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Posted: 4/10/2002 2:10:31 PM EDT
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Man that sucks. Did you call the Post Master General yet?
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Posted: 4/10/2002 2:16:36 PM EDT
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Thats would piss me off I would threatin to sew them I dont know if you actualy could but maybe just the threat would get them to find out who stoll them?
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Posted: 4/10/2002 2:16:45 PM EDT
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Call your PMG, but more importantly, call your police dept and local ranges to look for these rifles. Additionally, when you're on the phone with the PMG, find out all rerouting stations for your package and contact those police departments and local ranges. If it was a PO inside job, I'm betting that the thief isn't smart enough to lay low. He'll get caught with enough diligence. Why in hell did you only insure for $1000 though? I always over insure for the couple bucks extra!
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Posted: 4/10/2002 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Your hands to theirs, theirs to Sako. They have a real problem I would think. About time you "went postal"!
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Posted: 4/10/2002 4:33:47 PM EDT
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This need to be read by everyone
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Posted: 4/10/2002 4:42:43 PM EDT
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I really hate to recommend this, but a call to the local BATF field office wouldn't hurt, and let the Postmaster know that you are calling them. That should get 2 Federal Agencies involved, FBI and BATF.
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Posted: 4/10/2002 4:46:30 PM EDT
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Not that it matters much now, but I [b]always[/b] over insure [b]everything[/b]. Not only do I want to be reimbursed for the value of my items but I also want compensation for my trouble and time it takes me to get the mess straightened out.
Insurance is cheap, compared to the headache of having stuff lost. Over insure and you won't care if your stuff gets lost. |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 4:47:42 PM EDT
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Could be that an employee (or employees), at Lazzeroni Arms, received the package and swapped it out. May not have anything to do with the USPS route-- but its still a federal offense to tamper with mail. Several laws were broken here...
Good luck. I hope you have the serial numbers... |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 4:58:06 PM EDT
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Not very helpful to you at this point, But.....
ALWAYS OVERINSURE AND OVERNIGHT WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO BE WITHOUT. Insurance is cheap IMO THe SAFEST way to send USPS is registered mail, it cannot be overnighted, but their is a SOLID papertrail and chain of custody on all items shipped this way. Hope it works out well. As for the "Lazzeroni theif facctor", it is not likely IMO Good luck Biggame223 Out |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 7:15:36 PM EDT
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Best of luck getting it sorted out 1GUNRUNNER.
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Posted: 4/10/2002 7:18:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Did you call the Post Master General yet? I will in the morning. |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 7:22:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: call your police dept and local ranges to look for these rifles. Well seeing that I am one of only 2 places in the state you can buy ammo for it would be hard to hide. Why in hell did you only insure for $1000 though? I always over insure for the couple bucks extra! $1000 was for damage, outright theft that [b]had[/b] to be internal is different. |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 7:24:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: I really hate to recommend this, but a call to the local BATF field office wouldn't hurt, and let the Postmaster know that you are calling them. That should get 2 Federal Agencies involved, FBI and BATF. As an FFL I am required to by regulation. |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 7:27:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Could be that an employee (or employees), at Lazzeroni Arms, received the package and swapped it out. May not have anything to do with the USPS route I highly doubt it. Good luck. I hope you have the serial numbers... They are in the log book. |
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Posted: 4/10/2002 8:29:17 PM EDT
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Remember the big brown olympic sponsor that changed their shipping rules a while back? As I recall, you had to send guns only by paying for premium air service which coincidentally kept the package in their hands for the shortest time posible. I remember hearing something about a theft problem/ring they couldn't get a handle on.
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Posted: 4/11/2002 4:53:06 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Could be that an employee (or employees), at Lazzeroni Arms, received the package and swapped it out. May not have anything to do with the USPS route I highly doubt it. I doubt it too, but don't rule it out until you find your guns... |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 7:41:51 AM EDT
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UPS only requires handguns to go overnight. Rifles can go ground. Not sure about class 3 stuff.
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Posted: 4/11/2002 8:37:05 AM EDT
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if there ever was cause for a gun to get up and kill someone like the anti's love to say happens thos would be it.
Headline : "Would'be Crook Killed by Angry Gun" |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 12:05:16 PM EDT
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I hope you get those rifles back. I have two questions for you:
1) You have and FFL, so where is you store? (I will be taking a trip to WA soon) 2) When do you sleep, or is there a 1GUNRUNNER night shift? |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 12:09:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Bigger problem is that I under insured them for $1000 mainly for damage. I have shipped USPS for years and have never had any all out theft. Insurance is a form of gambling. USPS/UPS/Fed-X gambles you package is fine, and if it is, they win your insurance money. You gambled it wouldn't be lost, only damaged. You lost. Hopefully the money you saved under gambling on all those shipment over the years will compensate for the difference. It sucks big time. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 12:10:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not that it matters much now, but I [b]always[/b] over insure [b]everything[/b]. Not only do I want to be reimbursed for the value of my items but I also want compensation for my trouble and time it takes me to get the mess straightened out. They won't pay for your time, only your lost item. I think you'd have a hard time getting the extra insurance out of them. |
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Posted: 4/11/2002 2:30:56 PM EDT
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Insurance is a form of gambling. I disagree. If you gamble with someone, they'll typically pay-up. I used to have to deal with our UPS and USPS shipping with work. Most of the things we shipped USPS didn't have much value, so we normally didn't waste enough time to go through their BS to get paid back. Not once did UPS every pay us for lost or damaged packages. I don't understand how they can claim an entire package was lost, because it was inadequately packaged. Again, it's not a gamble. "The House" usually pays out in gambling. In this case, the house works hard to never have to honor their guarantee.z |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 3:19:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Not that it matters much now, but I [b]always[/b] over insure [b]everything[/b]. Not only do I want to be reimbursed for the value of my items but I also want compensation for my trouble and time it takes me to get the mess straightened out. They won't pay for your time, only your lost item. I think you'd have a hard time getting the extra insurance out of them. Yes they will pay for my time, they just won't know it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 3:22:04 AM EDT
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Why did you send them back?
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:21:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: They won't pay for your time, only your lost item. I think you'd have a hard time getting the extra insurance out of them. Sure they will. I recently shipped out an upper which sold for 600 and insured it for 750. It only cost a few dollars or more. Its worth it IMHO. |
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Posted: 4/12/2002 5:30:00 AM EDT
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If you hadn't transferred them to yourself yet, then you would many laws broken in Federal and state levels. ATF loves for you to keep the guns assigned to the business for just this situation. They have the power to go after the thief now. Hope they find them.
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