insures that we have democracy?
Could it be guns?
What a dumbass.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:07:38 AM EST
Until democracy decides that it wants to kill them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:09:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By wedge1082:
Until democracy decides that it wants to kill them.



+1, Democracy bad, literally means "rule of the mob"
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:11:24 AM EST

Rebecca Peters:

I don't know how many members the NRA has in Rwanda, in Somolia, in Uganda, in Bosnia, but IANSA has members in all of those countries. They know about genocide, they know about mass murder, they are saying what they need in their countries is not more guns, but less guns.




So why don't they ban guns in their countries and leave the US alone?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:11:25 AM EST
Oh Yes , I'll just stand in the middle of the fight going on around me and wait for someone with kind words to save me. I am so sick of the clucking sheep in this country.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:12:22 AM EST
IIRC, in 1934 Adolf Hitler was elected Chancellor of Germany ina plebiscite election with 90% of the vote.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:13:41 AM EST
Sounds like I do need guns. To protect myself, my family and my country from people like her.

That's actually kind of funny in a way. When lib/coms ask me why I need guns I always tell them it is to protect myself from liberals like them who would infringe on my rights and freedoms. "What? You'd shoot me...?" You bet your ass.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:13:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Rebecca Peters:

I don't know how many members the NRA has in Rwanda, in Somolia, in Uganda, in Bosnia, but IANSA has members in all of those countries. They know about genocide, they know about mass murder, they are saying what they need in their countries is not more guns, but less guns.




So why don't they ban guns in their countries and leave the US alone?




because the U.S. is supposedly supplying all the guns?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:14:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Rebecca Peters:

I don't know how many members the NRA has in Rwanda, in Somolia, in Uganda, in Bosnia, but IANSA has members in all of those countries. They know about genocide, they know about mass murder, they are saying what they need in their countries is not more guns, but less guns.




So why don't they ban guns in their countries and leave the US alone?




because the U.S. is supposedly supplying all the guns?



Since when is the US supplying Kalashnikovs to Uganda?
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:26:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Sounds like I do need guns. To protect myself, my family and my country from people like her.

That's actually kind of funny in a way. When lib/coms ask me why I need guns I always tell them it is to protect myself from liberals like them who would infringe on my rights and freedoms. "What? You'd shoot me...?" You bet your ass.



No, I'd shoot the illiterate, drug-addicted welfare m----y you'd sick on my ass. We all know how this sort of thing would unfold. Think LA in 1992. Eliteist libs in the media stir up a bunch of racial shit and then step back and allow the process to unfold. Dan Rather and Al Gore don't need guns.

Except for the RKBA, it would be a slam dunk.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:27:33 AM EST
I was thinking along the lines of protection FROM democracy.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:27:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Rebecca Peters:

I don't know how many members the NRA has in Rwanda, in Somolia, in Uganda, in Bosnia, but IANSA has members in all of those countries. They know about genocide, they know about mass murder, they are saying what they need in their countries is not more guns, but less guns.




So why don't they ban guns in their countries and leave the US alone?



The simple answer is that social crusaders aren't content unless everyone else heed them some attention & follows whatever they say. She doesn't want to acknowledge the fact the places like Rhwanda, Somalia, Uganda, & the like aren't even democracies in the 1st place. Funny: the NRA membership a represents a free nation, while IANSA membership represents, among others, 3rd-world dictatorships & warlord-controlled enclaves. Yet somehow, I am supposed to believe that IANSA & its membership have a better take on how countries should conduct their internal affairs.

Go figure.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:33:43 AM EST
In her closing statement, she mentioned mass human rights abuse ..

Wayne should have said in his followup (maybe he does, I'm listening to it now):
These human rights abuses and massacres are done by GOVERNMENTS .. to whom we gladly sell armament
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 11:36:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Rebecca Peters:

I don't know how many members the NRA has in Rwanda, in Somolia, in Uganda, in Bosnia, but IANSA has members in all of those countries. They know about genocide, they know about mass murder, they are saying what they need in their countries is not more guns, but less guns.




So why don't they ban guns in their countries and leave the US alone?



The simple answer is that social crusaders aren't content unless everyone else heed them some attention & follows whatever they say. She doesn't want to acknowledge the fact the places like Rhwanda, Somalia, Uganda, & the like aren't even democracies in the 1st place. Funny: the NRA membership a represents a free nation, while IANSA membership represents, among others, 3rd-world dictatorships & warlord-controlled enclaves. Yet somehow, I am supposed to believe that IANSA & its membership have a better take on how countries should conduct their internal affairs.

Go figure.



It seems to me that the UN has devolved into an organization that is purely about maintaining control in the hands in which it currently sits. That is why they are so worked up about Iraq and Saddam Hussein. If it can happen to him, it can happen to them and that scares the hell out of them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:00:28 PM EST
That sounds good until the wrong guy cons his way into office, it also implies that non-gun owners have something to fear from gun owners. Like black people and all of those other kinds of low life..
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:09:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunplay:

Originally Posted By wedge1082:
Until democracy decides that it wants to kill them.



+1, Democracy bad, literally means "rule of the mob"



One of the biggest frauds spread by schools. Democracies are horrible ways to run government. Most people don't realize that we are a Republic were the Rule of Law is the law of the land, not the whims of the people.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:11:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:

Originally Posted By Gunplay:

Originally Posted By wedge1082:
Until democracy decides that it wants to kill them.



+1, Democracy bad, literally means "rule of the mob"



One of the biggest frauds spread by schools. Democracies are horrible ways to run government. Most people don't realize that we are a Republic were the Rule of Law is the law of the land, not the whims of the people.



I am amazed that they can get away with it when the Pledge of Allegiance is said every morning.

...And to the Republic for which it stands...

Now lets learn about how great the democracy that we live in is.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:15:12 PM EST
Sounds like she remembers hearing; "Make love not war" some where years ago.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:16:50 PM EST
The simple fact is that a gun in the hands of a Citizen is that Citizens ulitimate "NO!" to any government action upon that Citizen.

While the result of government intrusion may include the death of that Citizen, it still places that "final choice" in somone's hands other than the government (and will most likely result in several less government Functionaries in the process).

This is something that socialists/Communists and all those that will not accecpt the idea of true freedom of the individual cannot allow to take place. The State must be in control and having individual Citizens with the power to say "NO!" must be overcome at all costs for they know that it doesn't take many Citizens with the power to say "NO!" to throw their carefully crafted plans into chaos. Those first ones that resist government power may die, but it won't take long for the sheeple-at-large to get the idea that they may be next, thereby tipping the ballance of power, or at least destroying the carefully crafted lie of "We're from the government and we're here to help you."
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 12:35:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
because the U.S. is supposedly supplying all the guns?



Actually, these days, a lot of the guns are going the other direction. Many of the former Communist block countries are dumping their small arms (Mosins, SKSs, CZ-52s, Tokarovs, Makarovs, etc.) for cash, and most of these arms are going to America.
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 1:00:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/13/2004 1:01:27 PM EST by magnum_99]
I've watched just about all of this and my head is ready to explode.


Peters is a fucking polyanna who wants global communism.

She obviously doesn't understand the American psyche and our dedication to freedom,as well as our willingness to fight in its name and defend ourselves from tyranny.

She is an obvious American hater. She hates our culture, our way of life, and our love for INDIVIDUAL freedom.

She, and types like her, inluding those who are US citizens, are the ENEMY. They are not deserving of a "debate" on the issue, for any debate with them will only lead to capitulation, in some form, to their cause.

We should be prepared to take whatever means necessary to deal with these destructive ideas and the individuals who seek to enslave us with them--by politics, or any other means.
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