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CHL
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:26:42 PM EST
Prime has been getting worse over the years.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:27:31 PM EST
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:28:16 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By netstorm: Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items.  I've ordered paper, toner and envelopes I didn't need to get a something like a set of nail clippers
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:28:44 PM EST
well, it was nice while it lasted
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:29:50 PM EST
I have a feeling Prime is about to be fucking worthless for those of us unfortunate to be stationed overseas.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:30:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
http://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-is-about-to-get-worse-1727772444 so some merchants are going to restrict their prime shipping, presumably to their state or adjoining states. So when you see something listed as "prime" you may not be getting shit in North Dakota I assumed they already did that, and that's why some things were "Prime" and other's weren't. You can only win in business by taking losses for so long. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:30:28 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By netstorm:
Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items. I haven't seen that at all. In my area, prime has been fantastic - especially with the Prime Now service. 1 hour delivery for $7.99 or 2 hour delivery free. They do ask that you leave a tip, but you have up to 48 hours AFTER the delivery to tip on the service you received from the driver. You get a text when he's on his way with his current location and a text when it's delivered. placed an order Saturday night, had it Sunday morning at 9AM. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:32:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
http://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-is-about-to-get-worse-1727772444 so some merchants are going to restrict their prime shipping, presumably to their state or adjoining states. So when you see something listed as "prime" you may not be getting shit in North Dakota The reason I got Prime was because in Colorado regular amazon takes ages in the winter. Their "free shipping" sometimes took 1.5 weeks. I'm guessing that it was too good to last, my Prime shit still takes two days to get here, but they're sometimes taking a day or two to ship it from their warehouse. I've gone from buying 2/3 of my shit from amazon, to a few high dollar items (mostly camera gear). |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:32:20 PM EST
Meh, not gonna get worked up about this.
Still infinitely better than actually going to the store
So basically, if a merchant in Florida doesn’t want to two-day ship west of the Mississippi, or a merchant in New York doesn’t want to ship to the west coast, they don’t have to. And that means that some of the merchandise that’ll pop up as Prime eligible won’t offer two-day shipping.
Now, objectively, this is fine. It’s fine! The idea that I can diddle around on my laptop and purchase a novelty t-shirt from Oregon and I assume that it should appear on my Brooklyn doorstep in 48 hours is ludicrous from the start. Shipping will still be free with a Prime subscription, just slower in some cases. The advantages of having a Prime membership remain robust, since this only applies to certain merchandise sold by certain sellers. But Amazon has thoroughly warped my sense of shipping logistics to the point where reigning in Amazon Prime benefits for the ease of the sellers is OUTRAGEOUS to a dumb corner of my brain. Amazon did this to me. It plied me with promises of unlimited budget-friendly goods e-ordered and miraculously scuttled to my home. To go back on the shiny dream of improbably quick shipments on demand is to go back on what makes Amazon great! |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:34:29 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
the add on stuff drives me irrationally nuts I've ordered paper, toner and envelopes I didn't need to get a something like a set of nail clippers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By netstorm:
Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items. I've ordered paper, toner and envelopes I didn't need to get a something like a set of nail clippers Worse is when you intentionally check the filter to the left to "not show adons" and they are still on the results. Very obnoxious to the point of yelling at my monitor which doesn't understand insane, sleepy guy ranting. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:35:20 PM EST
and I'll continue to use walmart.com for a lot of the same things, take advantage of free shipping, and get it faster than Amazon.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:37:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 3:37:17 PM EST by Laramie]
Did they change shipping costs for certain items?
A few weeks ago I ordered a dog crate. Nothing outrageously big/heavy, but the box was probably 5"x26"x38" and 30lb. During checkout, 2 day shipping which is normally free was listed as $13.99. This WAS a prime eligible item. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:37:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
http://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-is-about-to-get-worse-1727772444 so some merchants are going to restrict their prime shipping, presumably to their state or adjoining states. So when you see something listed as "prime" you may not be getting shit in North Dakota That's interesting, because it's my understanding there's a large Amazon office up in either Grand Forks or Fargo. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:38:27 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
the add on stuff drives me irrationally nuts I've ordered paper, toner and envelopes I didn't need to get a something like a set of nail clippers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By netstorm:
Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items. I've ordered paper, toner and envelopes I didn't need to get a something like a set of nail clippers There must be some diabolical, asshole, mathematician that wrote them a script that sets prices. You can always get to the nearest dollar, but not close enough. Spend another $5. Dick! 
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:38:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 3:39:33 PM EST by Aimless]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rkobalt: and I'll continue to use walmart.com for a lot of the same things, take advantage of free shipping, and get it faster than Amazon. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:38:53 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Laramie:
Did they change shipping costs for certain items? A few weeks ago I ordered a dog crate. Nothing outrageously big/heavy, but the box was probably 5"x26"x38" and 30lb. During checkout, 2 day shipping which is normally free was listed as $13.99. This WAS a prime eligible item. Yes, got a second Soma Juice frame for my gf and Prime shipping was 9.99. Still not bad for a huge bike frame. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:39:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 3:40:40 PM EST by FDC]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne:
I have a feeling Prime is about to be fucking worthless for those of us unfortunate to be stationed overseas. Never really got a great benefit out or it when stationed in Alaska. The best I was able to see was free shipping for Weathertech floorboards. The rest, I might as well have been in Italy again. If Afghanistan or Iraq, on major FOBs, it was the same as before Prime. Reliable packages within a few weeks. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:40:11 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
I assumed they already did that, and that's why some things were "Prime" and other's weren't. You can only win in business by taking losses for so long. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
http://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-is-about-to-get-worse-1727772444 so some merchants are going to restrict their prime shipping, presumably to their state or adjoining states. So when you see something listed as "prime" you may not be getting shit in North Dakota I assumed they already did that, and that's why some things were "Prime" and other's weren't. You can only win in business by taking losses for so long. This |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:40:11 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
I once bought a bicycle that someone posted a link to here from wal mart. It was shipped to my house for free. It's some chinese pos, but how can they ship a bicycle to my house for free for $ 100? It's still in the box in the back of my garage five years later, probably rusted in to one imoveable piece Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By rkobalt:
and I'll continue to use walmart.com for a lot of the same things, take advantage of free shipping, and get it faster than Amazon. return it for being defective
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ND, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:40:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 3:42:04 PM EST by jeromejas]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DangerJ: That's interesting, because it's my understanding there's a large Amazon office up in either Grand Forks or Fargo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DangerJ: Originally Posted By Aimless: http://gizmodo.com/amazon-prime-is-about-to-get-worse-1727772444 so some merchants are going to restrict their prime shipping, presumably to their state or adjoining states. So when you see something listed as "prime" you may not be getting shit in North Dakota That's interesting, because it's my understanding there's a large Amazon office up in either Grand Forks or Fargo. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:41:58 PM EST
It's still been really good for me. I use their movies, storage and other free services too. I have no complaints until it gets worse than their competitors. They are laying off a lot of folks soon so, we'll see.
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:43:38 PM EST
I'm not surprised that the delivery end of Prime might be cut back at the same time as the online end of Prime expands.
$99/year is still a deal, I'll keep my membership until things clearly go south. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2015 3:53:49 PM EST
This isn't a restriction on prime as most of us know it, which are items fulfilled by amazon. It sounds like a restriction on a pilot program that allowed non FBA items to be marked as "prime shipping".
This is an expansion of prime by marking 3P items (probably based on your current location) as "prime" and allowing 3rd party vendors to ship regionally. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 4:19:50 PM EST
My Prime shipping has been taking at least 3 days from shipping so I complained repeatedly and got my Prime extended for months. Then they started shipping me the wrong items. I got tired of driving to a UPS drop off box to ship items back and wait for the correct item to be shipped, they told me to keep the incorrect items sometimes, but I basically told them to F%&k off.
Now my state has passed a law to tax all purchases from Amazon even though they have no physical presence in the state and Amazon has agreed to collect the tax starting October 1st. Not all online retailers will be collecting the tax so I will likely price items at Amazon and find other retailers who don't collect the tax or buy the items at Walmart. I'll likely save money not buying from Amazon. |
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Posted: 8/31/2015 4:24:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2015 4:26:21 PM EST by chmodx]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By netstorm:
Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items. This. They say it's available for prime shipping but takes 1-2 days to process. Gives then time to move it around, then 2 day shipping kicks in. I've had a number if orders miss prime estimated shipping lately as well. I think they've developed some kinks. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2015 4:34:54 PM EST
Has Amazon made a profit yet? I know their stock is doing fine but have they actually had a net profit yet?
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Posted: 9/1/2015 2:52:41 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
Has Amazon made a profit yet? I know their stock is doing fine but have they actually had a net profit yet? good question. I ordered a brand new CD last Friday and it shipped from back east somewhere., arrived via USPS on Sunday. no idea how the fuck they make money. but I'm not complaining yet. the cost of said CD? $4.95 free 2 day shipping included. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:04:33 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Chairborne:
I have a feeling Prime is about to be fucking worthless for those of us unfortunate to be stationed overseas. Unsure how it is in your neck of the woods but here it sucks giant blue donkey balls
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:17:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2015 3:18:17 AM EST by fla556guy]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stevem1a:
I'm not surprised that the delivery end of Prime might be cut back at the same time as the online end of Prime expands. $99/year is still a deal, I'll keep my membership until things clearly go south. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stevem1a:
I'm not surprised that the delivery end of Prime might be cut back at the same time as the online end of Prime expands. $99/year is still a deal, I'll keep my membership until things clearly go south. Not to mention all of the content I get for free, music and videos. I've started using the shit out of those. Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
Has Amazon made a profit yet? I know their stock is doing fine but have they actually had a net profit yet? Not really my problem. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:20:07 AM EST
I think here in Austin, a lot of shit comes out of DFW. I think they're trying to do some same-day stuff out of Austin.
I use the SHIT out of Amazon. I think in 2014 I had about 140 orders. I'd rather search for and order shit on Amazon than try to go find it locally. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:22:06 AM EST
The only reasons I still have it: $49 student prime, and diapers cheaper than the store.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:22:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2015 3:23:02 AM EST by fla556guy]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q:
I think here in Austin, a lot of shit comes out of DFW. I think they're trying to do some same-day stuff out of Austin. I use the SHIT out of Amazon. I think in 2014 I had about 140 orders. I'd rather search for and order shit on Amazon than try to go find it locally. Yep. I don't have time for limited selection, more drive time, more tax, more cost, and less competition unless I need it RFN. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:24:05 AM EST
The add on items are very annoying. A Butler Creek Objective size 09 is a 6.99 add on where a Butler Creek Objective size 01 for 6.99 is regular prime, seems like there is no rhyme or reason...
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:25:51 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By sharps54:
The add on items are very annoying. A Butler Creek Objective size 09 is a 6.99 add on where a Butler Creek Objective size 01 for 6.99 is regular prime, seems like there is no rhyme or reason... Size 01 probably doesn't sell that well. Size 9 probably does. So they pay to ship 01 and make profit off of 09 by saving on shipping. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:40:12 AM EST
Last time I ordered a bunch of stuff to have shipped to me in Afghanistan, they wouldn't ship half of it here. I ended up cancelling my order and ordering everything from Walmart.com.
You can't tell me they have a valid reason not to ship a pillow to an APO. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 3:46:57 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By fla556guy:
Size 01 probably doesn't sell that well. Size 9 probably does. So they pay to ship 01 and make profit off of 09 by saving on shipping. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fla556guy:
Originally Posted By sharps54:
The add on items are very annoying. A Butler Creek Objective size 09 is a 6.99 add on where a Butler Creek Objective size 01 for 6.99 is regular prime, seems like there is no rhyme or reason... Size 01 probably doesn't sell that well. Size 9 probably does. So they pay to ship 01 and make profit off of 09 by saving on shipping. That is true, I need one for my TA-33 and now I'm going to have to find some random crap to fill out an order. Oh well. My wife and I use the heck out of Amazon Instant Video on our Roku and I use Amazon music so we are still getting our money's worth, for now. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 4:03:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/1/2015 4:05:02 AM EST by glocke12]
as with most things, Amazon Prime started out as a great idea, and was for many years but not has turned to crap.
Prime movies/TV also..At first there were many things I could find to watch for free. Now the only things worth watching are the worst of the worst in terms of B grade movies. Honestly though I'd rather wait a little longer for stuff than go out to the store and spend an afternoon shopping for this shit. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 4:11:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By glocke12:
as with most things, Amazon Prime started out as a great idea, and was for many years but not has turned to crap. Prime movies/TV also..At first there were many things I could find to watch for free. Now the only things worth watching are the worst of the worst in terms of B grade movies. Honestly though I'd rather wait a little longer for stuff than go out to the store and spend an afternoon shopping for this shit. That's the rub isn't it? We have replaced cable with Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu Plus but in reality Amazon doesn't do much Netflix doesn't do. I like Amazon music but am currently doing a free trial with Apple Music on my iPhone and they have a ton (about 2 million) songs Amazon doesn't like Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Moody Blues, and ABBA. I'm seriously considering keeping Apple Music when my 3 month trial is up. Ultimately the fact I hate going shopping keeps me with them, for now. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 4:32:49 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By sharps54:
That's the rub isn't it? We have replaced cable with Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu Plus but in reality Amazon doesn't do much Netflix doesn't do. I like Amazon music but am currently doing a free trial with Apple Music on my iPhone and they have a ton (about 2 million) songs Amazon doesn't like Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Moody Blues, and ABBA. I'm seriously considering keeping Apple Music when my 3 month trial is up. Ultimately the fact I hate going shopping keeps me with them, for now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sharps54:
Originally Posted By glocke12:
as with most things, Amazon Prime started out as a great idea, and was for many years but not has turned to crap. Prime movies/TV also..At first there were many things I could find to watch for free. Now the only things worth watching are the worst of the worst in terms of B grade movies. Honestly though I'd rather wait a little longer for stuff than go out to the store and spend an afternoon shopping for this shit. That's the rub isn't it? We have replaced cable with Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu Plus but in reality Amazon doesn't do much Netflix doesn't do. I like Amazon music but am currently doing a free trial with Apple Music on my iPhone and they have a ton (about 2 million) songs Amazon doesn't like Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Moody Blues, and ABBA. I'm seriously considering keeping Apple Music when my 3 month trial is up. Ultimately the fact I hate going shopping keeps me with them, for now. Well, that's the thing. If you are just trying to get your money's worth, staying with Amazon and putting up with their more limited selection will do that. If you want to get your best music, you are going to have to subscribe to a few different services. Content providers have been splitting their content for a while in order to protect "premium" services. Meh. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:00:28 AM EST
The should re-brand it Amazon Select. or Choice. or Dry-aged. Not Prime |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:08:34 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Mdter:
This isn't a restriction on prime as most of us know it, which are items fulfilled by amazon. It sounds like a restriction on a pilot program that allowed non FBA items to be marked as "prime shipping". This is an expansion of prime by marking 3P items (probably based on your current location) as "prime" and allowing 3rd party vendors to ship regionally. Hope so, if they pull that with Prime, I'll drop it and I suspect many others will as well. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:10:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By glocke12:
as with most things, Amazon Prime started out as a great idea, and was for many years but not has turned to crap. Prime movies/TV also..At first there were many things I could find to watch for free. Now the only things worth watching are the worst of the worst in terms of B grade movies. Honestly though I'd rather wait a little longer for stuff than go out to the store and spend an afternoon shopping for this shit. Yeah, I've found the movies and TV to be worthless too. You're probably right, seems like the only thing free are the damn previews. Whatever I want to watch, you can be sure it isn't free. I rarely check anymore.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:21:12 AM EST
I like using Amazon. I will still shop around and buy from the place that is best for me.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:31:43 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By netstorm:
Prime has been getting worse over the years. Lately the stuff doesn't even ship out for a couple days, and then shows up in about 3 after the ship date. Also I believe they raised the minimum to $35 from $25 for addon items. You're complaining about 3 day shipping to chile? I'm impreessed, that's some fast service. I'VE only had one package arrive late out of probably close to a hundred, and they threw on an extra month to my prime subscription. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:36:22 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Aimless:
I once bought a bicycle that someone posted a link to here from wal mart. It was shipped to my house for free. It's some chinese pos, but how can they ship a bicycle to my house for free for $ 100? It's still in the box in the back of my garage five years later, probably rusted in to one imoveable piece Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By rkobalt:
and I'll continue to use walmart.com for a lot of the same things, take advantage of free shipping, and get it faster than Amazon. For about two weeks Walmart had 50lb bags of whole corn for $9 and free shipping. I can get it cheaper locally , but ordered 5 bags just so I didn't have to run out to the store. I'm sure shipping was more than I paid. |
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Posted: 9/1/2015 6:39:42 AM EST
I love to see people bitching about items taking 3 days to get to their house with free shipping. Don't you remember what it was like before prime? Shit would take at least a week to get here if free shipping was even an option, and usually it was like $8 for UPS ground. 2-day shipping was in the realm of $30-100 depending on the weight of the item.
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Posted: 9/1/2015 12:53:35 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
I think here in Austin, a lot of shit comes out of DFW. I think they're trying to do some same-day stuff out of Austin. I use the SHIT out of Amazon. I think in 2014 I had about 140 orders. I'd rather search for and order shit on Amazon than try to go find it locally. This is my business model. There are times where if I can't get it on Amazon, I don't order it. I have Prime and I use their Smile program to support a good charity. |
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