
Posted: 7/29/2001 3:41:40 PM EDT
ok. are teh taurus PT92s junk, or a good deal. are the real deal by beretta worth the extra cost, ( less than a hundred $s i think) for that ammount of money i would about say the hell with a copy, i want teh beretta. but if the taurus is just as good, i might reconsider. anyone own a taurus PT92
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mattsd: anyone own a taurus PT92 View Quote |
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I would go with the Beretta, I have a 92fs and it looks and functions flawlessly.[:D]
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Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with?...... That's me
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I own a stainless Taurus PT99AF,have fired some 5000 rds thru it without a single malfunction.Dont know how much more a Berreta runs,but PRE BAN MAGS ARE much cheaper for the Taurus.That should be a major consideration.
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I own a PT99. I've had it for around 5 years. I haven't put thousands of rounds through it but every one I have has gone bang. It is one of the nicest feeling handguns I've ever held. It fits like a glove and is very pointable. I really like the fact the safety is on the frame and not the slide. It is much easier to reach with my thumb. As I said my Taurus has never jammed,is very accurate and I wouldn't think twice about using it as a carry gun.
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Originally Posted By Jim-Scoutten:
There's no way to clean up GD. Posted By Bed_Head: And yes, all women know the power of the boobies.... and the pie too. |
Striker,I missed that point.The safety on the Taurus is superior.
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Not superior..just more convenient for me. I have big hands but I found the safety on the Beretta pistols hard to operate. You can't go wrong with either but the extra $100 for the Beretta is paying for the name on the slide IMHO.
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Originally Posted By Jim-Scoutten:
There's no way to clean up GD. Posted By Bed_Head: And yes, all women know the power of the boobies.... and the pie too. |
The Taurus is made on Beretta machinery setup to fullfill a Brazilian contract. The PT99's are less of a copy and more of a clone.
I don't own either pistol but I have sold several of each. If I were to buy a full size 9mm I would go with the Taurus. Mostly because I am partial to the frame mounted saftey.
You will not be disappointed in either pistol. However, you can buy several boxes of ammo with the money you save buying the Taurus.
Choose the pistol on the basis of the safety's location. That really is the only difference.
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Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein Drugs kicked in now, need sleep, radiation tastes funny at 7 am every day... a bit like victory. - Ginger |
I never owned a Taurus or a Beretta, I have a Jeep Cherokee though. [:D]
Seriously, my first handgun I bought and still have is a Beretta 92FS 9mm. I probably put around 3000 rounds through it without a malfunction yet.
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Originally Posted By araddict:
,but PRE BAN MAGS ARE much cheaper for the Taurus.That should be a major consideration. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mattsd:
Originally Posted By araddict:
,but PRE BAN MAGS ARE much cheaper for the Taurus.That should be a major consideration. View Quote View Quote |
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Think of a weapon as an investment, a Beretta will hold its value MUCH longer than a Taurus. I would never buy a copy when I could have the original for $100 bucks more.
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I doubt that you will find the Beretta within a hundred bucks of the Taurus. More like $200. That said I would spend the extra 100 if needed to get a Taurus over the Beretta. Yes, you read that right. The Taurus has the frame mounted safety and can be carried cocked and locked. I've got the Beretta and the wife has the Taurus. Try as I might she will not trade with me.
BTW, mags will not interchnage without some mods. The release notch is not in the same location.
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Had a Taurus 92 that I carried for several years. Easily put a couple thousand rounds through it and never a hitch (except when I put a scope mount on it, don't bother). The gun was accurate. Sold it and miss it terribly. But I did go ahead and get the Beretta 92 last weekend to make up for it. Have shot Beretta's before and they are sweet weapons. I do think I like the safety on the Taurus better, but the Beretta seems to be slightly better machined on the inside and the action is soooooo smooooooth....
Good luck!
[8D]
WWoodworth
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger:
I doubt that you will find the Beretta within a hundred bucks of the Taurus. More like $200. View Quote |
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I have had a Taurus PT99 for almost 10 years and love the gun, and I have never had to use the lifetime warranty 1 time. I like the safety on the Taurus, but I think that the Beretta has a little better trigger pull in double action. I would recommend the Taurus just because of the warranty and the lower cost.
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other than the position of the decocker. there is no difference. no difference in accuracy, reliability, or detail.
i've owned both. the berreta's have a better finish, but you should buy your taurus stainless anyway.
9'd lib
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I have a Beretta 92 and I hate to admit it, but it's as accurate and reliable as my Kimber which costs 3 times as much. Taurus is supposed to be a good product too though.
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Great info on this thread.
The mag release notch [i]is[/i] different in size, with the Beretta notch being a tad tighter in the top to bottom dimension. The Taurus notch is a bit looser and the mag will "rattle" when placed in a Beretta.
Also, there is a slight dimensional difference in the 9mm/.40 feed lips, so mix and match at your peril. Maybe they will work, maybe they won't.
The Beretta has tactile firing pin block that rises from the top of the slide when the trigger is pulled back, loaded gun or not, and safety on or not.
I also think the use of the word "safety" is a misnomer on any gun. It is more of a fire control system. The safety is in your head, period.
If you think about the Beretta system as a light switch, then the gun is ready to fire/the lights are ON, when you flick the switch UP.
When you flick the switch DOWN, then the lights are OFF.
You must "flick the switch" to get the desired result. Simple and "safe".
The Beretta slide mounted safety is "UP/FIRE!" or "down/decock/safe".
The Taurus 3-position safety/fire control can be manipulated past the desired point to decock when you want to fire---oops. And, there is a big hole in the gun where all kinds of things can find there way into...
( I've applied the 2-position safety/fire control idea to my long guns as well; they are either ON or OFF. No middle of the road or too far one way. )
I've been ultimately satisfied with my Berettas. At one time was looking at the Taurus PT-99/AFS-D in 9mm because I liked the way the gun looked. And I had 3 17-rd. Ram-Line mags for it. I offed the mags and changed my mind on the Taurus ( in favor of a Beretta 96FSC Stainless).
I prefer the .40 caliber for my purposes.
I hope this gives you a bit more to mull over.
One last thing is to pick up each brand and listen to what your mind says when you pick them up. Try it with your eyes closed, too. Weird, maybe. Effective, definetly.
Good Luck and like my old Uncle Tony used to say: [b][blue]"Getta Beretta..."[/blue][/b]
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phở kobama
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I have put 25,000+ rounds through a Beretta 92 FS with zero problems--and barely any finish wear. Also, I am not too good about maintaining a good cleaning regimen. Can't make it malfunction.
I have an FFL and obtained a Taurus for a guy (revolver) with the lock on the hammer. It would not allow the gun to function (cock) with the lock in the "off" position. POS gun. I will not buy any firearm that contains "extra" safety features--especially from a company known in the past for poor metal work.
All that said I will not buy/use another 9 sillimeter. They just don't make a big enough hole for me. I love shooting the Beretta though. Very sweet shooter in every way.
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thanks for all the info guys, i will take it all into consideration. i will just have to fondle each
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OK, I'm sure I'm going to get flammed for suggesting outside the post, but have you considered a Browning Hi-Power?
Even though Browning discontinued all but a few models, you can find tons of used pistols in like new condition. Plus there are literally thousands of pre-ban Hi-Cap mags.
Just a thought from a Condition 1 John Browning fan. Good luck with your choice. [pistol]
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libertarian:
other than the position of the decocker. there is no difference. no difference in accuracy, reliability, or detail.
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The Taurus is made on Beretta machinery setup to fullfill a Brazilian contract. The PT99's are less of a copy and more of a clone.
I don't own either pistol but I have sold several of each.
You will not be disappointed in either pistol. .
..safety's location. That really is the only difference. View Quote |
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223s.: OK, I'm sure I'm going to get flammed for suggesting outside the post, but have you considered a Browning Hi-Power? View Quote |
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Beretta, Beretta, Beretta, Beretta, and I can repeat it about 1000 more times if you would like. I've owned a Taurus, I own a Beretta. The Beretta has some different design features and also locks up tighter. The Taurus is very simular in design to the Beretta but has a frame mounted safety, the Beretta has a slide mounted safety. My Beretta blows away the Taurus I had in every respect. The Taurus if thats the one you want will shoot fine for you, but the Beretta is the better gun.
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Being a cheap SOB, I picked up my 1st Taurus when they were $199 otd. They have improved quite a bit since then. Ever hear of a slide failure on one? I like them both but own a 92SF at the moment. I put away some new factory 15 rounders in case another Taurus comes my way.
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