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Posted: 10/5/2004 7:54:12 PM EDT

Is this the line from the debates this year?

I think that this one ranks up there with "I knew Jack Kennedy, you are no Jack Kennedy".

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:02:04 PM EDT

[#1]

The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid to realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:03:11 PM EDT

[#2]

I voted twice in this poll

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:04:18 PM EDT

[#3]

Edwards is a loser

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:04:40 PM EDT

[#4]

Little Eddie never recovered from that.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:07:38 PM EDT

[#5]

I liked Cheney's trenchant observation that both Kerry and Edwards voted to deny funding our troops in combat out of political calculation, in the face of anti-war Howard Dean taking the lead in the primaries.

"If you couldn't stand up to Howard Dean, how will you stand up to al-Qaeda?"

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:09:49 PM EDT

[#6]

And with respect to this particular operation, we've seen a situation in
which, first, they voted to commit the troops, to send them to war, John
Edwards and John Kerry, then they came back and when the question was
whether or not you provide them with the resources they needed -- body
armor, spare parts, ammunition -- they voted against it.

I couldn't figure out why that happened initially. And then I looked and
figured out that what was happening was Howard Dean was making major
progress in the Democratic primaries, running away with the primaries based
on an anti-war record. So they, in effect, decided they would cast an
anti-war vote and they voted against the troops.

Now if they couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented,
how can we expect them to stand up to al Qaeda?

The end of that is THE quote from the debate, IMO.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:10:40 PM EDT

[#7]

OWNED!

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:10:54 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
I liked Cheney's trenchant observation that both Kerry and Edwards voted to deny funding our troops in combat out of political calculation, in the face of anti-war Howard Dean taking the lead in the primaries.

"If you couldn't stand up to Howard Dean, how will you stand up to al-Qaeda?"

That was a brilliant jab.

However, much like Bush failed to do last week, Edwards didn't fight back forcefully enough with the line about sending our troops into the war without all that shit in the first place. He briefly mentioned it, but only in passing.

Whether it was true or not wouldn't matter. Countering with that point would have scored big with the dummies who don't think for themselves.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:12:54 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid too realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Fixed it for you.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:16:09 PM EDT

[#10]

Ouch.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:18:30 PM EDT

[#11]

"The reason they keep trying to attack Halliburton is because they want to obscure their own record.

And Senator, frankly, you have a record in the Senate that's not very distinguished. You've missed 33 out of 36 meetings in the Judiciary Committee, almost 70 percent of the meetings of the Intelligence Committee.

You've missed a lot of key votes: on tax policy, on energy, on Medicare reform.

Your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you Senator Gone. You've got one of the worst attendance records in the United States Senate.

Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."

"...the suicide bombers, in part, were generated by Saddam Hussein, who paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers.

I personally think one of the reasons that we don't have as many suicide attacks today in Israel as we've had in the past is because Saddam is no longer in business."

"...we've seen a situation in which, first, they voted to commit the troops, to send them to war, John Edwards and John Kerry, then they came back and when the question was whether or not you provide them with the resources they needed — body armor, spare parts, ammunition — they voted against it.

I couldn't figure out why that happened initially. And then I looked and figured out that what was happening was Howard Dean was making major progress in the Democratic primaries, running away with the primaries based on an anti-war record. So they, in effect, decided they would cast an anti-war vote and they voted against the troops. Now if they couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented, how can we expect them to stand up to Al Qaida?"

"It's hard, after John Kerry referred to our allies as a coalition of the coerced and the bribed, to go out and persuade people to send troops and to participate in this process.

You end up with a situation in which — talk about demeaning. In effect, you demean the sacrifice of our allies when you say it's the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, and oh, by the way, send troops.

Makes no sense at all. It's totally inconsistent. There isn't a plan there."

"Your rhetoric, Senator, would be a lot more credible if there was a record to back it up. There isn't."

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:23:33 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I liked Cheney's trenchant observation that both Kerry and Edwards voted to deny funding our troops in combat out of political calculation, in the face of anti-war Howard Dean taking the lead in the primaries.

"If you couldn't stand up to Howard Dean, how will you stand up to al-Qaeda?"

Good post--I had to look up "trenchant"--you astute ones always keep me on my toes.

One entry found for trenchant.

Main Entry: tren·chant
Pronunciation: -ch&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, present participle of trenchier
1 : KEEN, SHARP
2 : vigorously effective and articulate <a trenchant analysis>; also : CAUSTIC <trenchant remarks>
3 a : sharply perceptive : PENETRATING b : CLEAR-CUT, DISTINCT <the trenchant divisions between right and wrong -- Edith Wharton>
- tren·chant·ly adverb

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:33:18 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg

Being in close proximity doesn't mean that they met.

He didn't say I'd never seen you or I'd never been in the same room as you.

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:33:37 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Ouch.

A picture of the two standing back to back does not a "meeting" make.........

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:44:32 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid too realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Fixed it for you.

What's the matter, nobody typed flash hider in the past hour?

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:46:54 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

And with respect to this particular operation, we've seen a situation in
which, first, they voted to commit the troops, to send them to war, John
Edwards and John Kerry, then they came back and when the question was
whether or not you provide them with the resources they needed -- body
armor, spare parts, ammunition -- they voted against it.

I couldn't figure out why that happened initially. And then I looked and
figured out that what was happening was Howard Dean was making major
progress in the Democratic primaries, running away with the primaries based
on an anti-war record. So they, in effect, decided they would cast an
anti-war vote and they voted against the troops.

Now if they couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented,
how can we expect them to stand up to al Qaeda?

The end of that is THE quote from the debate, IMO.

+1000

Posted: 10/5/2004 8:53:16 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg

Looks like Edwards walked past Cheney. I walked by a LOT of people today and never met any of them.

Posted: 10/5/2004 9:01:39 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg

Ouch my ass. I've stood right next to Ed Avila. He served me lunch. We've never met.

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:33:59 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid too realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Fixed it for you.

What's the matter, nobody typed flash hider in the past hour?

Just killing time in the interim. Misapplied terms and bad spelling must be okay, huh?

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:39:38 PM EDT

[#20]

If Jimmy Carter and the Lucky Charms Guy were to breed, you'd get something that looked and sounded like Edwards.

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:41:09 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg

Ouch my ass. I've stood right next to Ed Avila. He served me lunch. We've never met.

'zactly!!!!

I just say, "depends on what your definition of "met" is"

Gets the libs all worked up.

-LS (posting w/one hand while logged in as LL and feeding baby LS)

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:42:39 PM EDT

[#22]

It was a falsehood since there is video tape of them meeting, and they had met a total of three times in the three years prior. Whether true or false, it dealt a powerful blow.

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:48:18 PM EDT

[#23]

DEBUNKED!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134589,00.html

On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event.

On April 8, 2001, Cheney and Edwards shook hands when they met off-camera during a taping of NBC's "Meet the Press," moderator Tim Russert said Wednesday on "Today."

On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator, Edwards aides also said.

Edwards didn't forget their prayer-breakfast meeting. The Democratic vice presidential candidate noted the discrepancy at a post-debate rally in a Cleveland park, calling it an example of Cheney "still not being straight with the American people."

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:49:37 PM EDT

[#24]

I loved the statement. Although not technically true it had a great sting. When anyone brings up the prior meeting if I were Cheney I would say something along the lines of this.

I guess that i made a better impression on your wife than you did for me. Maybe it is my hair.

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:51:48 PM EDT

[#25]

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:52:48 PM EDT

[#26]

It dealt very little... funny, nobody at the office mentioned it today and we have cable feeds, the newswire, satellite radio... all the toys in the office. Nobody thought it was a big deal because all of the underlying facts that led up to it are true. His hometown paper DID refer to him as Senator GONE... he has a piss poor attendance record, he missed key votes, he missed judiciary meetings... he is a freshman seminar that has nothing to show for six years in office and his own state wouldn;t re-elect him to the Senate.

I think anybody with the slightest common sense understands Cheney was implying Edwards has been AWOL in the Senate. Hell, I shook Cheney's hand once. If he were to say he never met me, it would technically be a lie.

Let's look at when he did meet Edwards... 2001 at a prayer breakfast... 3 and 1/2 years ago. Back stage in passing at Tim Russert's show. When Elizabeth Dole took her oath that Cheney administered. Sitting Senator... President of the Senate for four years... never run into each other in the Senate chamber? If anybody does raise the issue in conversation you have more than enough to run with.

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:53:43 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
DEBUNKED!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134589,00.html

On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event.

On April 8, 2001, Cheney and Edwards shook hands when they met off-camera during a taping of NBC's "Meet the Press," moderator Tim Russert said Wednesday on "Today."

On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator, Edwards aides also said.

Edwards didn't forget their prayer-breakfast meeting. The Democratic vice presidential candidate noted the discrepancy at a post-debate rally in a Cleveland park, calling it an example of Cheney "still not being straight with the American people."

Welcome Mr. DUh

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:55:13 PM EDT

[#28]

How many of these so called meetings did Edwards recall and counter with during the deabte?

Answer ZERO.

Momentous meetings they must have been eh?

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:55:16 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg

What's with the dipshits that post that pic prefaced with 'ouch', 'oops', 'oopsie' & 'uh-oh'? Snide little twerps that think it debunks everything? Or unable to argue their position and that's all they've got?

Posted: 10/6/2004 3:59:51 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
How many of these so called meetings did Edwards recall and counter with during the deabte?

Answer ZERO.

Momentous meetings they must have been eh?

Exactly...

Posted: 10/6/2004 4:03:58 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid too realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Fixed it for you.

Wrong. You actually made it worse, genius. It should be "too stupid to realize". Don't quit your day job.

Posted: 10/6/2004 4:21:55 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Ouch.

blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/Cheney-Edwards.jpg
What's with the dipshits that post that pic prefaced with 'ouch', 'oops', 'oopsie' & 'uh-oh'? Snide little twerps that think it debunks everything? Or unable to argue their position and that's all they've got?

Comments like that portray yourself exactly as our enemy sees us. While occasionaly snide, neither little nor twerp accurately describe me. I don't think it 'debunks' anything. I was merely presenting ammo that they could potentially run with. It WAS a great comment that had me rolling.

Seeing that picture shortly thereafter made me think, "Ouch", regardless of whether or not they'd shaken hands and exchanged pleasantries. The picture alone after his comments makes our man look like one who tends to stretch the truth. Not good. Ouch.

Posted: 10/6/2004 7:04:11 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is after the debate Edwards was giving a speech and saying the Vice-President had met him twice. Edwards apparently is to stupid too realize that only makes it worse implying Edwards is not memorable.

Fixed it for you.

Wrong. You actually made it worse, genius. It should be "too stupid to realize". Don't quit your day job.

You bitch about me correcting people then do the same thing. Hypocrite.