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Posted: 9/1/2004 1:33:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 1:45:03 PM EST by Cape_hunter]
Was the question I was asked a this afternoon by a co-worker.

While the debate ran for a few minutes and things like "why are guns so important?" and "How can you not have a right to drive but have a right to keep arms" were thrown at me, the real intent of the question was clear, It was trap!. I was being lured into saying that the only issue important to me was guns. Clever girl!

What would your answer to the question be?

BTW: I replied, "No but the right to keep and bear arms is important to everyone, not just gun owners."

CH

Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:33:40 PM EST
No I'm a Republican because I'm not IGNORANT
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:35:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 1:36:06 PM EST by innocent_bystander]
No.....I'm a Libertarian.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:38:43 PM EST
I'm not a Republican.

And in answer to her question, the US constitution guarantees me a right to own firearms. It does not guarantee me a right to drive a car!
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:39:48 PM EST
Im for whichever party that will protect our most important amendment. If that makes me a single issue voter, I'm fine with that. I know I'm voting for the issue that will protect this country from itself, in the long run.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:41:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By SO-COM:
Im for whichever party that will protect our most important amendment. If that makes me a single issue voter, I'm fine with that. I know I'm voting for the issue that will protect this country from itself, in the long run.



Agreed.

Simple answer, yes. I'm republican becuase thats the party that doesnt want to take my guns and (more of) my money!
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:41:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
I'm not a Republican.

And in answer to her question, the US constitution guarantees me a right to own firearms. It does not guarantee me a right to drive a car!

+1
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:43:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
And in answer to her question, the US constitution guarantees me a right to own firearms. It does not guarantee me a right to drive a car!



...and before she throws the "cars weren't invented yet" BS line at you, remind her that the Constitution doesn't guarantee you the right to a horse, either....
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:45:44 PM EST
The car vs. guns arguement is absolutely retarded. Here is why:

You do not need a driver's license to drive. You need one to drive on public roads. It is perfectly legal for an unlicensed driver to drive on their own property, or on someone else's property if you have permission. The same is true for guns. You can shoot on your own property or other's if they say you can, and you can shoot on public property if the government says you can (hunting, etc). You CAN'T go to downtown cincinnati and set up a range.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:45:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 1:46:14 PM EST by the]

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Was the question I was just asked a this afternoon by a co-worker.

While the debate ran for a few minutes and things like "why are guns so important?" and "How can you not have a right to drive but have a right to keep arms" were thrown at me, the real intent of the question was clear, It was trap!. I was being lured into saying that the only issue important to me was guns. Clever girl!

What would your answer to the question be?





IRENE!!
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:50:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By SO-COM:
Im for whichever party that will protect our most important amendment. If that makes me a single issue voter, I'm fine with that. I know I'm voting for the issue that will protect this country from itself, in the long run.



+1. Somebody asked me last night "How do you vote?" I replied "I vote on one issue: my guns. As long as we have those, everything can be sorted out if need be."
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:54:10 PM EST
How about, "No, not really. I just can't find anything Kerry has ever done that was worth a flying fvck at a rolling donut". Then let the fur fly.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:54:53 PM EST

Are you a republican because of your interest in guns?


Yes.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 1:58:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 1:59:36 PM EST by Alien]
I've always had Republicanish ideals. My father is a moderate democrat (firmly believes in 2nd ammendment though) and my mother is a Republican. They weren't necessarily the influence that made me see things the way I do today though. I've figured things out for myself. It just so happens that most Republicans see things the way I do, so, I consider myself a Republican. I'm not a one issue voter, but 2nd ammendment issues are the biggest issues with me.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 2:56:33 PM EST
When people call me a Republican, I always correct them by saying I'm a conservative which isn't necessarily the same thing. Being a conservative obviously excludes me from being a Democrat and there are NO viable third parties so therefore I vote Republican 99% of the time.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 3:00:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Greenhorn:
The car vs. guns arguement is absolutely retarded. Here is why:

You do not need a driver's license to drive. You need one to drive on public roads. It is perfectly legal for an unlicensed driver to drive on their own property, or on someone else's property if you have permission. The same is true for guns. You can shoot on your own property or other's if they say you can, and you can shoot on public property if the government says you can (hunting, etc). You CAN'T go to downtown cincinnati and set up a range.



Good clarification there. +1
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 3:25:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2004 3:26:04 PM EST by DWFAN]
I think that all politicians are crooks, regardless of what party they represent.

Whoever will protect the 2nd Ammendment will recieve my vote.

Without the 2nd, all the others instantly disappear.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 3:37:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Was the question I was asked a this afternoon by a co-worker.

While the debate ran for a few minutes and things like "why are guns so important?" and "How can you not have a right to drive but have a right to keep arms" were thrown at me, the real intent of the question was clear, It was trap!. I was being lured into saying that the only issue important to me was guns. Clever girl!

What would your answer to the question be?

BTW: I replied, "No but the right to keep and bear arms is important to everyone, not just gun owners."

CH




Clever . . . but would you hit it?

I am currently a Libertarian but I will be voting Republican on the presidentail ticket.

Guns are one reason. But in general, less government, less taxes, more economic freedom, freedom of speech (particularly political speech, which the Dems attack via "campaign finance reform") and a less intrusive government are what motivate me.

The only areas where I tend to disagree with the Republicans are things like drugs and porn, but in these areas the Democrats are not much better and they are not as important issues for me. For example, the porn issue might touch on freedom of speech, but not as importantly as campaign finance reform, which attacks political speech, and goes to the very heart of the freedom of speech mentioned in the 1st Amendment.

Link Posted: 9/1/2004 3:40:04 PM EST
I have learned here in the PR of MA never to discuss politics with people who are not close friends, esp. co-workers and neighbors. There's a reason why God invented spectator sports- something inoffensive and bland to talk about around the water cooler, so that I did not have to listen to morons go on about their politics, and they couldn't use mine against me at layoff or promotion time. BTDT.....

"Say, it's good old....you again. Now, how about that local sports team, eh?"
- --C. MONTGOMERY BURNS
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:07:32 PM EST
Arms are necessary for freedom.

The Republicans are pro freedsom, and somewhat pro-gun.

The Democrats are socialists (Communists in disguise). MANY years ago used to be more moderate, but they were taken over by hippies after 1968. They have steadily gotten farther and farther to the left, while trying to paint Republicans as extremists.

Democrats have long known they can't force their policies down the throats of freedom loving people. Those people will resist, especially those that are armed.

It's a no-brainer.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:11:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By DonS:

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Was the question I was asked a this afternoon by a co-worker.

While the debate ran for a few minutes and things like "why are guns so important?" and "How can you not have a right to drive but have a right to keep arms" were thrown at me, the real intent of the question was clear, It was trap!. I was being lured into saying that the only issue important to me was guns. Clever girl!

What would your answer to the question be?

BTW: I replied, "No but the right to keep and bear arms is important to everyone, not just gun owners."

CH




Clever . . . but would you hit it?

I am currently a Libertarian but I will be voting Republican on the presidentail ticket.

Guns are one reason. But in general, less government, less taxes, more economic freedom, freedom of speech (particularly political speech, which the Dems attack via "campaign finance reform") and a less intrusive government are what motivate me.

The only areas where I tend to disagree with the Republicans are things like drugs and porn, but in these areas the Democrats are not much better and they are not as important issues for me. For example, the porn issue might touch on freedom of speech, but not as importantly as campaign finance reform, which attacks political speech, and goes to the very heart of the freedom of speech mentioned in the 1st Amendment.




Not hitting that unless it was a with a 2x4. Even that might not knock the homly-ness off her face!

You heard the one about falling out of the ugly tree and hitting ever branch on the way day? Well think old growth!
CH
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:13:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
No I'm a Republican because I'm not IGNORANT



+1
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:13:13 PM EST
i was a Republican long before i was interested in guns.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:25:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
No.....I'm a Libertarian.



+1
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:27:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar50troll:
No I'm a Republican because I'm not IGNORANT



That sums it up for me.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:33:51 PM EST
If there was a pro gun alternative canidate to either of the two dickheads running for president now I'd vote for him. There isn't, so the lesser of two evils, Bush, gets my vote.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:38:46 PM EST
It is one of the "Corner Stones" of why I am and vote Republican.

I think that is is the main reason the John and John have not pushed gun control is they are afraid or what would happen if they put gun control back on the table.

I know, that we all know what we are in for if the get the two johns.....

Rant off,

Badredfish
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:41:08 PM EST
yes i would say that is correct. my rights is the main reason i vote for i vote for. the right to bear arms is # 1 on my list. Ronald
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:43:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
What would your answer to the question be?

"Are you automatically a Whore because you have a vagina?"

Followed by 'I'm not a Republican, you stupid bitch."

Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:44:55 PM EST
I'm a Republican because if you are a Democrat something is morally fucked up with you.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 4:50:22 PM EST
No. I am a Republican that votes strictly from a Pro Gun stance. Period.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:06:19 PM EST
1) 2nd Ammendment rights are important to me.
2) I like to keep my own money.

Those are the main reasons I vote Republican.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:40:32 PM EST
That is one of the major reasons why, but not the only one.
Link Posted: 9/1/2004 6:46:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By twistedcomrade:
If there was a pro gun alternative canidate to either of the two dickheads running for president now I'd vote for him. There isn't, so the lesser of two evils, Bush, gets my vote.



+1
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