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Posted: 9/12/2002 8:53:56 AM EDT
It goes without saying that the one year anniversary of 9/11/01 was a very hard day for the majority of us. I spent mine in my own quiet way wishing we never ever have to experience that again. Rage, sorrow, pain, shock, I felt it all over again.
I was at work this morning, doing the NYPD Presidential Visit Detail near the United Nations in Manhattan. At approx. 4am this man approaches me and thanks me for doing the job that I do. He's in a white tank top with a small picture with some writing I pay no attention to, jogging shorts and jogging shoes. He tells me he going for a quick stroll around NYC. This man returns at approx. 5:30am his tank top all sweaty. I take a closer look at his shirt... What followed absolutely broke my heart: I ask, "Sir did you know the person printed on your shirt?" He say's, "Yes, that's my daughter [b]Lisa Frost[/b] she was a passenger on the United Airlines Flight that crashed into the second WTC tower..." [img]http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2001-10/855416.jpg[/img] I stand there, tears starting to flow. I should have properly saluted the father at full attention but instead I cried in front of him. He told me that the Memorial at Ground Zero was wonderful and that he just got great news from the NYC Coroner's Office, they just positively identified 3 [b]parts[/b] of Lisa via DNA that night. He was thrilled to have [b]something[/b] of her to "bring home". He contined to talk about Lisa's promising future...just graduated from college in 4 years with a double major, top of her class, jobs lined up for her. All cut short by these terrorists. I just stand there crying. He hands me a button of her picture which I'm looking at now as I type this. "In Loving Memory, 12/21/78 - 9/11/01, Lisa Frost". He thanks me again and leaves. Lisa went back to California this morning... More about Lisa Frost:[url]http://cf1.newsday.infi.net/911/victimsearchframe.cfm?id=324[/url] [usa] |
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Hang in there Wave...
It seems all I can muster anymore is a being quietly furious Aviator |
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Damnit! Here I am tearing up again. I'm tired of it! I want to fvck something up!
Wave, I would have reacted the same way. At least you allowed him to share his love for his girl. Can't type more.... |
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Thanks for passing that on, Wave, and for flying the flag for all of us.
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Quoted: Damnit! Here I am tearing up again. I'm tired of it! I want to fvck something up! View Quote A quiet, rage-filled "ditto"... |
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Quoted: Damnit! Here I am tearing up again. I'm tired of it! I want to fvck something up! Wave, I would have reacted the same way. At least you allowed him to share his love for his girl. Can't type more.... View Quote Me too. Damn, Ray. |
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[img]http://www.bu.edu/remember/graphics/victims/frost.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2001/09-21/photos/frost.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bu.edu/phpbin/remember/results.php?name=Lisa+Frost[/url] |
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Hang in there Wave. It was a tragic event, but was made much less tragic by the heroic actions of the brave, disciplined, and professional individuals like yourself.
As bad as it was, you and all the others who were there to respond made sure that it was not as bad as it could have been. Each one of you played an important part, no matter how small you feel your actions impacted the events as a whole I can assure you that your presence there and heroic actions made a difference. And making a positive difference is what it is all about. Thank you and and all those who were there with you, the entire nation owes you more than we can ever repay, and we admire and respect you more than we can ever hope to put in words. |
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She was a year younger than me? I just hope I don't find out who I saw that day. It'd kill me.
Its horrible that such a promising life was extinguished. [:(] |
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A quiet, rage-filled "ditto"... View Quote I hear ya man. We were left here to be strong and continue the fight. Don't let the motherfvckers get you down!!!! |
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Wave hang in there. I was lucky enough to be RDO yesterday. Watching the memorial services and attending a few vigils, brought back not only that horrifc day but the months following 911 the long hours the crap posts the digging at Ground Zero...... But I think the feeling of waiting for the other shoe to drop is what had us all tense. After yesterday I still feel like I wont feel right until they do something else here. It may sound strange but Im ready now,Im prepared. Lastyear I was sitting in my living room getting ready before going in for a tour.
I have spoke to others in our position and they all share the same feeling. Wave if you ever want to talk E mail me. You know what the Dept offers (Im leery myself but I heard the COPE program is good) dont let it get too bad you know what I mean. We have been to enough funerals in the last year and we will be attending more because of the wounds that occured on 911 that we cant see. Hang in there brother. BE SAFE! |
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Thanks for being there and sharing with us
Feelins suck sometimes. [usa] |
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Ray, hang in there.
Everyone, here is a copy of a speech that I was asked to give yesterday morning and last night. I was asked how hard it was, it was the toughest one. I told them I had help, a friend named Ray (Wave). Ray told me to post it, I did not know if it was too private. Good evening everyone, it is an honor to talk to you today and be at this event. My name is Officer Art McFadden, and I am with the Franklin Police Department. I believe one of the reasons I was asked to speak to you today was because of where I am from. I was born in New York City, and raised close by in New Jersey, about 900 miles from here. My family still lives there, along with many of my friends. My father works in New York City, near what we now call Ground Zero and he witnessed the attack on Sept. 11th, 2001 when two planes flew into the World Trade Center Twin Towers. I personally spent the day trying to track down my father and the rest of my family while I was working. Thankfully, they were all ok. Last week my wife and I went to New York and saw a very special friend, of mine, Ray. He too, is a Police Officer, just like me, but he works for a very famous Police Department, the NYPD. He took us to Ground Zero and he told us about the events that day, and how they have changed his life and his fellow Officers lives. He told us about the choking dust that he kept swallowing while trying to find people who needed help, and the long hours that he worked. Sleep was replaced with the drive to find victims. Many lives were lost one year ago when we were attacked. I asked him how they were able to deal with all that was going on, and loosing his own friends. The underlying lesson he taught me was basically that they did not have a choice. We all must go on and become stronger than ever. Strength must be our companion. You see, there are very evil people that tried to change the way we live. They wanted make us afraid to go on the way we had, as Americans. These evil people wanted us to be afraid from now on. They FAILED. This country is the greatest in the world. This country has had many events that have been recorded in history and will never be forgotten and September the 11th is now one of them. People in many other countries can only dream of having the freedom we know here in America. We must remember that there are many people to thank for making our country the land of the free – the greatest country on earth. Our freedom has not come easily. We must always remember our military men and women who have fought and continue to fight for our country. They sacrifice daily. While we are eating at McDonald’s with our family, there are military men and women lying in holes in the middle of a dessert eating prepackaged food that doesn't taste very good. They're willing to give up the frills to protect our country. We must find ways to let them know how much they are appreciated. We must lend support to our president, George W. Bush, and his staff. They are making many important decisions on a daily basis that will affect our future. Being president of the United States is an extremely difficult job and President Bush needs our support in order to do his job effectively. One way we can show our support and appreciation to President Bush, our military, our police officers, our fire fighters and the many families who lost loved ones on September 11th, 2001 is to proudly fly the American Flag. Whenever we say the pledge, we need to focus on the flag and speak from the heart. On this day one year ago, our country was shaken to its very core. I gladly stand before you today after just returning from New York City and say WE ARE AMERICA, WE ARE STRONG AND WE WILL PREVAIL! Frances Scott Key was a soldier who fought for the United States Military. After a long night of battle, he was not sure who had conquered whom. Much to his delight as the sun began to rise over the horizon he witnessed a beautiful site. The American Flag continued to fly and the United States had prevailed. He was so overcome with emotion he sat down on his ship and wrote what we now know as The Star Spangled Banner – our national anthem. One year after the attacks on New York City and Washington D.C., and the tragedy in Pennsylvania, our flag continues to fly and always will. As we get older, younger people will ask us about 9/11. Children will remember what adults had told them. We will remember where we were and what we were doing and what we watched on Television. You will also remember today, and that one-year later we remember those who were lost or hurt, and the heroes that tried to help them. But the most important thing you will remember will be that children went back to school and still played outside, we all went back to work, still laughed with our friends, and the American flag still flew proudly. We went on. In the future, we will continue to observe Patriot Day, and everything it means to each of us. Remember what it represents, freedom, and our way of life, and should not only be recognized one day a year, but each day. God bless you and God Bless America. |
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Just when I think that I can't cry any more about this whole thing...
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That really sucks.
Hang in there Brother...you and your NYPD and FDNY brothers are doing a great job. If its any consolation, our armed forces are taking our just revenge. We will win and those rat bastards are going to be exterminated. Stay strong, stay alert and watch your six. |
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Here I am, crying again. This is why we love you, Ray. I'm proud to call you my brother.
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Ray,
You me and Marc should get together sometime soon and hash this stuff out. I didn't realize what talking to fellow "survivors" could do for me until last night talking to the other photographers. Lets plan something soon. Greg |
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I cried last night watching the colors go up to half mast - and stop there.
I cried last night, as 2 aircraft from my hometown airport - a Stearman and a French V-tail jet - executed a missing man. I have never heard a more beautiful mixture of sounds - a huge, old radial roaring with power, and those old jet engines that seem to have a low growling whine to them. I stop now, as I type, and remember how PROUD I was to know the old men piloting those aircraft are Americans. The other two aircraft apparently had to return to base. I shook with rage as people around me laughed and chatted and had a good time prior to the service. The flagwavers do not have any idea. None. |
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Yesterday, coming to work, I end up driving through one of the main entrances to two of the buildings at Dell's main campus. On the right are the flags of each of the armed services, and on the left a white flag with the Dell logo, the Texas State Flag, and the US flag. There were people out there, and some of the execs were going one by one. All the flags were raised to full mast, then one by one, starting with the Services flags, they were lowered to half mast, one by one, ending with the US flag.
Last night, I flipped channels and watched a few of the stories... watched the film and saw the pictures of the towers... when they were hit... and when they fell. Being so far away, and never having ever been to NYC, it still felt surreal, but I knew it was all real. Everything I was seeing really HAPPENED. All I can say is, a lot of tears were shed last night, and a year before. Wave, all my prayers and thanks are with you and your bretheren in the FDNY. I saw the videos and pictures of them running into the face of danger, with complete disregard for their own lives, to attempt to save the lives of others. 'Heroes' is the only word to describe them. 'Americans' is another word that fits them and our other countrymen that were there. I felt that quiet, rage-filled sorrow, and I feel it still.... M@ Austin, TX |
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Hi Ray
Thank you for the patch you sent me. You make us proud! I am a Search and Rescue worker from the West Coast...we wanted to come and help but did not get authorization. I spoke with you when you had that cell phone. There is no way I can even imagine what it must have been like there. Just reading your post made my eyes moist. Hang in there! You guys all made a difference and showed the world the strength and resolve of our great Nation! I salute all of you. Mark |
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That was a helluva post, Wave. Let me know if I can be of help. You are in my thoughts.
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Just when I thought I was done shedding tears.... I happened upon this post. Hang in there Ray! |
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As I just finished grilling up dinner last night around 7:30 I heard a familiar rumble, that of 5 Air Force Fighters flying over head, escorting Air Force 1.
I just stopped for a few minutes and my memories from that day began to reappear. Me coming back from class and learning what had just happened. Calling my aunt who works a few blocks from there right out side of battery park and not being able to get in touch with her for a few hours, or failing to get in contact with my dad in upper manhattan really putting me over the edge. Eventually finding out a few friends of the family, a buddy of mine from high school's brother and clients of my father had been murdered tore me up inside. Even though I was away at school when all this happened my family, and life back home was smack in the middle. It was a terrible day for all of us and we can only hope that the dead will be avenged. Until that happens none of us will be complete. |
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Wave, you are not the only one......We too have tears.
Thank you. |
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Just thought I'd bump this back to the top in case anyone missed it.
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BUMP--->
I'll bet that the father was happy to meet with you and share his story. It was probably very cathartic for him. Stay Strong and ---> NEVER FORGIVE! |
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Excellent post, I feel you Ray. It is hard to deal with this subject and not shed a tear, especially what happened to you this morning. I only read it and shed tears, it must have been nearly impossible to stand there in person. Hats off to you sir.
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Of all the police officers there today..Lisa Frost's father met one of the best..one of ours. Take care brother.
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Quoted: I stand there, tears starting to flow. View Quote Says it all, right there.... The more individual stories I'm exposed to, the more I understand the # of people impacted by this. Lots of small stories, lots of individual acts of humanity and heroism that those of us who weren't there to see won't ever really understand. I know that, yesterday, there were MANY people in NY who probably had a similar experience/trigger. Take care Wave, and let 'em flow.... |
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Wave,
Hang in there brother. Time will heal the pain. You are a good man. And a good LEO! I was proud to get to speak with you while is was in NYC. If you ever make your way south just remember you have a brother in arms down here. mike |
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Wave, my daughter is one year younger than Lisa. I can tell you that had it been MY daughter, your actions would have pleased me.
Just keep doing the good job; we appreciate it. |
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Ray, guys like you, Marc, Ronin45, balzac and the others gave me renewed faith in America a year ago, and still do now. Hang in there brother!
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Sometimes I know I shouldn't read these threads but do it anyway....
I often want to cry when I think about it nad I also sometimes just want to destroy the POS who do these thing. |
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Ray,
I can't imagine how tough it must have been to be NYPD over the last few days. You all, along with FDNY, have been through more than anyone should ever have to experience. I'm grateful that you can come here and share what's happening, because in addition to (hopefully) making you feel better, it helps all of us better understand the continuing impact of 9/11. Take care, brother. You've got 24,000+ friends behind you. |
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Thanks Ray, I haven't called you because I figured you were working a lot this week. It was a VERY draining day yesterday. I took a walk to ground zero and retraced my steps through the city that I took on 9/11/01. I also passed a few firehouses. Let me tell you guys, you can not walk past a firehouse downtown without getting a sick feeling in your gut. There are pictures of all the men they lost, patches, flowers and candles. Yesterday the wives, all dressed in black, and families were at the firehouses. A friend of mine is a fireman that was out on disability on 9/11/01. He lost a few friends from his firehouse. One of the fireman that was killed his wife ALSO died in one of the towers. Their children were at the firehouse, two beautiful kids that lost their parents on that day. The firemen that survived carry a lot of undeserved guilt. I am very, very emotionally drained. TTYL
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Yesterday, I led my normal life, did the things I normally do. When I got home, I went to a very private place and shed more tears than I have shed in a long time.
I think I'll go to that private place again. :( Thanks Wave. That's the most touching thing I've ever read here. Seriously. Stay strong and God bless. -T. |
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Thanks for bumpin' the thread, Wave.
I am glad I did not miss it. I too have found myself more emotional during this anniversary. Heh, even my wife mentioned it earlier tonight that she has noticed it. Last year I was shocked and angry. I am not shocked anymore but still have the anger whenever I start thinking of the senseless waste. I think the amount of anger I had kept the grief at bay when it all first happened. A year later my anger has receded enough to allow me to grieve. I guess that is what it is. I never have been a emotional person and definately not a fan of drama. But I find myself at awe at the bravery and courage many people displayed on that day. Many gave everything willingly that day. I am proud to call myself an American. God bless all those sacraficed their all for others and God bless those who had no choice at all. And God bless you all. Sincerely, Tim "Our enemies do not have to like us, but they must fear us." |
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I'll never forget it. Especially the reactions from the kids on the bus I drive.....
I saw the CBS tape last night. It brought back the feelings.... "Never forget 9/11" [USA] |
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