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Posted: 9/2/2004 10:10:15 AM EST
what does "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed." mean?


Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:11:59 AM EST
It means nothing, don't let any of that Constitution shit fool you.

Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:12:32 AM EST
Bill of Attainer - A legislative act that declares the guilt of an individual and doles out punishment without a judicial trial. The state legislatures and Congress are forbidden by Article 1, sections 9 and 10 of the Constitution to pass such acts. This is an important ingredient of the separation of powers.

Ex Post Facto Law - A law that makes criminal an act that was legal when it was committed, or that increases the penalty for a crime after it has been committed, or that changes the rules of evidence to make conviction easier; a retroactive criminal law. A Latin term meaning "after the fact." The state legislatures and Congress are forbidden to pass such laws by Article I, section 9 and 10 or the Constitution.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 1:11:18 PM EST
So does the "Ex post facto" mean that since guns are legal now, they cannot be made illegal later?
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 1:38:04 PM EST
Back when the Constitution meant something it was a way of preventing two different wrongs committed by the british prior to freedom.

It now is a joke. The Bill of Attainder is when the government passes a law that says something like "We don't like John Smith, so we are taking all his property and putting him in prison." Now they pass a bill that says "We are taking the property of everyone who looks like John Smith, is his height, and lives in his house, oh, and we are also locking him up in a treatment facility."

Some story with ex post facto.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 1:41:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By blackrifle51:
So does the "Ex post facto" mean that since guns are legal now, they cannot be made illegal later?



No. It means that if they are made illegal later, you can't be prosecuted for having owned them now.

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