an AR 15 to the rescue during a business invasion by thugs

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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:15:07 PM EDT

If this is a dupe, my apologies. Detroit tax preparer is robbed in broad daylight and someone inside returns fire with AR to save the day.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/21202112/wild-shootout-at-inkster-tax-business-caught-on-camera

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:19:58 PM EDT

[#1]

Impossible! You cannot use and AR 15 to defend yourself. The liberals told me so. Oh, and the security guards had a sweet ride. You see the "concealed weapon permit" badge on the side?

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:21:06 PM EDT

[#2]

How stupid would you have to be to think that a tax preparer would have enough cash on hand to be worth robbing?

If I wanted to rob somebody, I'd rob a used car lot. It has a greater chance of having large amounts of cash on hand than most any other kind of business.

There are always some people who buy cars with cash.

That security guard needs to work on his high intensity close quarters drills. He missed.

CJ

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:21:38 PM EDT

[#3]

But I thought that CA police chief said that guns are only offensive weapons. Seems that he was wrong, dead wrong.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:23:42 PM EDT

[#4]

I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:25:44 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives. deny facts and plug their ears.

FIFY

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:28:05 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives.

indeed.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:28:23 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives. deny facts and plug their ears.

FIFY

/thread

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:29:12 PM EDT

[#8]

BAN all tax offices, they encourage gun violence

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:30:43 PM EDT

[#9]

Is that a short barreled rifle the security guard had?

jonblack

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:33:15 PM EDT

[#10]

Who robs a tax prep business? This story will get squashed down into a deep dark corner and made to go away.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:35:44 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

Who robs a tax prep business? This story will get squashed down into a deep dark corner and made to go away.

Criminals aren't known for being brilliant....

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:37:22 PM EDT

[#12]

Did he get hit or roll his ankle?

Looked like a pistol AR.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:38:54 PM EDT

[#13]

I thought the same thing.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:40:07 PM EDT

[#14]

I'd rather live in Hell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inkster,_Michigan

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:40:17 PM EDT

[#15]

Not only an AR but NFA? Hard to see in the vid but looked like an SBR?

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:41:39 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Is that a short barreled rifle the security guard had?

jonblack

I was wondering the same thing. That truck was damn nice for a security guard company truck. I could imagine them having an extra $200 for a tax stamp.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:42:21 PM EDT

[#17]

Holy crap!!! Looks like he was hit in leg before he ran to door, and didn't realize until his leg gave.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:45:55 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
How stupid would you have to be to think that a tax preparer would have enough cash on hand to be worth robbing?

If I wanted to rob somebody, I'd rob a used car lot. It has a greater chance of having large amounts of cash on hand than most any other kind of business.

CJ

I'm guessing they probably had a significant amount of cash on hand. That's why they had a security guard with a carbine close to hand. That didn't look like H&R block to me, it is being run out of a residential home in a bad neighborhood. I'm guessing they do you taxes and give you cash on the spot in exchange for your refund. Like a "payday loan".

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:46:21 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Did he get hit or roll his ankle?

Looked like a pistol AR.

The story says the guard was wounded in the upper thigh... wasn't clear if he was shot or not

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:46:36 PM EDT

[#20]

Ban AR-15's....Do it for the criminals.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:49:44 PM EDT

[#21]

Questions being asked in this thread....

Why would someone rob a tax prep business?

Well Im thinking they are giving loans on their tax returns, with a fee of course. So go get your taxes prepared and walk out with cash in a couple of days after submission of tax forms and some other verification.

One clue for me is they had a security guard there with an AR.. think about it.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:53:59 PM EDT

[#22]

Good on the tax ninja for trying, but he needs to get out to the range a little more.

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:57:19 PM EDT

[#23]

An AR-15 Surprise!

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

Posted: 2/14/2013 6:58:46 PM EDT

[#24]

Dude is probably a pimp and "tax preparer" when that's in season. Good way to launder that money, yo!

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:03:37 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives. deny facts and plug their ears.

FIFY

It is funny because you know it will be true. In the words of Rep Corrine Brown, "Don't confuse me with any facts."

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:05:27 PM EDT

[#26]

Wonder what kinna penetration he got thru the dry wall?

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:06:44 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
BAN all tax offices, they encourage gun violence

Fuck that. Ban all businesses, they can be robbed!

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:06:55 PM EDT

[#28]

Its pretty common in detroit to have your taxes prepared, and then take a loan at high interest for cash from the preparers. Tax time be FSA christmas. They get about $4,000 of your dollars a piece in refunds on money they never paid in the first place. You guys are cool with that right?

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:06:56 PM EDT

[#29]

The business owner was sitting in a chair against the wall.

Wolverines!

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:07:12 PM EDT

[#30]

More range time, my man... you drove em off, but they should have been leakin'

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:08:28 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
Ban AR-15's....Do it for the criminals.

That would be the only reason to do it which makes me associate the criminals with those that want to ban them. The security guard did not have the AR-15 in hand which is why he was probably so frantic, but he should of been more prepared since that place dosn't look like it's anywhere near a decent neighborhood.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:10:20 PM EDT

[#32]

Can't believe nobody caught the shield on the security truck. Oh my.... Hahaha

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:10:23 PM EDT

[#33]

Was he wearing a plate carrier?

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:11:04 PM EDT

[#34]

Wow. I live just west of Inkster. It's a real shit town.....which is why, as a "good neighbor," I own several AR's.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:13:04 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
More range time, my man... you drove em off, but they should have been leakin'

Yeah practice on a one way static range really prepares you for a two way range with dynamically moving targets. He never had a legal shot with a high hit probability. He also closed the distance to guard the door very fast even though he was shot going for his gun in the first place.

I'd hire him for just about any security position. He did a good job, and did not go full retard and shoot them as they fled.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:13:22 PM EDT

[#36]

Its funny how these articles never seem to make the national news

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:14:46 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

If I wanted to rob somebody, I'd rob a used car lot.

Medical Marijuana clinics. Way more cash. We find u-haul moving boxes full of cash in those places. so much cash that space to store it all becomes an issue (they dont use banks).

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:16:13 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
Wonder what kinna penetration he got thru the dry wall?

Tested it for SWAT years ago. The answer is "Depends"

You'd be surprised how little it penetrates if hitting studs or wiring. Also, penetrates pretty well with little deformation hitting only drywall.

Then again, there were some rounds that hit ONLY drywall and the nose bent and sent if flying way off course.

Bullets.....they don't always do what you think they'll do.. And odds are you'll need more then you think in a real fight.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:17:16 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
How stupid would you have to be to think that a tax preparer would have enough cash on hand to be worth robbing?

CJ

Don't worry gun control will make us safer. These people will comply.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:17:45 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:
I have a few Liberal friends that will be just beside themselves. Now their arguments need to change because there were multiple well armed assailants and the use of a superior tool saved lives.

Seriously dude? Liberal friends. Tsk tsk.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:18:36 PM EDT

[#41]

Or they were identity thieves.

Think about it. Your tax forms and supporting docs have all your essential info: name, address, SSN, bank routing account number, investment numbers, etc.

Hmm. Okay. Maybe I'm over-assigning credit.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:20:46 PM EDT

[#42]

What is goin on? This is probably the third time in 3 weeks I've read about armed people standing up to criminals in Detroit?

How are these criminals going to pay the bills with all these armed good guys kicking ass and taking names?!?

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:21:18 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
Not only an AR but NFA? Hard to see in the vid but looked like an SBR?

Can't be. SBRs are illegal in MI.

Posted: 2/14/2013 7:22:48 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
More range time, my man... you drove em off, but they should have been leakin'

Yeah practice on a one way static range really prepares you for a two way range with dynamically moving targets. He never had a legal shot with a high hit probability. He also closed the distance to guard the door very fast even though he was shot going for his gun in the first place.

I'd hire him for just about any security position. He did a good job, and did not go full retard and shoot them as they fled.

Ummm... what? I'd say any shot taken at those bad guys in the video would have been legal. They rolled in, busted caps, and ran out the door while pointing guns at him the entire time.

You can shoot them while they're running away if they're pointing a weapon at you.

That situation was 100%, according-to-Hoyle, green-light, fo time. Period. Full stop. End of line.

ETA: I'm talking about inside the house. By the time the guard got to the door, the perps had already split up, and were out of view.