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Posted: 1/21/2013 12:00:06 PM EDT
As one of the "Newbs" as defined in a recent Topic posted by member Conspiro-Agnew, ("Friendly PSA for new and low post count members.") I'd like to respectfully ask three questions of long time, high post count, ARFcom members.

1. Why is it automatically assumed that someone who is new to AR15.com, is new to AR-15's and firearms?

2. I have owned and have shot AR's since before the first ban. Does that mean that I should not offer opinion or advice just because I have a low post count and recent join date?

3. Do you think the reason that some new members enthusiastically start out posting, and then find themselves leaving ARFcom, has anything to do with the type of arrogance contained in parts of Conspiro-Agnew's Topic, and how those new members are treated?

I like this website, and can see myself participating here for a long time. Granted, there will be procedural mistakes made by new members. (It's not the end of the world if someone posts in the wrong place. Just correct the person and move on.)

Also, it's clear that you'd better have some thick skin on this website, and you'd better be able to defend yourself and your viewpoints. I have no problems with either - in fact I enjoy the banter. But if new members are treated with the same type of disdain I've seen displayed since my joining, you'll eventually be left with the same group, of the same people, saying the same things.

None of us have all the answers. So don't close your mind to learning new things from new people.

Respectfully,
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:01:39 PM EDT
You like gladiator movies?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:02:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:02:14 PM EDT
In before the butthurt
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:02:40 PM EDT
Well said Noob.

Welcome. 98% of us are ok. The other 2% are dicks.

Be ok.

Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:02:46 PM EDT
The exact quote is: "Billy, do you like movies about Gladiators?"
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:03:06 PM EDT
Have you ever seen a grown man nekkid?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:03:37 PM EDT
I don't look at post dates unless it's something wicked stupid.

Frankly I don't even look at poster names as much as the avatars.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:04:08 PM EDT
It's that way on most forums.


it's clear that you'd better have some thick skin on this website


ARF is very very tame compared to a lot of forums out there.

Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:04:15 PM EDT
I can see that. With member Douche being among the 2%. Rough day in your Mom's basement, is it Douchie??
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:04:31 PM EDT
Nobody has been rude to me.






Yet...
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:04:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:05:07 PM EDT
So, the interwebz really is serious binness.

I thought that was just an urban legend.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:05:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChrisLRS:
Nobody has been rude to me.

Yet...

because you're ... familiar
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:05:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ogive:
As one of the "Newbs" as defined in a recent Topic posted by member Conspiro-Agnew, ("Friendly PSA for new and low post count members.") I'd like to respectfully ask three questions of long time, high post count, ARFcom members.

1. Why is it automatically assumed that someone who is new to AR15.com, is new to AR-15's and firearms?

2. I have owned and have shot AR's since before the first ban. Does that mean that I should not offer opinion or advice just because I have a low post count and recent join date?

3. Do you think the reason that some new members enthusiastically start out posting, and then find themselves leaving ARFcom, has anything to do with the type of arrogance contained in parts of Conspiro-Agnew's Topic, and how those new members are treated?

I like this website, and can see myself participating here for a long time. Granted, there will be procedural mistakes made by new members. (It's not the end of the world if someone posts in the wrong place. Just correct the person and move on.)

Also, it's clear that you'd better have some thick skin on this website, and you'd better be able to defend yourself and your viewpoints. I have no problems with either - in fact I enjoy the banter. But if new members are treated with the same type of disdain I've seen displayed since my joining, you'll eventually be left with the same group, of the same people, saying the same things.

None of us have all the answers. So don't close your mind to learning new things from new people.

Respectfully,



First off, don't expect much better than this from the General Discussion forum. It is almost a free-for-all, but occasionally does get moments of greatness.

The team forum is generally much better than GD, but you have to be a paid member to enter.

The technical forums are the best, the mod's don't put up with antics.





Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:06:03 PM EDT
Give it time.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:06:27 PM EDT
To many here, this is their 15 minutes of fame.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:07:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ChrisLRS:
Nobody has been rude to me.






Yet...


You're being groomed. You like camping?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:07:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:07:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chokey:

Originally Posted By ChrisLRS:
Nobody has been rude to me.






Yet...

because you're ... familiar


How do you mean?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:07:31 PM EDT
Thanks NYC M-4
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:09:04 PM EDT
Welcome to every large and popular forum...ever.

If you're here for technical discussions and wish to share your knowledge of AR-15's with others, the technical forums on the site are probably your best bet. The rules are much stricter, they're moderated more aggressively, etc. The rules are much more relaxed in General Discussion, though (most) any topic is permissible to post here, even if it's better suited to one of the other sub-forums.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:09:10 PM EDT
In before the "dikfer".
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:09:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:09:51 PM EDT
GD is a cesspool, get ready to be raped a few times
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:10:16 PM EDT
You have to have thick skin and just roll with the punches in GD. The tech forums are much more forgiving.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:10:59 PM EDT
Am I a noob?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:12:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MurdocUSA:
Am I a noob?


Yes.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:12:31 PM EDT
i joined like 2 weeks before the sandy hook bullshit, so i got a glimpse of the crazy that is gd. (pre everyone loosing their minds and shit) so i've just decided to wait till all the asshatery simmer down before i really dive in and become a part of the community.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:12:37 PM EDT
Ogive,


This place actually isn't that bad, there is a forum I post on that you wear an FNG moniker under your name until they decide they like you.



The big thing on ARF is that we are used to getting waves of new members when stupid shit happens in the media, and when school lets out for the summer.

Join Date and post count are important for rooting out trolls. And we will assume you are a stupid fucking troll until you prove other wise. It isn't about post numbers, it is about other members getting to know you.


Think of this place like highschool, you are the new kid, so you fucking suck and we hate you. You will be picked on until some one decides they like you, and then you will get picked on less.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:12:44 PM EDT
Looks like the best thing is to become a paid member and access the tech forums. But I have pretty thick skin, so I generally don't mind the banter I've seen so far.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:13:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By MurdocUSA:
Am I a noob?


Yes.



Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:14:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ogive:
As one of the "Newbs" as defined in a recent Topic posted by member Conspiro-Agnew, ("Friendly PSA for new and low post count members.") I'd like to respectfully ask three questions of long time, high post count, ARFcom members.

1. Why is it automatically assumed that someone who is new to AR15.com, is new to AR-15's and firearms?

2. I have owned and have shot AR's since before the first ban. Does that mean that I should not offer opinion or advice just because I have a low post count and recent join date?

3. Do you think the reason that some new members enthusiastically start out posting, and then find themselves leaving ARFcom, has anything to do with the type of arrogance contained in parts of Conspiro-Agnew's Topic, and how those new members are treated?

I like this website, and can see myself participating here for a long time. Granted, there will be procedural mistakes made by new members. (It's not the end of the world if someone posts in the wrong place. Just correct the person and move on.)

Also, it's clear that you'd better have some thick skin on this website, and you'd better be able to defend yourself and your viewpoints. I have no problems with either - in fact I enjoy the banter. But if new members are treated with the same type of disdain I've seen displayed since my joining, you'll eventually be left with the same group, of the same people, saying the same things.

None of us have all the answers. So don't close your mind to learning new things from new people.

Respectfully,


Keep in mind that the ones spouting this crap are usually kids playing with daddy's guns..because they're not old enough to own their own.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:15:00 PM EDT
Ehh screw em, don't let it bother you.

Oh and welcome I guess. I didn't notice your date, or post count so if you've already been welcomed ignore.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:15:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I don't look at post dates unless it's something wicked stupid.

Frankly I don't even look at poster names as much as the avatars.


Same here.

The only time I dog pile noobs is if they are acting like asses, or are clearly trolling.

Never understood the whole "Maul the new guy that asks a legitimate question" types here.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:15:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:15:19 PM EDT
Thanks "I Am Dan". That's good advice. I have no problem punching back.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:17:24 PM EDT
Thanks krpind and shooter 62.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:17:32 PM EDT
I'm amazed nobody picked the username Ogive before now.

Nicely done.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:19:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ogive:
Looks like the best thing is to become a paid member and access the tech forums. But I have pretty thick skin, so I generally don't mind the banter I've seen so far.

You don't need to be a paid member to participate in the tech forums - just the "Team Members Only" forum.

Spend some time perusing the tech forums. You'll notice a big difference in the tone of the posts.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:19:34 PM EDT
Thanks Ohio Bill. I was surprised it was available. Especially with all the reloaders on here.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:20:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:20:30 PM EDT
Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:21:07 PM EDT
Welcome OP.

Keep in mind that there were a ton of new guys joining up here in the last month bringing all kinds of shenanigans with them and causing hate and discontent with troll questions and general stupidity.

Stick with it. There are a lot of great folks on here and a wealth of info in the tech forums. The EE kicks ass and will once again once everyone stops losing their minds of all of the craziness.


Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:21:10 PM EDT
Thanks subnet. I saw you on late last night - recognized the Avatar. Your wife, girlfriend, daughter, granddaughter. maybe?
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:22:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ogive:
Thanks subnet. I saw you on late last night - recognized the Avatar. Your wife, girlfriend, daughter, granddaughter. maybe?


Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:23:23 PM EDT
Welcome to Arfcom......

Where we eat our young.

a-bare
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:24:00 PM EDT
Show me your tits.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:25:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ogive:
Thanks subnet. I saw you on late last night - recognized the Avatar. Your wife, girlfriend, daughter, granddaughter. maybe?

Porn star Raven Riley. Happy Googling.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:25:26 PM EDT
I like turtles.
Link Posted: 1/21/2013 12:25:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChrisLRS:
Nobody has been rude to me.

Yet...

the day is young
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