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Posted: 5/7/2002 10:56:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2002 10:59:28 AM EDT by texastactical]
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Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:04:02 AM EDT
With a pump, you have more versatility when it comes down to non-lethal and some tac-loads. However, if you have no plan on using those, then it's not an issue. Although pump actions probably have a better record for reliability.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:06:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:13:15 AM EDT
Most Pumps are cheap, reliable with all loads including the very light ones, and alive with recoil especially those 3" Mag slugs. Autos are mostly expensive, reliable with most loads but have issues sometimes with those light loads, and you can fire off alot of rounds with little recoil including those 3" Mag slugs. I own a M1 Super 90.... and have to say.. I can't get all that excited about pumps. But I do like that new Nova.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:19:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2002 11:24:25 AM EDT by AR_Rifle]
Semi Auto with built in tac light. Benelli M1 S90 Pre ban Tactical high cap with pistol grip. Edited to add in: With Ghost ring sight.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:22:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:26:48 AM EDT
Benelli M3 Have your cake and eat it to.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:34:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2002 11:36:32 AM EDT by bcr308]
I have an Ithaca 37 M&P model that holds eight rounds and for a pump it is really fast with the slam-fire feature.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:38:12 AM EDT
Since we're on the subject of shotguns, go to this thread[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=114939[/url], and add your opinion. I'd like to know what others think.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:39:07 AM EDT
Since we're on the subject of shotguns, go to this thread concerning the [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=114939]Winchester X2 Practical[/url], and add your opinion. I'd like to know what others think.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:39:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 12:19:49 PM EDT
I prefer the dependability of the pump over the low recoil of the auto. With an 870, I never forget to pump.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 12:24:16 PM EDT
Prefer semis myself. All bow down to Signore Benelli! [img]http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Usersmilies/Rafael/03/OLA.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 12:39:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2002 12:42:03 PM EDT by Waverunner]
I also chose the semi shotgun for the simplicity of pulling the trigger. My pick? A [b][green]Wilson Combat Scattergun Technologies K9[/b][/green]. My only modification to this OD Green Monster is the addition of an M3 Tactical Illuminator. The only problem is I have to use full power loads to cycle the gas system, all those cool specialty rounds are out. [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FWCombarK9Left%2Ejpg[/img] [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FK9LeftSide%2Ejpg[/img] [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FWCombatK9%2Ejpg[/img] I won a [b][blue]Winchester 1300 Defender[/b][/blue] from AR15.com's raffle a couple of months ago. I added a Knoxx(Hogue) recoil absorbing stockset, had the 18" barrel modified by VangComp, and added a green fiberoptic frontsight...100% BRAND NEW! Maybe have Lauer Custom Weaponry do a nice camo job on it? Haven't had the time to get out and shoot it. Maybe for sale? Anyone interested? [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FW1300%2Ejpg[/img] [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FW13002%2Ejpg[/img] Close up of the VangComp Porting Job: [img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waverunner%2FWbarrel3%2Ejpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:07:00 PM EDT
Another vote for the Benelli M1 Super 90. I have the SureFire foreend on it, and it is my weapon of choice for home defense.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:12:48 PM EDT
My first choice is my Benelli M-1 S-90 pre ban with tritium ghost rings, surefire fore end, pistol grip, and sidesaddle. The side saddle precludes tactical loads for defense. Although, the more rounds thru it the more reliable it is getting with tac loads.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:18:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:23:03 PM EDT
I've tried Scatter Gun Tech and a lot of others, but I still grab the old High Standard Riot to throw in the truck. Cheap and works every time! Go with a pump you like.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:28:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NODDAH: Most Pumps are cheap, reliable with all loads including the very light ones, and alive with recoil especially those 3" Mag slugs. Autos are mostly expensive, reliable with most loads but have issues sometimes with those light loads, and you can fire off alot of rounds with little recoil including those 3" Mag slugs. I own a M1 Super 90.... and have to say.. I can't get all that excited about pumps. But I do like that new Nova.
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Cool another person with good taste in shotguns! I'll probably own only Benelli's my whole life.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:52:49 PM EDT
Personally, I prefer the pump gun. But then again, I've never owned an auto. I kind of want one so I can compare. [img]http://www.acmearms.com/images/shotgunstock_small.jpg[/img] maybe someone at BRC will raffle one off to me. [:)]
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 2:08:15 PM EDT
I use a handgun for defense. On the subject of shotguns though I see lots of people short shuck pumps at the range, especially under the 'stress' of clays competition. Most people would be better served with an autoloader.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 2:58:43 PM EDT
I agree with ECS. I believe the reason that the police use pump guns is because they aren't maintained that well, hence a pump is more reliable. I used a pump for competetive skeet shooting for years, but gave up because of the short stroke. Under stress you do tend to shuck it too fast and short, jamming the gun. The Bennelli will not fail you when you need it.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 3:16:29 PM EDT
Benelli M3
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Jammomatic .. I regularly shoot 3-gun. Once shot a match in Alabama and this guy runs with his M3. Switches to pump not 3 rounds or so into the stage. Comes back to the waiting area after his run and proceeds to say: "That gun is great, I can't count the times switching to pump has saved a run." hmmm... Personally I run an M1S90, 21" Vent Rib, Straight Stock and 9 rnd tube - at home for defense or competition. As far as maintenance - I rarely clean the Benelli and it has yet to let me down in 6 years. Ryan
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 5:39:35 PM EDT
i really need to convince my friend to sell me his browing auto 5. only semi ive used but it ate everything from birdshot to 00 buck
Link Posted: 5/8/2002 5:32:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/8/2002 10:02:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/8/2002 10:09:19 AM EDT by Yojimbo]
I'll second the Benelli M3. Pump or semi-auto and handles the 3" shells too. With 8 in the pipe, 1 in the chamber, six shot side saddle and 55 round bandoleer she packs a lot fire power. Here's mine. [img]http://a3.cpimg.com/image/37/12/8619063-4000-02000180-.jpg[/img] [img]http://a4.cpimg.com/image/2E/12/8619054-9e9d-02000180-.jpg[/img]
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