[b]The ground war against CruiseAmerica![/b]

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EdAvilaSr

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Posted: 6/14/2002 8:08:17 AM EST

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Situation report: We have sent emails,and as far as I can see, other than answering with a weak "thanks for your concern.Mind your own business kind of response............ we have not made a dent. I have sent a second and stronger email to these people. If no answer is received,we should flood their 1-800 telephone lines. Send them an email AGAIN! Here is mine: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Miss Valencia: Eight days have passed since I emailed you with my concerns about an incident in which one of your customers(Cavalry Arms from Mesa,Arizona)was abandoned by your company. To this date,I have received no satisfactory explanation as to why CruiseAmerica acted the way it did,and breached their contract while the customers' motor home was broken down in the middle of Oklahoma! Your "generic" response thanking me for my concerns is NOT ACCEPTABLE! If this is representative of your customers relations policy,I will make sure not to ever do business with your company AGAIN! I shall also spread the word among my family,relatives,colleagues and patients of your company's dismal service and of the lack of action when complaints are lodged. Your company has not only discriminated against the above mentioned customer,but as their representative, YOU have disrespected potential customers by IGNORING my concerns. Sincerely, Ed Avila, M.D. Rochester,NY 14621 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here are the coordinates again! [email]info@Cruiseamerica.com[/email]

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redray

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Posted: 6/14/2002 8:16:08 AM EST

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we are headed to Florida for a Disney vacation late this summer. i [b]KNOW[/b] for a fact that CruiseAmerica is not a choice for an RV rental. i have told my friends, shooting buddies, range club members and family about them. and better yet, ive told CruiseAmerica about my feelings and what i've done about it. like i said in another post: [b]BOYCOTT ![/b]

DScott Joined Nov 2000 Posts 1665 EE Offline USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 8:51:50 AM EST Just for sh*ts and giggles, why doesn't someone call three of Cruise America's competitors, and ask them this question: Can I use your RV to transport NFA machineguns and ammunition across state lines, to a legal shooting event in another state? Just curious whether the policy would be any different...

EdAvilaSr

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Posted: 6/14/2002 10:34:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By DScott: Just for sh*ts and giggles, why doesn't someone call three of Cruise America's competitors, and ask them this question: Can I use your RV to transport NFA machineguns and ammunition across state lines, to a legal shooting event in another state? Just curious whether the policy would be any different...

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As long as it is [b] legal [/b] and they get their vehicle back in the same shape as it was rented,that is all that should matter to them.

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Citabria7GCBC

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Posted: 6/14/2002 10:45:08 AM EST

hum...i wonder if i should take this to marvin zinler at ABC 13 news. he is always looking to correct things where people have been wronged. tell you what, if you guys e-mail me the entire story i will send it to him. or you can attempt to check it out at their website [url]www.abc13.com[/url] i dont know if it has the info about it on the web site or not. but if we could get tevilvised bad PR for them, maybe they would listen to us a little closer!

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Crookshanks Joined Mar 2001 Posts 1073 EE Offline IL, USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 1:36:34 PM EST Definitely time for a follow-up email. Ed, please let me know how your patients react, when you advise them of the abuses committed by CruiseAmerica. I'd be interested to know if you get a rise out of them.

Naked80 Joined Jan 2001 Posts 1138 EE Offline MI, USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 2:12:37 PM EST Originally Posted By Crookshanks: I'd be interested to know if you get a rise out of them. View Quote That's a stiff joke.

edpmedic Joined Dec 2001 Posts 585 EE Offline NY, USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 2:13:35 PM EST I also got the same BS e-mail back.

MickeyMouse Joined Jul 2001 Posts 674 EE Offline OH, USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 2:24:56 PM EST When I e-mailed them I said if an insulting form letter was the best they could do, not to bother. They didn't. I take that to mean they are going to ignore the situation.

GodBlessTexas

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Posted: 6/14/2002 2:27:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC: hum...i wonder if i should take this to marvin zinler at ABC 13 news. he is always looking to correct things where people have been wronged. tell you what, if you guys e-mail me the entire story i will send it to him. or you can attempt to check it out at their website [url]www.abc13.com[/url] i dont know if it has the info about it on the web site or not. but if we could get tevilvised bad PR for them, maybe they would listen to us a little closer!

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Zindler won't take it. It's not a local story, plus it's gun related, which the network tries to avoid. For those that don't know, Marvin Zindler is the basis for the character in "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" that gets the place shut down, as he's the one who did get it shut down in real life. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...

SuperChicken Member Joined Sep 2001 Posts 90 EE Offline USA	Posted: 6/14/2002 3:52:48 PM EST guy next door just rented an rv from them. i told the cav arms story and he said he'd never rent form them again! score 1 for the arfkom army!

Wasted-life

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Posted: 6/14/2002 4:11:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas:

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC: hum...i wonder if i should take this to marvin zinler at ABC 13 news. he is always looking to correct things where people have been wronged. tell you what, if you guys e-mail me the entire story i will send it to him. or you can attempt to check it out at their website [url]www.abc13.com[/url] i dont know if it has the info about it on the web site or not. but if we could get tevilvised bad PR for them, maybe they would listen to us a little closer!

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Zindler won't take it. It's not a local story, plus it's gun related, which the network tries to avoid Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...

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Maybe some of the boys from Mesa, Pheonix, Casa Grande, etc. could talk to the local stations in that area?

NSFJojo Joined Feb 2001 Posts 765 EE Offline NV, USA	Posted: 6/15/2002 12:49:01 AM EST I'd like to share my love for the people who take the time to write these bastards! Onward Arfkom Army.

STISteve

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Posted: 6/15/2002 6:59:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC: hum...i wonder if i should take this to marvin zinler at ABC 13 news. he is always looking to correct things where people have been wronged. tell you what, if you guys e-mail me the entire story i will send it to him. or you can attempt to check it out at their website [url]www.abc13.com[/url] i dont know if it has the info about it on the web site or not. but if we could get tevilvised bad PR for them, maybe they would listen to us a little closer!

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Marvin is already aware of this, I work at Ch13, but, if you watch us enough, you'll see the station is very anti, because it's an O&O of Disney. I'm trying to get Wayne Dolcefino to take it on.

CavVet Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 843 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 6/15/2002 8:56:32 AM EST Originally Posted By STISteve: Marvin is already aware of this, I work at Ch13, but, if you watch us enough, you'll see the station is very anti, because it's an O&O of Disney. I'm trying to get Wayne Dolcefino to take it on. View Quote Damn, is there ANYWHERE we dont work?
	Do Toyota R&D guys in Nagakute Japan buy your products? All the government has to offer is what they take from you. NEVER underestimate the power of stupid. كافر

GI_Brat Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 583 EE Offline TX, USA	Posted: 6/15/2002 9:11:17 AM EST Originally Posted By CavVet: Damn, is there ANYWHERE we dont work? View Quote We are all over, a true network of resources. GIB [sniper]
	<IMG SRC=/images/smilies/anim_sniper2.gif border=0 align=middle> The Second Amendment...America's Original Homeland Security.(NRA-ILA) "Si vis pacem, para bellum"

M1A-A1 Joined Jan 2001 Posts 958 EE Offline AZ, USA	Posted: 6/15/2002 5:49:32 PM EST I find myself reeling with joy at the way this family of AR15.com reacts and responds to situations of this nature. We are indeed fundamentally firearms afficionado's. [b]Thanks[/b] to all for giving up their time to help us with this cause!!! A special [beer] to Ed Sr. You The Man!!!

MRW

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Posted: 6/15/2002 7:29:45 PM EST

In my experience, the most effective tool in this kind of assault is to spend money with a competitor and then mail them a copy of the reciept with the statement "I would have spent this at your business, but due to ... insert issue here ...you force me to look elsewhere. If you change your mind on this issue, I'll be happy to patronize your business again." Especially if you can do this more than once!

Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

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Posted: 6/15/2002 10:30:32 PM EST

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docmac86 Joined Mar 2001 Posts 79 EE Offline OK, USA	Posted: 6/16/2002 6:44:03 PM EST email sent! We are bad! We are nationwide! docmac86

EdAvilaSr

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Posted: 6/17/2002 4:31:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Crookshanks: Ed, please let me know how your patients react, when you advise them of the abuses committed by CruiseAmerica. I'd be interested to know if you get a rise out of them.

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He,he ,I have not done an autopsy in 20 years! Actually most of the cases I see are LIVE patients.............believe it or not! All the people who get biopsied for dx and all the women who get their yearly Pap smears eventually come to me! I could start sending a form letter with my reports instructing them to repeat the smear in 6 months and avoid doing business with CruiseAmerica [;)]

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SSD Joined Sep 2001 Posts 166 EE Offline TX, USA	Posted: 6/17/2002 5:24:44 PM EST Does CruiseAmerica have a parent company or subsidiary company? Like Avis care rental or other that could be boycotted also? SSD

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Posted: 6/18/2002 6:11:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By SSD: Does CruiseAmerica have a parent company or subsidiary company? Like Avis care rental or other that could be boycotted also? SSD

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Oh, I like the way you think, SSD... For anyone who rents an RV from another company, it might be a significant blow to mail CrassAmerica the receipt showing how much you spent after you return it, with credit card information redacted, to let them know exactly how much money their idiotic policies have cost the bottom line. Money talks, after all.

I gotta hold on to my angst. I preserve it because I need it. It keeps me sharp, on the edge, where I gotta be.

Thugbuster Joined Mar 2002 Posts 21 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 6/18/2002 9:36:37 AM EST I will be renting a motorhome this November for my annual elk hunt in Colorado. I have e-mailed Cruise America and informed them that since I will be carrying weapons with me, and because of the way they have treated my friends, I WILL NOT even consider renting from them. This includes my family trip to the Grand Canyon next summer as well.

DoomPatrol

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Posted: 6/18/2002 12:39:55 PM EST

I've got some friends that rented RV's from CruiseAmerica several times a year to go to various NASCAR races, I told them about the CavArms incident and not only have they stopped renting from them but they emailed CruiseAmerica and told them why. Only one of these guys is a shooter but the rest also thought it was a bullsh*t way to conduct business, so maybe with some emails from non-shooters also they'll start taking this incident a little more seriously. If I can I'll see about getting them to email their receipts.

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